2600K, 4790K, or 4960X?

[crazysteve240]

So, I came across 3 deals for used pc parts and I would like some suggestions on which one to go with or if any of these are good deals at all(currency is in CAD).

 

1st option: $200

-i7 2600k

- Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard

-16gb 4x4 DDR3 1600

 

2nd option: $350

-I7 4790K

-Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 Motherboard

-16gb 8x2 ram

 

3rd option: $400

-i7 4960X

-Asus Rampage 4 Black Edition motherboard

- 32gb 2400 Corsair Dominator platinum

 

I'm gonna pair any one of these setups with a Sapphire HD 7870 Ghz Edition, and i'm gonna use it for mostly gaming. Any suggestions?

 

[Boinbo]

7 minutes ago, crazysteve240 said:

So, I came across 3 deals for used pc parts and I would like some suggestions on which one to go with or if any of these are good deals at all(currency is in CAD).

 

1st option: $200

-i7 2600k

- Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard

-16gb 4x4 DDR3 1600

 

2nd option: $350

-I7 4790K

-Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 Motherboard

-16gb 8x2 ram

 

3rd option: $400

-i7 4960X

-Asus Rampage 4 Black Edition motherboard

- 32gb 2400 Corsair Dominator platinum

 

I'm gonna pair any one of these setups with a Sapphire HD 7870 Ghz Edition, and i'm gonna use it for mostly gaming. Any suggestions?

 

The 4690x, everything on it is betterment, even if it's $400.

Edit: NVM do the 4790K one.

[Princess Luna]

For a 7870? just go with the cheapest 2600K build, it's not the fastest GPU out there.

 

If you were to spend 350$ on a 4790K then the extra 50 bucks for the old Extreme Edition 4960X with double the memory is by all means justified and should be your option.

[Tristerin]

Agree with @Princess Luna - especially if you are not wanting to spend money on PC components for a while.  

 

The 4960X is still a capable CPU for 4k gaming, but it would be lost on the 7870 as noted above.

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1977vs3917

[Firewrath9]

8 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Agree with @Princess Luna - especially if you are not wanting to spend money on PC components for a while.  

 

The 4960X is still a capable CPU for 4k gaming, but it would be lost on the 7870 as noted above.

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1977vs3917

But better in the future. I’d pay 150$ for the RAM alone, 220 if it’s B-Die EDIT: Its DDR3

Corsair Dom plats are hand-binned IIRC

oh nvm it’s X79, not X99

[Boinbo]

4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Agree with @Princess Luna - especially if you are not wanting to spend money on PC components for a while.  

 

The 4960X is still a capable CPU for 4k gaming, but it would be lost on the 7870 as noted above.

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1977vs3917

4960X can do 4k? Wow.

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

But better in the future. I’d pay 150$ for the RAM alone, 220 if it’s B-Die

100%, but if he isn't planning on spending money on a GPU in the future either by then that CPU may not be worth (the X) gaming with either as it wouldn't be utilized.

 

EDIT - if it was me Id get the X too, hands down

[crazysteve240]

5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Agree with @Princess Luna - especially if you are not wanting to spend money on PC components for a while.  

 

The 4960X is still a capable CPU for 4k gaming, but it would be lost on the 7870 as noted above.

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1977vs3917

Yeah, I don't really want to buy a new graphics card right now. I play on a 1440 x 900 monitor and I don't really care that much about graphics. For the future I do want to be able to Cyberpunk 2077, though. 

[Jurrunio]

4960X and stick to it much longer, or just 2600k and see how far it gets you. So far 2600k can still run all games at 1080p60 if your graphics card is powerful enough

[DildorTheDecent]

Buy the 4960X lot, sell the 4960X, buy a single socket 8 core ES Xeon. You'll have 8 cores and an unlocked multiplier. Good fun.

 

That seller is a fool for getting rid of a RIVBE. Defo get it, even for that board alone.

[crazysteve240]

14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

4960X and stick to it much longer, or just 2600k and see how far it gets you. So far 2600k can still run all games at 1080p60 if your graphics card is powerful enough

How much do you think you can overclock a 2600k on that motherboard with a hyper 212 cooler?

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, crazysteve240 said:

How much do you think you can overclock a 2600k on that motherboard with a hyper 212 cooler?

I ran 4.2GHz 1.25V when I'm using a hyper 212 evo. Maybe yours can clock higher if it's not as degraded as mine, but 1.25V is as high as I would push. I'm already getting 150w down the EPS 8pin powering the CPU specifically at that point.

