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On 4/16/2019 at 11:03 AM, Falkentyne said:

100% either PSU or degradation.  Most likely degradation. PSU issues are more likely from old multi-rail systems that are showing bad voltage regulation.

It's not the motherboard.  I degraded two highly overclocked 2600K's to know.

Some other "know it alls" also thought it was the motherboard (not a cheap budget one either), but replacing the chip with another new one gave me even better clocks (for awhile) than the first one.  That one degraded eventually, albeit slowly until I replaced it with a 9900K

Your rig had a good run of 7 years.  It is degraded for sure.  Also listen to the above gurus and buy a nice solid PSU, as you can use it with your Zen 2 which is coming out in July.  good luck and just live with the 4.6Ghz until you get a new PSU and Zen 2.

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I have had a i5-2500k since 2012. It's been oced almost the whole time. Under win 7 I had it to 4.8 all the time at 1.35v but after win10 for some reason it wasn't stable so I had to dumb it down to 4.6. Then like 6 months ago,it started hanging a lot so I ended up putting it to auto voltage. 

Now in the past 2 months ive been getting clock watchdog BSODs like every other day. I googled it and just says update drivers and bios or go back to last working ones.... Ive had the up to date ones for years so i dunno what to do!?!?

 

Thanks for any help!

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yah thats been worn out from the voltage, you are going to be dialing back more and more untill it wont run at even bellow stock 1.4V in a while. Might also just die one day on you. 

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I suspect something else, like the board failing capacitors. CPUs dont drop out that quickly.

 

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It has been degradating over time because of overclock. And it's time has come.

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Be the CPU or the Motherboard or even the PSU, something has degraded physically from the prolonged usage with such a high overclock in place.

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Im still using a Diablotek 750w psu I got back then lol I pretty much cheaper out on everything but cpu and GPU back then. I'm just trying to make this rig last till zen 2 hits then I figure ill grab a 6c/12t zen 2 and it should be similar to an 8700k if the leaks are true. Though I would expect to pay 250ish for it instead of the sub 200 prices I've seen speculated. And tips on making this last 2 more month's? I might try a psu,since I wanted a 750w gold to support a vega vii I plan on getting when the new cpus are out.

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10 minutes ago, ChaseDown said:

Im still using a Diablotek 750w psu I got back then lol I pretty much cheaper out on everything but cpu and GPU back then. I'm just trying to make this rig last till zen 2 hits then I figure ill grab a 6c/12t zen 2 and it should be similar to an 8700k if the leaks are true. Though I would expect to pay 250ish for it instead of the sub 200 prices I've seen speculated. And tips on making this last 2 more month's? I might try a psu,since I wanted a 750w gold to support a vega vii I plan on getting when the new cpus are out.

It should last 'til then easily I would say... if needs be, just lower as much as possible to get stable again.

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13 minutes ago, ChaseDown said:

Im still using a Diablotek 750w psu I got back then lol I pretty much cheaper out on everything but cpu and GPU back then. I'm just trying to make this rig last till zen 2 hits then I figure ill grab a 6c/12t zen 2 and it should be similar to an 8700k if the leaks are true. Though I would expect to pay 250ish for it instead of the sub 200 prices I've seen speculated. And tips on making this last 2 more month's? I might try a psu,since I wanted a 750w gold to support a vega vii I plan on getting when the new cpus are out.

Ya i would start with a new PSU because you can always reuse it in your next build. 

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1 hour ago, ChaseDown said:

I have had a i5-2500k since 2012. It's been oced almost the whole time. Under win 7 I had it to 4.8 all the time at 1.35v but after win10 for some reason it wasn't stable so I had to dumb it down to 4.6. Then like 6 months ago,it started hanging a lot so I ended up putting it to auto voltage. 

Now in the past 2 months ive been getting clock watchdog BSODs like every other day. I googled it and just says update drivers and bios or go back to last working ones.... Ive had the up to date ones for years so i dunno what to do!?!?

 

Thanks for any help!

watchdog is usually a memory issue.

1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

yah thats been worn out from the voltage, you are going to be dialing back more and more untill it wont run at even bellow stock 1.4V in a while. Might also just die one day on you. 

lmfao, no it hasn't 1.3v is recommended but you can run a chip on much more voltage than that, trust me....

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1 hour ago, Benjeh said:

lmfao, no it hasn't 1.3v is recommended but you can run a chip on much more voltage than that, trust me....

sound a hell of a lot like degradation to me, wear from running higher voltage and overclocking.

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

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4.9ghz-CBR15-2ndtest.PNG.5cc9d179694e202d34f0521709adf1f5.PNG

Clock was lowered to 4.8ghz then voltage lowered to 1.55v.
 

Hope this helps.

11 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

sound a hell of a lot like degradation to me, wear from running higher voltage and overclocking.

I've ran my 6700K over 1.5v for 2 years now, no degradation, 4670k 1.55v that's been running for 5 years now as my friend has it. No degradation there either.

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6 hours ago, ChaseDown said:

I have had a i5-2500k since 2012. It's been oced almost the whole time. Under win 7 I had it to 4.8 all the time at 1.35v but after win10 for some reason it wasn't stable so I had to dumb it down to 4.6. Then like 6 months ago,it started hanging a lot so I ended up putting it to auto voltage. 

Now in the past 2 months ive been getting clock watchdog BSODs like every other day. I googled it and just says update drivers and bios or go back to last working ones.... Ive had the up to date ones for years so i dunno what to do!?!?

 

Thanks for any help!

100% either PSU or degradation.  Most likely degradation. PSU issues are more likely from old multi-rail systems that are showing bad voltage regulation.

It's not the motherboard.  I degraded two highly overclocked 2600K's to know.

Some other "know it alls" also thought it was the motherboard (not a cheap budget one either), but replacing the chip with another new one gave me even better clocks (for awhile) than the first one.  That one degraded eventually, albeit slowly until I replaced it with a 9900K

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So after reading all y'alls replys( thank you) I think I'm going to try getting a new psu, maybe also a used i7. Locally I can get 2nd hand a i7 3770 non k for 80 bucks and a 1050w toughpower(thermaltake) for 70.  My only concern is that if it's the board I waste 80 bucks but I can reuse the psu.  Or should I just get a newer good psu like a seasonic focus gold or a corsair rx850 for 100-140?

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You could get a dirt cheap i3 2100 for testing purposes and play some single core graphics o tensive games to test the board and PSU.

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On 4/16/2019 at 11:03 AM, Falkentyne said:

100% either PSU or degradation.  Most likely degradation. PSU issues are more likely from old multi-rail systems that are showing bad voltage regulation.

It's not the motherboard.  I degraded two highly overclocked 2600K's to know.

Some other "know it alls" also thought it was the motherboard (not a cheap budget one either), but replacing the chip with another new one gave me even better clocks (for awhile) than the first one.  That one degraded eventually, albeit slowly until I replaced it with a 9900K

Your rig had a good run of 7 years.  It is degraded for sure.  Also listen to the above gurus and buy a nice solid PSU, as you can use it with your Zen 2 which is coming out in July.  good luck and just live with the 4.6Ghz until you get a new PSU and Zen 2.

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