Nvidia's New SUPER Cards!

[Emily Young]

After so much teasing, Nvidia just dropped some SUPER new cards for us to test out – Let’s see if they’re SUPER good or SUPER bad..

 

 

Buy a GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: TBD

 

Buy a GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: TBD

 

Buy a GeForce RTX 2060:
On Amazon: https://lmg.gg/8KV53
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV5m

[Princess Luna]

I have no words how to express my great disappointment at the fact nVidia in the end decided to delay the RTX 2080 Super since AMD again didn't manage to bring any competition what so ever to the high end.

 

I have been saying Navi is a great disappointment, regardless the architectural changes and the fact this cards brings them higher profit margins, the reality is that on the market standpoint the Navi cards were a great failure as is:

 

On pair performance with the previous Vega 56 and Vega 64 for the same price points (on launch since Vega 64 is actually 400ish dollars making a Strix/Nitro+ a better card than a blower cooled 5700 XT), lacks the compute capacity for other usages, lacks HBM2.

 

What did AMD truly tried to accomplish by delaying the so called "Big Navi"? Avoid making the Radeon 7 EOL too soon? At the 700 to 800 dollars margin we have the overpriced RTX 2080 which gives nothing new in comparison to the 1080 Ti aside the gimmick DXR, the Radeon 7 is behind both in gaming. There literally is not a single truly good value card at this price point if you want great performance.

 

Now I was waiting the Super line up to fix it, so I could now grab a RTX 2080 Super and have finally a card that at least finally truly outpaces the 1080 Ti even if at such high cost but nope, thanks to AMD incapacity to ever be relevant on the high end GPU spectrum the way is going to be 1k bucks on the terribly overpriced 2080 Ti.

[restless]

Anthony's on fire at the moment.

Can't we just call them RTX 2065 and RTX 2075?

[xtroria]

As a recent 2060 owner, I just got f*cked in the butt by nvidia. 

 

Super cards were not rumored at the time when i bought it

[Royz]

Nice results from those super cards. Before confirmation got out, I was kinda leaning towards buying a 5700XT upgrading from a 1060 6GC OC with a i7 9700K cpu. We all have to thank AMD for this I guess? but am kinda intrigue though what would be AMD's response on these price drop? at 2020 Navi with Ray tracing?

 

Also, what do you guys think? Shall i have a 2060 super?2070?or 2070 super. or better yet wait for more independent benchmarks?

[SolarNova]

This is where performance should have been at RTX launch.

 

Remember that Nvidia likely switched up the naming scheme in their product line so that more people were tricked into forking out over 1k for 2080ti's, people who had never bothered to buy Titans in the past for the very same reason (cost) were suddenly ok spending that much because its named 2080ti, and not Titan.

 

Depending on how you look at it you can say they:

 

Rebranded a Titan as a 2080ti to get people to buy them due to the name, whilst sticking to the original Titan pricing.  This ofc meant that the 2080 'should' have been a 2080ti rebranded to the 2080 in terms of a performance increase over the 1080ti, it wasn't and thus we were left with 1080ti and 2080 being more or less the same.

or you can say:

They simple moved the pricing scheme up 1 tier. The 2080ti is in fact a 2080ti but priced like the original Titan, and the 2080 is the 2080 but priced like the usual X80ti scew.

 

Either way the consumer was screwed over.

 

Enter the 'super' cards.

One could argue the 2080 super is in fact a 2080ti, and the 2080ti is in fact a Titan. The pricing scheme being that the super cards are replacing the lower cards certainly fits that argument, but it doesnt excuse the original pricing of the RTX lineup.

 

What ever the case may be, Nvidia really screwed the pooch with this series naming and pricing.

 

I actually upgraded during the RTX series, but i didn't get an RTX card, for the 1st time in my adult life i bought a used card. A 1080ti, because the RTX lineup has no direct replacement for the 1080ti that wasn't obscenely priced (2080ti).

