Motherboard Tier List (EOL)

[Nobaris]

1 hour ago, LukeSavenije said:

it's master>ultra>pro>elite

Thanks! That’s my 1st option now. 

P.S. You forgot xtreme

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Nobaris said:

Thanks! That’s my 1st option now. 

P.S. You forgot xtreme

yeah, and designature, and ud, and gaming x, and the sli.

 

but i assumed you know that the extreme was better than the master

[lee32uk]

On 4/4/2019 at 11:09 AM, Nobaris said:

Which is higher end? The Master or Ultra? And I still don’t know which to get

If you watch Buildzoid he reckons that the Ultra could have the better VRM because of the components used on it. If you don't need the extra features then the Ultra is more than fine.

 

 

 

[Ero]

Hello.

I want to buy a Am4 motherboard and want to get Asus x470 Prime Pro but it seems it's VRM is not good and have the same performance as Msi x470 gaming plus, but Asus one is in tier A while Msi is in tier B and as a beginner I'm very confuse which one to pick right now.

 

For now I plan to buy a Ryzen 5 2600x and overclock it with a Rtx 2080 then letter buy a Ryzen 9 3850x with an x570 motherboard.

 

Also I live in a very hot place in summer weather can easily reach 45˚c so I don't know what to pick. What is the different between tier A and B?

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Ero said:

What is the different between tier A and B?

the difference for a 2600x is minimal, but for let's say that 3850x it would be a whole other thing. the tier b's are good for current gen, but not for next

[Ero]

32 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the difference for a 2600x is minimal, but for let's say that 3850x it would be a whole other thing. the tier b's are good for current gen, but not for next 

Then I should get Msi x470 gaming plus?

 

And thank you a lot.

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, Ero said:

Then I should get Msi x470 gaming plus?

 

And thank you a lot.

is there a difference in price with the b450 tomahawk, x470 fatal1ty, x470 aorus ultra or x470/b450 pro carbon?

[Xcoool]

@LukeSavenije  there seems to be a mistake... AMD tier A contains Asus  x470-Prime Pro. And tier B Asus x470 strix . When strix is higher model with actual cooling on VRM and just better equipped mobo overall.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Xcoool said:

@LukeSavenije  there seems to be a mistake... AMD tier A contains Asus  x470-Prime Pro. And tier B Asus x470 strix . When strix is higher model with actual cooling on VRM and just better equipped mobo overall.

one: i rate on vrm and issues, other things are irrelavant

two: ever noticed a lot of it is plastic and a strix pulls quite a lot more power?

[Xcoool]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

one: i rate on vrm and issues, other things are irrelavant

two: ever noticed a lot of it is plastic and a strix pulls quite a lot more power?

They have same vrm,but strix has actual coolers on vrm when prime has light covers.

Strix pulls more power because because PBO is much more agressive by default pretty much because of real coolers on vrm.

Strix comes with better capacitors.

Yeah it does have plastic shroud covering part of vrm cooler,but even crosshair has it...

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Xcoool said:

They have same vrm,but strix has actual coolers on vrm when prime has light covers.

Strix pulls more power because because PBO is much more agressive by default pretty much because of real coolers on vrm.

Strix comes with better capacitors.

Yeah it does have plastic shroud covering part of vrm cooler,but even crosshair has it...

any sources on that?

[Xcoool]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

any sources on that?

Yeah

Not no mention i have both.That is how i know BPO is much more aggressive on strix board.

 

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Xcoool said:

Yeah

Not no mention i have both.That is how i know BPO is much more aggressive on strix board.

interesting... thanks tho

[Xcoool]

18 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

interesting... thanks tho

Well there are same boards,except strix has better mosfets and capacitors...therefore slightly better VRM (more power stages as well according to buldzoid) i cant confirm that part.

But i am pretty sure with better VRM higher power consumption can be attributed to more aggressive PBO. Strix is crazy pushing x2700 over 180w with my 360mm AIO.

Prime pro pretty much never went over 140w with xfr2 and PBO running prime95. And you are welcome.

[Xcoool]

@LukeSavenije mate one more thing gibabite gaming  5 and Aorus Ultra gaming are the same boards with fake 8 phase (doubled 4 phase) they are the same level sa msi gaming plus.So certainly no tier A.Just jump in the buldzoid's video to 39 min.

[limelight.u]

Are there any other important differences between MSI B450 Tomahawk and B450M Mortar other than one being ATX and the other being mATX?

[LukeSavenije]

28 minutes ago, limelight.u said:

Are there any other important differences between MSI B450 Tomahawk and B450M Mortar other than one being ATX and the other being mATX?

for most people not really

[Ero]

On 4/6/2019 at 8:34 PM, LukeSavenije said:

is there a difference in price with the b450 tomahawk, x470 fatal1ty, x470 aorus ultra or x470/b450 pro carbon? 

None of them are available in here.

[LukeSavenije]

2 hours ago, Ero said:

None of them are available in here.

i mean, the gaming plus is decent, so if you can find it at a good price, go ahead

[ReggieGRS]

Asked @valdyrgramr on discord if there was any issues on the x299 platform, Like the one on x99 where asus oc socket was frying cpus on manual oc and turbo boost and putting out overvoltage warning prior of bbq. Was told about possible vrm issues and overheating and to refer to you guys on that @LukeSavenije @GoldenLag

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, ReggieGRS said:

Asked @valdyrgramr on discord if there was any issues on the x299 platform, Like the one on x99 where asus oc socket was frying cpus on manual oc and turbo boost and putting out overvoltage warning prior of bbq. Was told about possible vrm issues and overheating and to refer to you guys on that @LukeSavenije @GoldenLag

i am personally not aware of any issues per say, but the tier list does decrobe what boards you should be going for rather well. 

 

though x299 plattform should be avoided in general as there are better CPUs out there in form of threadripper or the 9900k. 

 

hence:

 

"Rule 2: dont buy Skylake; see rule 1"

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

 

from what i can quickly read now, it seems to be on the cheaper boards on x299, i think it should be fine with higher end (even midrangers, but I can explain it easier with 8+4 or 8+8 pin boards)

 

have to read up some more tho

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, valdyrgramr said:

As I said on the discord...I doubt it's an issue on the enthusiast or higher end ocing boards.  Do note this was more of an issue 2 years ago, and I doubt board makers were sitting on their asses ignoring the problem.   So, ya it's probably more of an issue on cheaper and older boards.

i notice some have second revisions, maybe that's why

[ReggieGRS]

@GoldenLag

@valdyrgramr

 

I'm not deadset on the x299 i'm just researching things so i'm well informed regardless of the decision. I was thinking on a Rampage VI Extreme. I assume that board is free of mentioned issues? And what about the overheating in the article? Was that fix or is it still a problem as of present?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, valdyrgramr said:

 

I'd doubt these too

 

extreme4 atx

aorus master (I'd even trust that one with a 9990xe)

ftw k

ws pro se

ws sage

aorus 7

m7