Motherboard Tier List (EOL)

[Cleotus]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

dont know much about sound cards (headphone bottleneck I guess?), sorry

So you are ok with basic chips like the ageing Realtek 892 on the Tomahawk and similar boards?  It actually just struck me that I can use my Focusrite Scarlett USB audio interface as a sound card, which would be an improvement. It seems the Realtek 8111H LAN should be fine until I upgrade to 10GB card someday, probably several years in the future.

 

Thanks again for helping everyone to focus more on the VRMs and I/O as everything else can be solved with additional hardware, but those two things are fixed (well sure, you could get a pci-e card for more USB ports, but who wants to do that?)

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Cleotus said:

So you are ok with basic chips like the ageing Realtek 892 on the Tomahawk and similar boards?  It actually just struck me that I can use my Focusrite Scarlett USB audio interface as a sound card, which would be an improvement. It seems the Realtek 8111H LAN should be fine until I upgrade to 10GB card someday, probably several years in the future.

I cant hear any difference between that and the ALC1220, guess I need a surround sound setup for that

[keavlar]

On 3/20/2019 at 12:43 PM, LukeSavenije said:

newer version can be found here:

 

Credit to:@VegetableStu @Jurrunio @GoldenLag

 

The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include modern motherboards for both Intel and AMD chips From Asus, Asrock, Biostar EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI, NZXT and Supermicro (chipsets will be listed). We’ll include the recommended chips we would do with the boards.

 

For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing

 

AMD (AM4 Althlon 2xx, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)

All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario. Only the top end SKU of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating. Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.

 

AM4 (Athlon 2xx, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)

Tier S 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme

MSI: X570 Godlike

 

Tier S- 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Strix-E, Pro WS Ace, Impact, ITX

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Creation, Ace, Unify

 

Tier A 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 Strix-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Prime-P, X470 Crosshair VII Hero, X370 Crosshair VI Extreme

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), X470 Gaming 7

MSI: X470 M7 AC

 

Tier B 160A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X, 3950x at 1.3V on ambient cooling, maxed out 1800X on LN2

Asus: X470 Strix-F, X370 Crosshair VI Hero, Strix-F

Biostar: X570 GT8, X470 GT8, X370 GT7

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Elite, ITX

 

Tier C 125A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2700X, 3900x at 1.3V on ambient cooling (P95)

Asus: X470 Strix-I, B450 Strix-I, X370 Prime Pro

Asrock: X570 Extreme4, Steel Legend, Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom K4

Gigabyte: X570 UD, Gaming X, X370 Gaming K7, Gaming 5

MSI: X570 Gaming Pro Carbon, !X470 Gaming Pro Carbon, !B450 Gaming Pro Carbon, Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), A Pro (& Max), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX, X370 M7 ACK, XPower Titanium

 

Tier D 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1800X and 3700X, a tad more than maxed out 2600X, maxed out 2700X in ambient cooling (Cinebench R15)

Asus: X470 Prime Pro, B450 TUF Pro, Strix-E, X370 Strix-I, B350 Strix-I

Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, ITX, !B450 K4, Steel Legend, ITX

Gigabyte: X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, B450 Aorus Pro (ATX), Aorus Elite

MSI: X570 A-Pro, Gaming Plus, Edge, !X470 Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B450 Pro-VDH (& Max & V2), Bazooka (& V2), X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming, SLI Plus, Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B350 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming

 

Tier E 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600X and 3600X, a bit more than maxed out 2500X

Asus: X470 TUF Plus, B450 Strix-F, TUF Plus, Prime Plus, X370 Prime-A, B350 Strix-F, Prime Plus, TUF Plus

Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, B450 K4, Steel Legend, Pro4, M/AC, HDV, X370 Gaming X, Killer SLI, mITX, K4, Pro4, B350 mITX, Pro4, K4, HDV, AB350M

Biostar: X470 GTA, GTQ, GTN, X370 GT5, GT3, B350 GT5, GT3, GTN

Gigabyte: B450 Aorus M, Gaming X, DS3H, ITX X370 Gaming K5, K3, 3, Gaming, DS3H, !B350 Gaming 3, Gaming, DASH, DS3H, AB350N Gaming-WiFi

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 (& Max) B350 Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, PC Mate, Bazooka, Mortar, Pro-VDH, Pro-VH Plus, Pro-VD Plus

 

Tier F 50A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1300X

Asus: B450 Prime-K, Prime-A, B350 Prime-A, Prime-E, Prime-K

Asrock: B450 HDV R4.0, B350 HDV R3.0, HDV R4.0

Biostar: X570GT, B350 B45M2, HiFi B350S1, ET2

Gigabyte: B350 D3H, D3V, HD3, DS2

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 V2, B350 Gaming Pro

 

Tier H2O Liquid cooled only VRM, terrible if cooled only with air, tier S if liquid cooled

