Gigabyte and Biostar let out the J1800N board: celeron vs 4930x hmm

[brownninja97]

Im surprised there is no ROG board for this platform yet.

Firstly these boards are very similar but ill list the few differences that they actually have

 

Firstly they both feature J1800 celorons, gigabyte has its clocked at 2.53ghz(always, turbo boost is locked on) while biostar has its clocked at 2.4ghz(turbo boost kicks it up to 2.5ghz). 

 

The rear IO is identical on both boards.

 

Both boards have a pci 2.0 1x slot for your gtx titans(if you can find some sort of adapter)

 

Both have 2 sata 2.0 3gbs ports

 

The gigabyte board has a msata slot but the biostar forces you to use sata or usb.

 

Gigabyte has 2 SO-Dimm slots for ram(laptop sized) but the biostar has 1.

 

Gigabyte board has 2 headers for fans, biostar has 1(was about to say for cpu fan but well its passive).

 

Gigabyte uses japanese caps, biostar uses a mixture of high quality and standard quality(not like you would push it)

 

I have no idea where the hell the north and southbridge are.

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/197525/gigabyte-outs-the-j1800n-d2h-mini-itx-motherboard.html

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/197524/biostar-rolls-out-the-j1800nh-mini-itx-motherboard.html

 

pick your poison or stick with your 4930x

[qwertywarrior]

great for a nas/HTPC and streamer

there are also quad core versions not sure when they are coming though

[brownninja97]

great for a nas/HTPC and streamer

there are also quad core versions not sure when they are coming though

Hopefully biostar dont use that pathetic heatsink for their quadcore.

[AlwaysFSX]

Both boards have a pci 2.0 1x slot for your gtx titans(if you can find some sort of adapter)

[SAV1OUR]

its because these mobos uses a limited so theres almost no point  

[LinusTech]

This would be fantastic for a Steam Machine.

[brownninja97]

http://om/watch?v=fZed5r9tXHQ

Yeah i saw that i while back but honestly who the hell wants to do that, its quite risky and many people either lack the tools or the precision.

[brownninja97]

This would be fantastic for a Steam Machine.

Do they have good integrated graphics, unless its hd 4600 or 5200 iris pro then i dont see it being too good for a steam machine

[Panda of the Shadow]

I acctually like the look of the Gigabyte one but what kills this even for a little 500$ htpc build is 1. The lack of Sata 3. 2. Pcie 2 1x... (Like a little passive R7 250 would be nice for that kind of a build.)

[Panda of the Shadow]

Do they have good integrated graphics, unless its hd 4600 or 5200 iris pro then i dont see it being too good for a steam machine

1. Add a gpu. 2. Iris Pro is coming with the Broadwell i7... 

[brownninja97]

I acctually like the look of the Gigabyte one but what kills this even for a little 500$ htpc build is 1. The lack of Sata 3. 2. Pcie 2 1x... (Like a little passive R7 250 would be nice for that kind of a build.)

Well you can grab a 7750 for around £50 or $60(fair trade £1=$0.61) which is pretty awesome at gaming.

[Panda of the Shadow]

This would be fantastic for a Steam Machine.

Meh Sata 2... 

[brownninja97]

1. Add a gpu. 2. Iris Pro is coming with the Broadwell i7... 

iris pro is in some cpu already, chck out some nucs and apple products.

[Panda of the Shadow]

Well you can grab a 7750 for around £50 or $60(fair trade £1=$0.61) which is pretty awesome at gaming.

I already have a htpc/steambox (even tho it isn't running steam os yet. sutch beta) which is going to beat most gaming pc's. But what i meant is that i don't think a 7750 can run with PCie 2.0 1x or can it? 

[qwertywarrior]

Do they have good integrated graphics, unless its hd 4600 or 5200 iris pro then i dont see it being too good for a steam machine

i think he meant for streaming steam games

[Panda of the Shadow]

iris pro is in some cpu already, chck out some nucs and apple products.

Yeah you won't be able to buy a CPU with iris untill the Broadwell i7 hits. 

[Panda of the Shadow]

i think he meant for streaming steam games

I don't think it's strong enough for that. 

[Panda of the Shadow]

Do they have good integrated graphics, unless its hd 4600 or 5200 iris pro then i dont see it being too good for a steam machine

they have the intel hd (without a number) which is about the same as the hd 4000. 

[qwertywarrior]

I don't think it's strong enough for that. 

its only job is to decode H264 and its more than powerful to do that

[Panda of the Shadow]

its only job is to decode H264 and its more than powerful to do that

not only that. Watch Linus's vids. It's not only decoing H264. 

[qwertywarrior]

not only that. Watch Linus's vids. It's not only decoing H264. 

i did maybe i missed something

the requirements are basically Gigabit Ethernet if you want 1080p and a GPU that decodes H264

[TopWargamer]

This would be fantastic for a Steam Machine.

But it's a Celeron...

[Derangel]

These could be useful as file servers perhaps. Toss a PCI-E RAID card into that 1x slot and connect a bunch of drives to it. Doesn't need to be fast or really do anything other than stay running. I wonder how hot they would run in a quiet/low air flow set up.

 

I have no idea where the hell the north and southbridge are.

 

Intel platforms haven't had a seperate southbridge and northbridge for a few years now. The chipset chip on the Gigabyte is at the back of the board, right next to the 24 pin and on the Biostar it is under the SATA ports.

[JAKEBAB]

im sorry but why is 4930x in this?

[Fetzie]

Meh Sata 2... 

 

SATA 2, that hardly bottlenecks current generation SSDs?

 

Stick a sound-card with an amplifier in the PCI-E slot via a riser and one of those tiny 150W PSUs and you'd have an extremely compact and totally quiet steambox that has the grunt to power an awesome sound system. Or use a capture card to use it to record and archive TV (but of course not put it online, that isn't good).