[Leanora]

4 hours ago, crazysteve240 said:

How much do you think you can overclock a 2600k on that motherboard with a hyper 212 cooler?

Previously I had an 2500k that was on 4.6Ghz, a bit less success with the 2600k, 4.2Ghz 'only', both air cooled.

 

1st option in part depends on how far you can overclock it. There is not that big of a difference to the 4000 series.

 

You certainly will not get twice the performance between option 1 and 3.

[trevb0t]

I'd grab the 4790K build. Unless you need the extra cores on the 4960X, the 4790K performs as well or better in gaming.

32GB RAM is no benefit over 16GB in most use cases.

 

@DildorTheDecent's Xeon suggestion is a pretty legit route. A decent Xeon MOBO is actually pretty expensive these days, and it's a legit CPU.

 

[Aerpoweron]

I agree with trevb0t. If you don't want to stream or do anything other CPU-heavy while gaming, go with the 4790k. If you pair it with a z97 (or most z87 from AsRock) board, you even got NVME boot support.

I still play on the 4790k with a Vega 64 gpu. Running 2560x1440 with 144Hz monitors. No issue with any games so far.

And if something should break, you can easily get replacement parts. 

[Mick Naughty]

I’d do the third option. Board is way better than anything there. 

Already had a 4790k and it wasn’t all that great so not missing out on much. 

[Aerpoweron]

400$ is a very good price for the whold 4960x combo. Usually you pay almost as much only for the mainboard on e-bay.

[crazysteve240]

9 hours ago, Leanora said:

Previously I had an 2500k that was on 4.6Ghz, a bit less success with the 2600k, 4.2Ghz 'only', both air cooled.

 

1st option in part depends on how far you can overclock it. There is not that big of a difference to the 4000 series.

 

You certainly will not get twice the performance between option 1 and 3.

I think he was able to overclock to 4.5 Ghz, according to this picture in the ad. I don't know what cooler he used though

[crazysteve240]

1 minute ago, crazysteve240 said:

I think he was able to overclock to 4.5 Ghz, according to this picture in the ad. I don't know what cooler he used though

@Jurrunio Is this a good 2600k? According to the clock speed, temps and voltage at 100% usage?

[bluebuffalo831]

that is great keep up the good work

[FarAwayFromTheSun]

I would have thought even an entry build on Ryzen would be a better idea.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, crazysteve240 said:

@Jurrunio Is this a good 2600k? According to the clock speed, temps and voltage at 100% usage?

Better than mine at least. You're not doing that with a hyper 212 tho, which is not a cooler you should buy.

[Leanora]

55 minutes ago, HedgeSledge said:

I would have thought even an entry build on Ryzen would be a better idea.

It would but I can't make one with a 2400G nor even with a 2200G for 400CAD, If you can I would love to see it and probably end up saying to go with that one.

 

1 hour ago, crazysteve240 said:

I think he was able to overclock to 4.5 Ghz, according to this picture in the ad. I don't know what cooler he used though

Seems decent enough. It's hard to say if it would run cyberpunk. What i can tell you is that I was running the witcher 3 with my 2500k @4.6 + AMD 290 at med and some high without AA around 40-50 FPS on 1920/1080. 

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4960X/621vs1977

 

The 3rd option, while it does not do a whole lot extra for gaming, 2 more cores for compiling etc is nice to have.

Up to you if you think that's worth paying 400cad instead of 200.

[crazysteve240]

25 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Better than mine at least. You're not doing that with a hyper 212 tho, which is not a cooler you should buy.

Ok so I asked him how he overclocked it and he said he used a hyper 212 evo. He said he got 4.5 Ghz with a max load temp of 76. He also said he did that with 1080ti which was maxing out the cpu which is why he upgraded.

 

Don't know how truthful he is being but I think I'm just gonna go with the first option.

[Leanora]

The GPU has nothing to do with it. What I can say is that the 1080TI is wasted on the CPU.

I always used one of the scythe mugen  coolers, it did it's job well enough.  I can't remember if I was using 1 fan or 2 fans on the cpu block though.

 

Speaking of GPU's, you mentioned the Sapphire HD 7870, that is a 2GB GPU. You might want to check for a cheap 4GB card.

Sadly I don't know NVIDIA cards well enough but AMD side i wouldn't go for anything less than a 290, the 300/400 series are just refreshes.

You should be able to find something for around 100/150 CAD I think?