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i7-3770 with a pascal or turing card

zachb2185

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Right now I have an i7 3770 in my system and was considering getting a new GPU. Is it more worth it to get a whole new build or can I still make it worth it with my current system? 

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What GPU do you have at the moment?

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CPUIntel Core i9 9900k

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if youre comparing 1070Ti and 1660Ti i would definitely choose 1070Ti

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If you could find a 970 for a decent price that could be an option, you'd get a bit more of a bang. But I think most other cards you'd just be bottle-necking yourself. Maybe a 1060 at a push, but again I think you'd have the same issue. Personally I'd upgrade the CPU and go on from there, but I'm not expert so don't take my word as gospel, just a suggestion. Hope this helps! :)

Current PC

CPUIntel Core i9 9900k

GPUGTX 1080 8GB FTW EVGA

MotherboardASUS PRIME Z370-A II

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 Mhz

Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

Storage 2: Hyper X 240GB

PSU: Corsair RM750 80 Plus Gold 750W

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2 minutes ago, Ardu said:

If you could find a 970 for a decent price that could be an option, you'd get a bit more of a bang. But I think most other cards you'd just be bottle-necking yourself. Maybe a 1060 at a push, but again I think you'd have the same issue. Personally I'd upgrade the CPU and go on from there, but I'm not expert so don't take my word as gospel, just a suggestion. Hope this helps! :)

I think you underestimate the i7. 

 

Depending on resolution and settings something like a 1070 or a 1080 is fine. I think a 2060 is about equivalent to that. 

That's an F in the profile pic

 

 

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1. what games and

2. what screen?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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6 minutes ago, Oalei said:

if youre comparing 1070Ti and 1660Ti i would definitely choose 1070Ti

I'm not comparing, I just wanna get something to put out a good FPS on 1440p 

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

1. what games and

2. what screen?

Games not really sure yet (Right now its Apex and a bit of Fortnite)

I've got a 1440p 144hz monitor

 

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2 minutes ago, zachb2185 said:

Games not really sure yet (Right now its Apex and a bit of Fortnite)

I've got a 1440p 144hz monitor

 

OK what I'm trying to say is the fastest Turing won't give you that much performance, the ones like 1080Ti/2080/Radeon VII will probably do it. 

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11 minutes ago, zachb2185 said:

I'm not comparing, I just wanna get something to put out a good FPS on 1440p 

if youj have 1440p 144Hz the ones who will give you those FPS is like 1080Ti/Radeon VII/2080(Ti). 

I need some kinda method to not post doubles when im lagging so bad.

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You really think a i7-3770 and a 2080 will work? His CPU will be extremely under powered surely?

Current PC

CPUIntel Core i9 9900k

GPUGTX 1080 8GB FTW EVGA

MotherboardASUS PRIME Z370-A II

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 Mhz

Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB

Storage 2: Hyper X 240GB

PSU: Corsair RM750 80 Plus Gold 750W

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Just now, Ardu said:

You really think a i7-3770 and a 2080 will work? His CPU will be extremely under powered surely?

sorry for that double post im having slow internet. Yeah it will work fine, if you want to know you can check your usage of i7 3770 in games and see if the GPU 100% or the CPU 100%

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I agree with Ardu. It surprised me when I saw the performance of the 3770 but I didn't think it would support a 2080. Although when my 950 is at 100% my cpu is at like 45-50% 

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Just now, zachb2185 said:

I agree with Ardu. It surprised me when I saw the performance of the 3770 but I didn't think it would support a 2080. Although when my 950 is at 100% my cpu is at like 45-50% 

OK get a Vega 64/2070, with some decent settings you could get 144hz just fine. 

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15 minutes ago, zachb2185 said:

Games not really sure yet (Right now its Apex and a bit of Fortnite)

I've got a 1440p 144hz monitor

3770 wont be hitting 144fps in these games very well, expect about 100fps at the best of times, lower for other games. Consider CPU upgrade if that's not good enough.

 

As for GPU, you can check here

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3443-apex-legends-gpu-benchmark-1080p-1440p-4k

as you can see, not even the best of GPU can hit 144fps at 1440p alone with high graphics settings. Best value high end GPUs are the RTX 2080 and Radeon VII, they perform similarly, with 2080's custom model cooling much better than the custom-board-less Radeon VII, but also more expensive.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Forget all this ‘bottlenecking’ talk people repeat from YouTube videos. 

 

Buy whatever card fits your budget and use case.

 

Maybe a high end card like a 1080ti won’t be able make 100% use out of it you’ll still get a great experience.

 

then when you later come to upgrade your CPU, you don’t need to replace the GPu you just carry on using the one you’ve got.

 

i personally ran a 3770 with a 970 and it was a great experience. Pubg’s uniptimised nonsense made me upgrade to a 1080ti and it performed great.

 

later I went to an 8700k and yes it was a better experience than the 3770 but by no means was the 3770 ever bad.

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It will be fine.  i7 3770k was / is a powerhouse CPU especially for its age.  What people tend to forget, not everyone is running at 144 FPS, on 1080p or 1440p.  Even if you put a RTX 2080 with an i7 3770k on 1080p or 1440p you going to be at 60 FPS.  

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34 minutes ago, Jay Deah said:

Forget all this ‘bottlenecking’ talk people repeat from YouTube videos. 

 

Buy whatever card fits your budget and use case.

 

Maybe a high end card like a 1080ti won’t be able make 100% use out of it you’ll still get a great experience.

 

then when you later come to upgrade your CPU, you don’t need to replace the GPu you just carry on using the one you’ve got.

 

i personally ran a 3770 with a 970 and it was a great experience. Pubg’s uniptimised nonsense made me upgrade to a 1080ti and it performed great.

 

later I went to an 8700k and yes it was a better experience than the 3770 but by no means was the 3770 ever bad.

Got a 760 running a 980 sitting by me. Not tried gaming on it. Not checked bottlenecking. It's for family. I fix, I send back, and I hope never to see it again!

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For that CPU I would say a RTX 2070.

 

It has slightly better IPC than my old i7 2600k and it was good with a GTX 1080.  That setup ran a 3440 X 1440 60hz monitor with no issues.

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