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Hi! this is my first gaming computer. Any recommendation or posible troubles. 

Thanks in advance!

 

PCPartPicker part list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler $57.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital - SN750 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $77.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $117.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Expedition Video Card $169.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case $55.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $145.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1620.60
  Mail-in rebates -$70.00
  Total $1550.60
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:00 EDT-0400  


 

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Just now, elpsycongroo said:

Any recommendation or posible troubles. 

 https://pcpartpicker.com/user/spirittrack/saved/YkNJ8d 

You can get a much better gaming experience for a lower price: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $158.88 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $117.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $85.99 @ Amazon
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1525.67
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $1490.67
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:00 EDT-0400  

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($94.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - SN750 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($77.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($117.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Expedition Video Card  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($55.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($145.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.39 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($55.85 @ OutletPC) 
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($39.97 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1550.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 15:57 EDT-0400

1. Not the best cooler for the price.

 

2. VRM heat issue on the motherboard under prolonged use, no debug features, $30 too expensive. I'd go with the MSI B450 Tomahawk

 

3. I wont get a small boot drive like that, Intel 660p 1TB cost $110 I think, thast might be a slower QLC NVMe drive but the larger capacity is imo more useful. Even if you keep the SN750, change the 860 Qvo out.

 

4. PSU is way overkill, even 9900k + 2080ti dont need more than a 650w PSU. You're fine with just a 500w unit.

 

5. For gaming you should cut the CPU for a bigger graphics card. R5 2600 with Vega graphics card or RTX 2060 for example. Can't recommend 2070 since it's $60 too expensive for its speed.

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $224.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $86.98 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $117.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $279.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case $55.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor MSI - Optix MAG241C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ B&H
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1590.79
  Mail-in rebates -$70.00
  Total $1520.79
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:07 EDT-0400  

I would recommend this instead. 

I changed the power supply, video card, Monitor (to the newer brighter version for the same price), the nvme SSD, CPU Cooler (the noctua is great but its ugly, the dark rock is close enough), and the CPU. 

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So there are a few things that stand out to me. First you don't want an oem copy of windows. It if you switch out parts later (and keep the same hard drive) then I have heard that windows will stop working and you need to contact them in order to get it working again. Second you are going really ham on some of the parts and not others. For example you have really nice motherboard and storage, but you are only using a rx 570. Here is what I would do instead if this is the budget that you are sticking to. (This isn't an end all be all, but a decent example of what you could do). You are going way too ham on that power supply as well you won't need a 850 w power supply especially for that price. 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler $57.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $149.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $67.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.78 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - Radeon RX 590 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card $259.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case $55.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $83.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $110.49 @ OutletPC
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1591.59
  Mail-in rebates -$70.00
  Total $1521.59
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:08 EDT-0400  

 

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8 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

You can get a much better gaming experience for a lower price: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $158.88 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $117.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $85.99 @ Amazon
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1525.67
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $1490.67
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:00 EDT-0400  

you didn't include windows in the cost

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2 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

you didn't include windows in the cost

That's because Windows is free, you don't need to pay to legally use Windows.

 

Here's the ISO file in case you don't trust me: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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8 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

That's because Windows is free, you don't need to pay to legally use Windows.

 

Here's the ISO file in case you don't trust me: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

OP included in his part list, its just helpful to include it in yours for comparison with the price. Some people want to pay full price for windows. 

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this, and add a corsair starter set (100 bucks) with it

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $116.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $36.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $128.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case $46.23 @ Amazon
Power Supply Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $309.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1477.24
  Mail-in rebates -$50.00
  Total $1427.24
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 16:20 EDT-0400  

 

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10 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

you don't need to pay to legally

technically not activating is breaking the eula, which can be law...

 

proud pirate tho

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One thing that I also noticed was that you have a 144hz monitor (which is great would reccomend), but you don't have the graphics hardware to back it up... so give it a more powerful graphics card for certain.

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Just now, Sorenson said:

OP included in his part list, its just helpful to include it in yours for comparison with the price. Some people want to pay full price for windows. 

You're ignoring my point. Your point is invalid because it's unnecessary to pay for Windows 10.

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

technically not activating is breaking the eula, which can be law...

Then why does Microsoft allow users to use Windows without paying for it?

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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Just now, r2724r16 said:

Then why does Microsoft allow users to use Windows without paying for it?

don't ask the pirate...

