Quake II RTX is out now for free

[steelo]

3 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

This has to be one of the most idiotic things nVidia done this year... and that's saying a lot when it's nVidia.

 

Yes the game only cares about RT Cores, the TITAN V tanks just as much as the 1080 Ti. No a game from 1997 using DXR is not a way to promote the RTX 2080 over the GTX 1080 Ti and Radeon 7.

 

Exactly, showing that only their newest top of the line cards are able to path trace a 20 year old game at reasonable speeds is...a dumb PR move, to say the least.

[Majinhoju]

This ran at a glorious 12fps on my gtx 1080, haha.

[steelo]

2 minutes ago, Majinhoju said:

This ran at a glorious 12fps on my gtx 1080, haha.

How sad, what an insult to those who spent big money for their top of the line cards a year or so ago.

[Majinhoju]

I think Nvidia enabled on RTX on the GTX series just to give us a taste and a hunger to upgrade.

I'm not going to bite just yet, non rtx games run just great on my gpu.

[steelo]

2 minutes ago, Majinhoju said:

I think Nvidia enabled on RTX on the GTX series just to give us a taste and a hunger to upgrade.

I'm not going to bite just yet, non rtx games run just great on my gpu.

Most people aren't going to upgrade to be able to play a single 20 year old game that uses ray tracing.

 

[CiBi]

I wonder how many GPU generations it will take for AAA games to be able to use global illumination ray tracing and run at 4k/60. Cause I don't see it happening next gen.

[steelo]

2 minutes ago, CiBi said:

I wonder how many GPU generations it will take for AAA games to be able to use global illumination ray tracing and run at 4k/60. Cause I don't see it happening next gen.

There's no way...I say at least 5-10 years IMO

[Mira Yurizaki]

So we're expecting path tracing, a computationally expensive technique that in the past took seconds per frame for acceptable quality, to magically run at 60FPS on hardware that doesn't have RT acceleration?

[steelo]

Just now, Mira Yurizaki said:

So we're expecting path tracing, a computationally expensive technique that in the past took seconds per frame for acceptable quality, to magically run at 60FPS on hardware that doesn't have RT acceleration?

Well, 'showcasing' that their RT accelerated hardware can RT a 20 year old game isn't exactly making me jump to buy one.

[Majinhoju]

1 minute ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

So we're expecting path tracing, a computationally expensive technique that in the past took seconds per frame for acceptable quality, to magically run at 60FPS on hardware that doesn't have RT acceleration?

I can't speak for everyone else but I was expecting to watch a slide show.  I just wanted to see it with my own eyes and report my findings.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Well, 'showcasing' that their RT accelerated hardware can RT a 20 year old game isn't exactly making me jump to buy one.

Okay then, don't buy one.

 

To me, anything that let's me see ray tracing in action and play around with the technology is the more exciting prospect. But I guess people are too into "muh fps" to actually give a damn about graphics technology.

[steelo]

4 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Okay then, don't buy one.

 

To me, anything that let's me see ray tracing in action and play around with the technology is the more exciting prospect. But I guess people are too into "muh fps" to actually give a damn about graphics technology.

Well, most people like their games to be playable versus having bragging rights of being able to say, "My card can RT and yours cant!" Most people.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Well, most people like their games to be playable versus having bragging rights of being able to say, "My card can RT and yours cant!" Most people.

I like playable games too.

 

But I like new graphics technology. Unless you're telling me we should go back to the days of the original Quake and Unreal engines.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Well, most people like their games to be playable versus having bragging rights of being able to say, "My card can RT and yours cant!" Most people.

Playable is HIGHLY subjective.

 

For me, 30 is perfectly playable, so something like RTX capping me to 60 is oerfectly fine if the game genuinely looks better.

[steelo]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Playable is HIGHLY subjective.

 

For me, 30 is perfectly playable, so something like RTX capping me to 60 is oerfectly fine if the game genuinely looks better.

 

3 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

I like playable games too.

 

But I like new graphics technology. Unless you're telling me we should go back to the days of the original Quake and Unreal engines.

Sure, but most folks aren't going to go out and spend a grand just to be able to say their card can RT.

 

It was a stupid PR move by NVidia.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Sure, but most folks aren't going to go out and spend a grand just to be able to say their card can RT.

 

It was a stupid PR move by NVidia.

I don't understand how it is. If anything this is the same as a tech demo that both AMD and NVIDIA used to do to show off what they're graphics cards can do. And nobody seemed to go "lol, why do these exist?"

[steelo]

Just now, Mira Yurizaki said:

I don't understand how it is. If anything this is the same as a tech demo that both AMD and NVIDIA used to do to show off what they're graphics cards can do. And nobody seemed to go "lol, why do these exist?"

"Look everybody, our $1,100 graphics card can ray trace a 20 year old game at 30 fps" LOL

 

I'm just saying.

[Jurrunio]

19 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

So we're expecting path tracing, a computationally expensive technique that in the past took seconds per frame for acceptable quality, to magically run at 60FPS on hardware that doesn't have RT acceleration?

I'm not, but at least I hope the stone walls will look like stone walls, not flat clay painted to look like rocks. Rivets on steel walls look like rivets, not boogers. I'm all in for making old games look modern, but not having tessellation but implementing RT is like... misplaced priorities? Or just too far into "advertise RTX" than "make the game look good with RTX"

[Mira Yurizaki]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm not, but at least I hope the stone walls will look like stone walls, not flat clay painted to look like rocks. Rivets on steel walls look like rivets, not boogers. I'm all in for making old games look modern, but not having tessellation but implementing RT is like... misplaced priorities? Or just too far into "advertise RTX" than "make the game look good with RTX"

Issues that are related to the geometry and textures of the game, not the rendering engine itself. All they did was replace the original OpenGL rendering engine with a Vulkan one that's using NVIDIA's RT extensions.

 

7 minutes ago, steelo said:

"Look everybody, our $1,100 graphics card can ray trace a 20 year old game at 30 fps" LOL

 

I'm just saying.

 

 

[steelo]

8 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Issues that are related to the geometry and textures of the game, not the rendering engine itself. All they did was replace the original OpenGL rendering engine with a Vulkan one that's using NVIDIA's RT extensions.

 

 

 

I'm still waiting for supercars to be affordable to the average consumer

 

Fun? Yes

Practical? Not so much

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, steelo said:

 

Sure, but most folks aren't going to go out and spend a grand just to be able to say their card can RT.

 

It was a stupid PR move by NVidia.

This was said about many technologies.

[steelo]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

This was said about many technologies.

Yes, it's exciting that RT may be a 'thing' in the next 5-10 years. Right now, we have a $1,100  'Model A' card to run a 20 year old game at 30 fps. LOL.

 

NVidia PR strategy is idiotic, to say the least.

[Mira Yurizaki]

10 minutes ago, steelo said:

Yes, it's exciting that RT may be a 'thing' in the next 5-10 years.

Maybe if you're a PCMR snob who demands 4K 144 FPS.

[steelo]

7 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Maybe if you're a PCMR snob who demands 4K 144 FPS.

That may be the norm in 10 years or so. I'm sure people called others who demanded 1080 'snobs' years ago...LOL

[WereCat]

51 minutes ago, steelo said:

"Look everybody, our $1,100 graphics card can ray trace a 20 year old game at 30 fps" LOL

 

I'm just saying.

It doesn't matter how old the game is. It's about how big of a leap in graphics you can make with a different rendering technology even on a game that was not intended to use it.