Does ryzen 5 3000's series still need bios update on some b450m motherboards?

[lilEpicNam3]

Im buying a ryzen 3600 with a b450m pro4 motherboard, but when i put my specs in pcpartpicker it showed an error which i looked into and it seems that  b450m motherboards need a bios update b4 being able to use your cpu.

Is this still a problem and if so how would i update it?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$195.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler	$74.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$79.38 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$75.00 @ Corsair
Storage	Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$52.93 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case	Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair CXM 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$89.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer XB240H ABPR 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$662.93
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$612.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-28 10:36 EDT-0400

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASRock-B450M-M-ATX-D-Sub-Retail/dp/B07FVYKFXF/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=b450m+pro+4&qid=1566980007&s=gateway&sr=8-2

Edited August 28, 2019 by lilEpicNam3
i edited my pcpartpicker to more closely resemble my setup

[Princess Luna]

Your build has a couple of issues:

 

You can find far better SSDs for that price.

 

You don't need anywhere near 750W you should focus on a higher quality 550W PSU of same pricing.

 

240hz is 100% proven gimmick and makes no sense what so ever, for that price you can pick a 1440p144hz monitor for far greater experience without mentioning the Ryzen 5 3600 while being perfectly suitable for 144fps would suffer trying to achieve 240fps.

 

Regarding you question: it's a lottery, some boards already have updated BIOS while others don't, there is no way of knowing unless specified by the vendor.

[i_build_nanosuits]

not to mention that huge ass cooler will be completely useless with a Ryzen CPU and a cheap motherboard like that...this isn't an overclocking friendly kit so why such a huge cooler...let me check some stuff out for you.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Here is a much better list...it's cheaper...you get a better motherboard, better PSU, and a MUCH nicer monitor...for less money.

Oh and IMHO this cooler is better, but that's subjective you might not want a water cooler.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($75.00 @ Corsair)
Storage: Crucial BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($267.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1084.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-28 08:12 EDT-0400

[G00fySmiley]

18 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Your build has a couple of issues:

 

You can find far better SSDs for that price.

 

You don't need anywhere near 750W you should focus on a higher quality 550W PSU of same pricing.

 

240hz is 100% proven gimmick and makes no sense what so ever, for that price you can pick a 1440p144hz monitor for far greater experience without mentioning the Ryzen 5 3600 while being perfectly suitable for 144fps would suffer trying to achieve 240fps.

 

Regarding you question: it's a lottery, some boards already have updated BIOS while others don't, there is no way of knowing unless specified by the vendor.

agree on PSU and SSD but 240hz is not a 100% a gimmick, its just really niche as to who it is for, and does not make sense for most users.

 

First off a disclaimer, I use a 1440p 144hz monitor with a IPS panel. I have used 240hz monitors but do prefer IPS and these are from what I have seen always 1080p TN panels. For my use 144hz is just fine and I enjoy the experience more in the types of games i play (mostly RPGs)

 

To the average user the better resolution on a good ips panel will likely be a better experience.Side by side image quality for games with the eye candy turned up no question mio a 1440p 144hz IPS will look better. 

 

The (imo) only reason to go with a 240hz 1080 panel over a 1440p 144hz is if you are actually competing in Shooters professionally or aspiring to do so professionally. That literally couple MS to see the opponent means you might react just a split second quicker. (admittedly a rare use case but it exists) so If the OP is building this to compete in CS:go, Apex legends, fortnite etc. I would say its worth considering (otherwise pass, just make sure your 144hz is an IPS panel).

 

You can see in an image comparison the front edge of the alien cockpit and the front and back black edge of the saucier is more defined along with less ghosting. For me enjoying games like subnautica it really does not affect me, but if I were still competing in Counterstrike it might.

 

 

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc_agon_ag251fz.htm

 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

7 minutes ago, G00fySmiley said:

The (imo) only reason to go with a 240hz 1080 panel over a 1440p 144hz is if you are actually competing in Shooters professionally or aspiring to do so professionally. That literally couple MS to see the opponent means you might react just a split second quicker. (admittedly a rare use case but it exists) so If the OP is building this to compete in CS:go, Apex legends, fortnite etc. I would say its worth considering (otherwise pass, just make sure your 144hz is an IPS panel).

Maybe...but one could also argue that a cleaner, higher resolution screen will ALSO help you spot ennemies better and faster.