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I think I will definatly be upgrading the GC! lol it have been the one thing bullied lol! For the windows I'll prefer to pay...

Some of the parts seems cheaper, but I am for Puerto Rico, so the shipping is a issue. Mostly all PC parts my best shot is through Amazon...

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I thought the same thin for the EVGA, but since it is a Power Supply my thoughts are that lifespan is short and that more is better.... not sure..?!

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4 minutes ago, elpsycongroo said:

I thought the same thin for the EVGA, but since it is a Power Supply my thoughts are that lifespan is short and that more is better.... not sure..?!

Focus on the efficiency rating for the power supply. the system you parted out is estimated to use only 300w of power so you could even get away with a 400w power supply (but i would go with around a 600w). I usually only buy 80plus gold power supplies because I want them to last a long time. Also you can save money by going with the Ryzen 7 2700 and overclocking it (its not that hard) since you are planning on getting a nice air cooler with it. 

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1 hour ago, r2724r16 said:

Then why does Microsoft allow users to use Windows without paying for it?

They aren't actually. See my article here for why this is considered piracy and for why MS actually isn't technically allowing this:

 

By the way, I do like and agree with your build :)

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1 hour ago, Sorenson said:

you didn't include windows in the cost

A slight modification of his build. I'm in agreement that this is the better gaming experience:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $78.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $53.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1530.16
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $1490.16
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 18:06 EDT-0400  

The 2070 will outperform the RX 570/580/590, the GTX 1660/1660Ti and the RTX 2060.

The 9400F will outperform the 1600/1600x/2600/2600x/2700 (even when those CPUs are OCed).

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6 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

A slight modification of his build. I'm in agreement that this is the better gaming experience:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $78.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $109.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $53.24 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $53.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.39 @ OutletPC
Monitor MSI - Optix G24C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Cooler Master - Lite L Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $55.85 @ OutletPC
Headphones Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset $39.97 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1530.16
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $1490.16
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 18:06 EDT-0400  

The 2070 will outperform the RX 570/580/590, the GTX 1660/1660Ti and the RTX 2060.

The 9400F will outperform the 1600/1600x/2600/2600x/2700 (even when those CPUs are OCed).

um no. Ryzen offers a way better value proposition at the moment compared to intel, first because you can upgrade to any future platform cpu with just a bios update, second because core per dollar is much cheaper, third because factoring in motherboard cpu and ram is cheaper for ryzen, and several other reasons. That being said I do agree however that nvidia is a bit better performance per dollar. https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html It kinda depends though on price point and a few other factors.

 

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6 hours ago, sharknado34 said:

um no. Ryzen offers a way better value proposition at the moment compared to intel, first because you can upgrade to any future platform cpu with just a bios update, second because core per dollar is much cheaper, third because factoring in motherboard cpu and ram is cheaper for ryzen, and several other reasons. That being said I do agree however that nvidia is a bit better performance per dollar. https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html It kinda depends though on price point and a few other factors.

 

 That video actually proves my point. You can witness the 9400F winning in almost every game. And that's when both are at 3400MHz. When you pair both with 3000MHz like most people buy, then the 9400F remains close to where it was at with the 3400MHz result and the Ryzen falls further behind (it's more sensitive to RAM speed). The Z390 board allows upgrades to the 9700K and 9900K and possibly for Intel's next chip (we don't know yet). Core per dollar is the same, actually. Both are 6 cores. The Ryzen just has 6 more threads, which makes no difference in gaming when you consider that Assassin's Creed Origins uses 12 threads and the 9400F is still able to win even with 6 less threads. And your average consumer buying a gaming rig isn't doing ANYTHING that would take advantage of the extra threads such as modeling, rendering, streaming, folding, heavy file compression, etc. They are just gaming, web browsing, video watching, and email checking. Even when doing all of those things at once, that's not a load that changes anything.

 

Also there are seemingly quite a few B350 boards that are not getting a BIOS update to support Ryzen 3000. MSI B350 Tomahawk is an example where the B450 Tomahawk has received the update. They may cave to pressure because people have been outraged but we'll see.

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2 hours ago, elpsycongroo said:

I thought the same thin for the EVGA, but since it is a Power Supply my thoughts are that lifespan is short and that more is better.... not sure..?!

the g3 has problems on the over power protection. Aris (psu reviewer tomshardware) had one for testing, it died in the opp testing

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