i9-7980XE Build, Need Help Finding A Cooler

[SenKa]

Hello LTT forums, I'm back at planning out insanity with my next build.

 

I purchased a Coolermaster Elite 130 for next to nothing, and want to put my next system in it as I actually use ODD's and don't want to lose them. Everything is planned out pretty well other than a cooler for my CPU. I have 2 options in this case:

 

120MM AIO

 

LP Air Cooler (65MM I think, can't check for ~7 hours)

 

Does anybody know of a cooler that would work for this situation? I seem to remember some Dynatron server cooler but it's so friggin small I can't imagine how it would cool such a hot chip.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

120MM AIO

You'll need a thicc radiator, like the H80i v2

[TheGlenlivet]

11 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Hello LTT forums, I'm back at planning out insanity with my next build.

 

I purchased a Coolermaster Elite 130 for next to nothing, and want to put my next system in it as I actually use ODD's and don't want to lose them. Everything is planned out pretty well other than a cooler for my CPU. I have 2 options in this case:

 

120MM AIO

 

LP Air Cooler (65MM I think, can't check for ~7 hours)

 

Does anybody know of a cooler that would work for this situation? I seem to remember some Dynatron server cooler but it's so friggin small I can't imagine how it would cool such a hot chip.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/intel-core-i9-7980xe-extreme-edition-18-cores-of-overclocked-cpu-madness/6/

With a 240mm AIO, these guys stayed in the 50s at stock clocks.  If you wanna OC, you might need an upgrade as they saw temps in the 80s at 4.6GHz.

Have a look.

[Sychic]

uhh why are you trying to put a 7980XE in a mini-ITX case

[Princess Luna]

11 minutes ago, Sychic said:

uhh why are you trying to put a 7980XE in a mini-ITX case

To see it thermal throttle and run and at 2ghz.

 

No 120mm AiO can cool it adequately and all mini-itx x299 we're designed having in mind at most the 7900X

 

The 7980XE will underperform so much its safe to say it's only purpose will be for bragging rights as lower count processors will likely outperform it easily on such a constrained system.

[SenKa]

6 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

To see it thermal throttle and run and at 2ghz.

 

No 120mm AiO can cool it adequately and all mini-itx x299 we're designed having in mind at most the 7900X

 

The 7980XE will underperform so much its safe to say it's only purpose will be for bragging rights as lower count processors will likely outperform it easily on such a constrained system.

Would a 7900X thermal throttle on a 120MM AIO? I haven't really kept up with HEDT chips.

 

Come to think of it, with Zen 2 offering 10c/20t on a much smaller (and probably more thermal efficient) CPU package that may be better if i can't get my 18c dreams.

[SpookyCitrus]

1 hour ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Would a 7900X thermal throttle on a 120MM AIO? I haven't really kept up with HEDT chips.

 

Come to think of it, with Zen 2 offering 10c/20t on a much smaller (and probably more thermal efficient) CPU package that may be better if i can't get my 18c dreams.

Is this a workstation build or gaming? You're going to want to do at least a 240mm aio for any Extreme processor. A mini build doesn't make sense for that type of processor no matter what you do it's going to have thermal issues, and I don't see you being able to get it to 18c on any High end Multi-core CPU it will get pretty hot pretty fast in a mini build. I'd switch the build to a full size and do a 240mm or bigger aio, or a custom loop. 

 

Ignore the part about  getting to 18c  in this post I thought OP meant temperature not core count lol.

[SenKa]

1 minute ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Is this a workstation build or gaming? You're going to want to do at least a 240mm aio for any Extreme processor. A mini build doesn't make sense for that type of processor no matter what you do it's going to have thermal issues, and I don't see you being able to get it to 18c on any High end Multi-core CPU it will get pretty hot pretty fast in a mini build. I'd switch the build to a full size and do a 240mm or bigger aio, or a custom loop. 

The plan was an Unraid build with a split virtualized environment. One for gaming and video editing, one for a Plex media server and NAS. Each half would get half the CPU cores, RAM, and the like.

 

Though... I do worry about display and USB output allocations as I know Unraid demands one of each for everything, and with an AMD platform I don't get that. I was leaning towards X299 because of this fact.

 

As to why Mini-ITX, the simple answer is portability. The longer answer is that for the next 6 years I will be moving every other year and I do not relish the idea of transporting an ATX midtower in my already cramped packing plan.

 

I would absolutely love a Corsair 380T, but the only for sale examples are over 200USD. But that also supports up to 150MM of air cooler clearance and an H100i...

 

That may be the much more sensible idea, and I will just grab a 5 1/4" enclosure for my ODD drive.

[Princess Luna]

55 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Would a 7900X thermal throttle on a 120MM AIO? I haven't really kept up with HEDT chips.

 

Come to think of it, with Zen 2 offering 10c/20t on a much smaller (and probably more thermal efficient) CPU package that may be better if i can't get my 18c dreams.

Your best alternative if you want x299 would be the i9 9900X which is the 10c/20t Refresh with soldered IHS for better thermals, if not waiting for Zen2 is not a bad idea either if you don't need the PCI-e lanes.

[SenKa]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Your best alternative if you want x299 would be the i9 9900X which is the 10c/20t Refresh with soldered IHS for better thermals, if not waiting for Zen2 is not a bad idea either if you don't need the PCI-e lanes.

In a Mini ITX case I wouldn't have room for much more than a GPU and some NVME drives, so I will certainly wait and see. I have also reached out to a few contacts about a 380T so if I can track down one of those then I can have a 240MM AIO or nearly full-height air tower for better cooling regardless.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, SenpaiKaplan said:

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If I were in your shoes, I'd personally make a dedicated super cheap system for NAS to reduce workloads and go for the mainstream i9 9900K if I'm honest.

 

You have a good use for a powerful CPU but even if you were going for a normal sized ATX system I still think the i9 7980XE would be overkill for it.

 

The i9 9900K is the best single threaded CPU in the market and 8 cores / 16 threads already allows you to do a world of stuff, just think how not long ago you'd pay 1 thousand dollars for a 8c/16t processor (i7 6900K) now you get a much better one for half that cost.

[SenKa]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If I were in your shoes, I'd personally make a dedicated super cheap system for NAS to reduce workloads and go for the mainstream i9 9900K if I'm honest.

 

You have a good use for a powerful CPU but even if you were going for a normal sized ATX system I still think the i9 7980XE would be overkill for it.

 

The i9 9900K is the best single threaded CPU in the market and 8 cores / 16 threads already allows you to do a world of stuff, just think how not long ago you'd pay 1 thousand dollars for a 8c/16t processor (i7 6900K) now you get a much better one for half that cost.

That is a good idea if I had the room... I am a college student, and this is my final build before I move out and stop receiving financial padding from my parents. Not only do I want a system that takes up as little space as possible (hence Mini ITX), I want one that can last me 6 or so years even if that means I need to take the NAS offline to improve performance. That is why I wanted to go as overkill as I could reasonably afford now, as this build will see me through the rest of my schooling.

 

I do greatly appreciate your, and @SpookyCitrus' help, as simply thinking through it a little deeper helped my build make much more sense. I will be on the hunt for a 380T for the better cooling, and see what Zen 2 has to bring! (Though, this would more or less ruin any chance at hackintoshing. But, given my plans for Unraid this seemed unlikely anyways as I don't think Unraid hackintoshing is a thing).

 

Solution is simple, KISS and be patient