If you ask me, 27'' 1080p monitor for a desktop PC is very grainy, the image is what i would call ''disgusting'' honestly...and 144hz isn't a slow monitor by any means and i would think that in most cases, including FPS games, the 1440p monitor will give you an edge because you'll be able to see further and see better in the details of your games...improving your chances of seeing the ennemy quicker and better and avoiding shooting friendly forces in the distance for example.

[G00fySmiley]

2 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Maybe...but one could also argue that a cleaner, higher resolution screen will ALSO help you spot ennemies better and faster.

If you ask me, 27'' 1080p monitor for a desktop PC is very grainy, the image is what i would call ''disgusting'' honestly...and 144hz isn't a slow monitor by any means and i would think that in most cases, including FPS games, the 1440p monitor will give you an edge because you'll be able to see further and see better in the details of your games...improving your chances of seeing the ennemy quicker and better and avoiding shooting friendly forces in the distance for example.

depends on the game engine. a wider screen may be an advantage if the game engine accomplishes displaying the extra screen real estate by unlocking more to the left and right rather than cutting from the top and bottom. 

 

likewise while some games may take that extra resolution to improve draw distance of at the edges, most competitive games handle that as to much of an advantage and so do not. IE you get better resolution and more detail, but side by side a 4k monitor and a 1080p monitor with the same aspect ration will display the same scene with the same draw distance barriers it will just look better. 

[lilEpicNam3]

3 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Your build has a couple of issues:

 

You can find far better SSDs for that price.

 

You don't need anywhere near 750W you should focus on a higher quality 550W PSU of same pricing.

 

240hz is 100% proven gimmick and makes no sense what so ever, for that price you can pick a 1440p144hz monitor for far greater experience without mentioning the Ryzen 5 3600 while being perfectly suitable for 144fps would suffer trying to achieve 240fps.

 

Regarding you question: it's a lottery, some boards already have updated BIOS while others don't, there is no way of knowing unless specified by the vendor.

these are my specs as i have them now... the only thing im replacing is the cpu mb and ram.. which i already had in the pcpartpicker list.. the power supply was a gift from my brother, and my monitor is actaully 144 hertz not 240 ... thats a mistake on my part,

and the ssd i bought along time ago and that isnt the right model i just threw one in.

[lilEpicNam3]

3 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Here is a much better list...it's cheaper...you get a better motherboard, better PSU, and a MUCH nicer monitor...for less money.

Oh and IMHO this cooler is better, but that's subjective you might not want a water cooler.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($75.00 @ Corsair)
Storage: Crucial BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($267.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1084.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-28 08:12 EDT-0400

wow thanks for the effort you put through but i already have a pc with these specs ...  srry. 

im only upgrading my cpu, mb, and ram .

i just threw in my specs as quick as possible..my monitor is actually a 144hertz 1080p that i grabbed for 180 euro... which i think is such a great steal as its an acer predator

 

srry to inform you like this but i hadnt much time to put my post together  

 

[lilEpicNam3]

3 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Regarding you question: it's a lottery, some boards already have updated BIOS while others don't, there is no way of knowing unless specified by the vendor.

ok thanks the info... 

on the down side if the motherboard i buy doesnt have its bios updated what would i have to do, to update it?

 

[lilEpicNam3]

is the motherboard i choose not a good overclocker?

im not too worried about not being able to overclock as i will only want to do some slight overclocking .. nothing major.

 

(BTW : the cooler was given to me from my brother as a present)

[Princess Luna]

8 minutes ago, lilEpicNam3 said:

ok thanks the info... 

on the down side if the motherboard i buy doesnt have its bios updated what would i have to do, to update it?

You can contact AMD directly and request a bootkit using your R5 3600 warranty.

[lilEpicNam3]

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

You can contact AMD directly and request a bootkit using your R5 3600 warranty.

alright thanks

[nick name]

12 minutes ago, lilEpicNam3 said:

alright thanks

Going through AMD will be a huge pain in the ass though.  Should be a last resort.  They require you to contact the mobo manufacturer first.  

[SpookyCitrus]

46 minutes ago, lilEpicNam3 said:

ok thanks the info... 

on the down side if the motherboard i buy doesnt have its bios updated what would i have to do, to update it?

 

Before you buy the motherboard from Amazon or Newegg or wherever you decide to purchase it from contact the seller to see if it will have the bios update to support Zen2 CPUs before you buy it. If you get one that does not have the update most computer service centers/shops should be able to do the bios update for you and usually for pretty cheap. Otherwise if you want to do it yourself, you can use a Zen or Zen+ CPU to update the board, or request a boot kit from your motherboard manufacturer.