 

The 2080 super may well be the real 1080ti replacement, but its to late, with that people have already chosen to upgrade after the initial RTX launch.

 

Basically if Nvidia had launched this series with the normal naming scheme and included these cards, all would be well.

 

Titan V (Titan V)           Cost:3k

Titan RTX (Titan RTX)  Cost:2.2k

Titan (2080ti)                Cost:1k

2080ti (2080 super)     Cost:650

2080 (2080)                 Cost:550

2070ti (2070 super)     Cost:450

2070 (2070)                 Cost:400

2060ti (2060 super)     Cost:350

2060 (2060)                 Cost:300

2050ti (1660ti)             Cost:250

2050 (1660)                 Cost:200

[Tax]

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

I have no words how to express my great disappointment at the fact nVidia in the end decided to delay the RTX 2080 Super since AMD again didn't manage to bring any competition what so ever to the high end.

 

I have been saying Navi is a great disappointment, regardless the architectural changes and the fact this cards brings them higher profit margins, the reality is that on the market standpoint the Navi cards were a great failure as is:

 

On pair performance with the previous Vega 56 and Vega 64 for the same price points (on launch since Vega 64 is actually 400ish dollars making a Strix/Nitro+ a better card than a blower cooled 5700 XT), lacks the compute capacity for other usages, lacks HBM2.

 

What did AMD truly tried to accomplish by delaying the so called "Big Navi"? Avoid making the Radeon 7 EOL too soon? At the 700 to 800 dollars margin we have the overpriced RTX 2080 which gives nothing new in comparison to the 1080 Ti aside the gimmick DXR, the Radeon 7 is behind both in gaming. There literally is not a single truly good value card at this price point if you want great performance.

 

Now I was waiting the Super line up to fix it, so I could now grab a RTX 2080 Super and have finally a card that at least finally truly outpaces the 1080 Ti even if at such high cost but nope, thanks to AMD incapacity to ever be relevant on the high end GPU spectrum the way is going to be 1k bucks on the terribly overpriced 2080 Ti.

I think the 2080 super comes out in July though.

[RyomaSJibenG]

that 2060 super definitely get my attention....

[Tristerin]

@GabenJr 2min and 25 seconds in you had me.  The way you mix in genre specific words, and nomenclatures to describe things...<3

 

When you mentioned it not getting as good as a buff, I decided you posting about poor people...nm Ill still bring that screenshot up from time to time bwuahahaha

[samcool55]

Is it just me or is all of this still just too, expensive?

Yes the performance is good and the price/performance is higher, but, 400 bucks to get a graphics card is still imo too expensive for the majority of people.

[Zberg]

3 hours ago, SolarNova said:

This is where performance should have been at RTX launch.

 

Remember that Nvidia likely switched up the naming scheme in their product line so that more people were tricked into forking out over 1k for 2080ti's, people who had never bothered to buy Titans in the past for the very same reason (cost) were suddenly ok spending that much because its named 2080ti, and not Titan.

 

Depending on how you look at it you can say they:

 

Rebranded a Titan as a 2080ti to get people to buy them due to the name, whilst sticking to the original Titan pricing.  This ofc meant that the 2080 'should' have been a 2080ti rebranded to the 2080 in terms of a performance increase over the 1080ti, it wasn't and thus we were left with 1080ti and 2080 being more or less the same.

or you can say:

They simple moved the pricing scheme up 1 tier. The 2080ti is in fact a 2080ti but priced like the original Titan, and the 2080 is the 2080 but priced like the usual X80ti scew.

 

Either way the consumer was screwed over.

 

Enter the 'super' cards.

One could argue the 2080 super is in fact a 2080ti, and the 2080ti is in fact a Titan. The pricing scheme being that the super cards are replacing the lower cards certainly fits that argument, but it doesnt excuse the original pricing of the RTX lineup.

 

What ever the case may be, Nvidia really screwed the pooch with this series naming and pricing.