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Formula

Asrock: X570 Aqua

 

Tier W Workstation features, can appear here and above tiers

Asus: X570 Pro WS Ace (ECC certification)

Asrock rack: X570 D2I, D4U-2L2T, X470 D4U (ECC cert + KVM switch), D4U2-2T (ECC cert + KVM switch)

 

AMD (TR4, Threadripper)

 

Tier LN2 700A current draw under mist of liquid nitrogen and high RPM fan (ambient air? unrealistic), maxed out 2990WX under an awful lot of liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier S 500A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out (1.35v) 2990WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2970WX on liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier A 350A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2990WX limited to 1.175v (P95)

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme

 

Tier B 300A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20)

Asus: Zenith Extreme with cooling kit

 

Tier C 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2950X on ambient cooling, 2970WX limited to 1.15v (P95)

Asus: Zenith Extreme

MSI: Gaming Pro Carbon AC, SLI Plus

 

Tier D 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2920X and 1950X on ambient cooling

Asus: Strix-E, Prime-A

Asrock: Taichi (mATX & ATX), Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: Gaming 7, Designare EX, Aorus Pro

 

Tier E 150A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1920X on ambient cooling

Asrock: Phantom 6

 

Intel (1151 v2, 2066)
 

Tier S Extreme overclocking (i7oc, i9oc)

Asus: Maximus XI extreme, Maximus X extreme, Rampage VI Apex, Rampage VI, Maximus XI Gene, Maximus X Apex, Maximus XI Apex

EVGA: Dark

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme (WaterForce), x299-aorus gaming 9

MSI: MEG Godlike, MEG creation

 

Tier A High-end gaming (i5oc, i7oc, i9oc)

Asrock: Taichi (ultimate) (xe), x299-Extreme4, Phantom Gaming 9, x299-fatal1ty (xe)

EVGA: FTW, Classified K, Micro

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, z390-Aorus Ultra, z390-Aorus Pro, z390-Aorus Elite, Aorus Gaming 7, x299-gaming 7 (pro)

MSI: M7, MEG ACE

 

Tier B Mainstream gaming (i5oc, i7oc)

Asus: zxxx-Strix, x299-strix, Maximus XI Formula/Hero/Code, Maximus X Formula/Hero/Code, zxxx-Prime-A, X299-TUF, X299-Prime Deluxe

Asrock: Phantom Gaming ITX/6/atx-ac/, zxxx-Fatal1ty, z370/z390-Extreme4
Biostar: Z370GT6

Gigabyte: z390-Gaming SLI/plus/m gaming, Gaming 5, x299-aorus gaming 3 (pro), x299-aorus ultra gaming, x299-aorus ultra gaming pro

MSI: zzxx-Pro Carbon, Edge, MPG, M5, Krait, x299-sli plus

NZXT: N7

 

Tier C Value gaming (i3, i5, i7)

Asus: hxxx-Strix, bxxx-Strix

Asrock: zxxx-Pro4, Phantom Gaming 4, ATX/ac, Killer/SLI, hxxx-fatal1ty, bxxx-fatal1ty, Bxxx-Pro4

Gigabyte: Gaming 3, UD4, z390-UD

MSI: Tomahawk, Mortar, Gaming Pro, bazooka, hxxx-pro carbon, Gaming Pro, Raider, zxxx-SLI plus

 

Tier D Basic (pentium, celeron, i3, i5)

Asus: TUF, Prime-P, Prime-Plus, Prime-C

Asrock: hxxx-Pro4, HDV, DGS, HDVP

EVGA: Stinger

Gigabyte: D3, XP, HD3, DS3H, N-wifi, s2p, n, m h, d3, S2, DS2V, HD2

MSI: A-Pro, PC-pro, Gaming Plus, Pro-VDH, Pro-VD, Pro-VH, Pro-D, Pro-VHL, Pro-VL

 

Tier W: Workstation (i7, i9)

Asus: WS Pro, WS Sage

Supermicro: CGW-O

 

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Hardwareluxx.de: VRM parts table (AM4 B350/X370/B450/X470)

 

/u/CR1318 on reddit: Motherboard Tier List

 

Tweaktown: biostar x370gt7; biostar x370gtn gaming; biostar a320mh pro gaming

 

Buildzoid: Gigabyte's Z390 lineup; Asrock X470 Master SLI; Asrock AB350M Pro 4, AB350 Pro 4 and AB350 Gaming K4; ASUS Prime X470-Pro; Asrock X370 Taichi; MSI X470 Gaming Plus; MSI B450M Mortar Titanium; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme; ASUS Maximus XI Apex; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra; MSI MEG X399 Creation; Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi; ASUS TUF B450M-Pro Gaming; ASUS TUF B450M-Pro Gaming; Asrock X470 Master SLI / Gaming K4; "Asrock X470 Master SLI VRM temperature sensing is broken"; EVGA Z370 Micro; Gigabyte B450M Gaming; EVGA Z390 FTW; Gigabyte X370 Gaming K5; Asrock X570 Pro4; Asus X570 Strix-E; Gigabyte x570; MSI x570; Asrock x570; Asus x570; Asus X570 Prime-P; Asus X570 Strix-F; Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra; Gigabyte X570 Gaming X;