 

I actually upgraded during the RTX series, but i didn't get an RTX card, for the 1st time in my adult life i bought a used card. A 1080ti, because the RTX lineup has no direct replacement for the 1080ti that wasn't obscenely priced (2080ti).

 

The 2080 super may well be the real 1080ti replacement, but its to late, with that people have already chosen to upgrade after the initial RTX launch.

 

Basically if Nvidia had launched this series with the normal naming scheme and included these cards, all would be well.

 

Titan V (Titan V)           Cost:3k

Titan RTX (Titan RTX)  Cost:2.2k

Titan (2080ti)                Cost:1k

2080ti (2080 super)     Cost:650

2080 (2080)                 Cost:550

2070ti (2070 super)     Cost:450

2070 (2070)                 Cost:400

2060ti (2060 super)     Cost:350

2060 (2060)                 Cost:300

2050ti (1660ti)             Cost:250

2050 (1660)                 Cost:200

Ya when I saw all the pricing I was like..."Oh so this is actually closer to where the price/performance SHOULD have been when it launched."  It's a shame.  I wanted a beast card so I ponied up the dough, but the 20 series initial launch was certianly price gouging at its finest

[Tax]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

 

Well, Nvidia usually holds off for competition.  The 1080 Ti was a response to the Vega 64, iirc.  The Radeon VII can rival up to around, sometimes better, and sometimes equal performance in gaming to the 2080.  AMD currently, outside of maybe trademarking, doesn't have anything to warrant a 2080 super or a 2080 Ti super.  Given Nvidia's history in the matter that would be why they'd delay past July, but who knows it's currently all speculation.  There's another rumor going around that AMD is releasing 2 more Navi cards soon with one above the 2070 tier Navi card and one below the 2060.  The only ones in the trademarking crap that have me curious are the 5950 and the XT version of that they sound promising, but like I'm not getting my hopes either and they might not even exist.

Websites are saying 23rd of July for the 2080 super.

[Ashleyyyy]

can i just say i love the long pauses before the ad spots. it gives me just enough time to reach to my keyboard and tap the right arrow key a bunch. 

 

i love this move because before i had to listen to 3 ad spots (or at least part of the second and third one) per video, and now that's one. the YouTube ad thing because i disable adblocker on YouTube. 

 

thanks for this change LMG!

[nesnalica]

anthony you should watch out for your health more! if you start to feel sick and cough a lot linus should give you paid days off to rest!

[Video Beagle]

20 hours ago, GabenJr said:

After so much teasing, Nvidia just dropped some SUPER new cards for us to test out – Let’s see if they’re SUPER good or SUPER bad.

 

Off topic for this vid, but it was a riotus joy having Anthony host Techlinked the ohter day.

[MeatFeastMan]

The 2060 Super is pathetic really. We've had the 2060, the overpriced 2070 which is really a 2060ti...and now we've got basically another 2060ti that isn't actually called that. 3 cards within like 10% performance of each other. The 8gb VRAM is very welcome though.

 

The 2070 Super is now the new high-end card to buy. At $499 it actually kills off the 2080 Super, 2080 and Radeon VII, unless AMD lower their prices (Which they'll have to do now). By the looks of things, the 2080 Super isn't the mini 2080ti we were all hoping for although we don't 100% know that yet.

 

AMD...you could have done so much better! All they have to do is lower that 5700 non-xt to $300 and people will buy that thing in droves. WHERE ARE THE MIDRANGE OPTIONS? We need to go and beg at AMD headquarters. That was their original plans, to have these replace the RX 580. AMD were supposed to give us the Turing killer. And unlike Vega...THEY STILL CAN. Just lower the prices, $300 for the 5700, $375 for the 5700 XT. That's all we want. Even $325 for the 5700 and $400 for the 5700 XT. Anything but this.

 

It's all disappointing, both Nvidia and AMD launches. And that's coming from an AMD lover.

[RobGamez]

Any chance of seeing how SLI/NVLink scales on these new Super cards?