 

GN (Buidzoid): Best Motherboards for AMD Ryzen 2018 - AM4 X470 & B450; Best Z390 Motherboards for VRMs, 10Gb LAN, Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX (2018); Best AM4 Motherboards for Overclocking (X370 & B350); EVGA X299 DARK; MSI Z390 Godlike; ASUS Maximus XI Hero; ASUS Crosshair VI Hero X370; ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme; EVGA X299 DARK

 

Bitwit: Biostar Racing X370 GTN

 

Sebelas Hardware: Biostar Racing X370 GT3

 

hardwareinside.de: biostar-racing x370gt5

 

play3r.net: biostar racing x370gt5

 

back2gaming.com: biostar racing b350gt5

 

Proclockers: biostar h310mhd pro

 

Are there any other mb i can combine with 9900k? 

[M.R_KING]

Hello
Can you tell me which motherboard is stable on powerful processors
like
Ryzen 5 3600

ryzen 5 3600x
Ryzen 7 3700x

the b450 aorus elite

the b450 gaming plus max

that's what i get in my contry available Because we don't have many models of mb in my country

and our pc parts prices is somewhat expensive

with the price of gaming plus max i can get a tomahawk max but we don't have it now
And also tell me which is better for stability, overclocking, vrm and cooling in vrm
i mean what is the maximum cpu that can run it without temperatures problems
sorry for my little bad english

[Jurrunio]

@M.R_KING gaming plus max is better for performance. Stability depends on software so keeping those updated matters, not the board itself (but includes the board's BIOS, which is its software).

[Yuka1981]

Hi all.

 

In list motherboard from MSI have different category but all MB have the same VRM. I writing about Z370 Krait Gaming, Z370 Tomahawk, Z370 SLI Plus

 

Personally, I have Z370 SLI Plus. Information I take from https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/threads/lga-1151-mainboard-vrm-liste.1175784/

 

 

Qestion is Z370 SLI Plus Tier C or Tier B ?

Thanks.  

[M.R_KING]

22 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

@M.R_KING gaming plus max is better for performance. Stability depends on software so keeping those updated matters, not the board itself (but includes the board's BIOS, which is its software).

what do you mean by software؟؟؟

you mean the power of motherboard of handling the cpu

or you mean updating the bios when updates coming

or what؟؟؟

[M.R_KING]

Just now, M.R_KING said:

what do you mean by software؟؟؟

you mean the power of motherboard of handling the cpu

or you mean updating the bios when updates coming

or what؟؟؟

and can i run ryzen 7 3700x on b450 gaming plus max and overclock it

or the maximum is ryzen 5 3600 with overclocking؟؟؟

and if you recommend me the b450 gaming plus max

so the b450 aorus elite is bad or what؟؟؟

 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

what do you mean by software؟؟؟

you asked about stability, that depends on the software, like the bios (which is the software for the board essentially.).

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

and can i run ryzen 7 3700x on b450 gaming plus max and overclock it

the board will handle it just fine, though ryzen does not have a bug headroom for overdclocking, enable pbo and then focus on memory overclocking.

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

so the b450 aorus elite is bad or what؟؟؟

it's worse than the gaming plus.

 

also quick note.

this is the new list, so check it rather than this list.

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, M.R_KING said:

what do you mean by software؟؟؟

BIOS and drivers. Dont use "monitoring" software like NZXT CAM or Asus Armour Crate if you can help it as well

[M.R_KING]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

you asked about stability, that depends on the software, like the bios (which is the software for the board essentially.).

the board will handle it just fine, though ryzen does not have a bug headroom for overdclocking, enable pbo and then focus on memory overclocking.

it's worse than the gaming plus.

 

also quick note.

this is the new list, so check it rather than this list.

yes i'm checking and asking on the new tier list

[M.R_KING]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

you asked about stability, that depends on the software, like the bios (which is the software for the board essentially.).

the board will handle it just fine, though ryzen does not have a bug headroom for overdclocking, enable pbo and then focus on memory overclocking.

it's worse than the gaming plus.

 

also quick note.

this is the new list, so check it rather than this list.

my friend can you explain to me what is pbo؟؟؟؟

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

what is pbo؟؟؟؟

essentially an auto overclock to the cpu. 

and is just as good as a manual in most cases, since ryzen does not have a big headroom for overclocking, overclocking memory is more beneficial.

[M.R_KING]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

essentially an auto overclock to the cpu. 

and is just as good as a manual in most cases, since ryzen does not have a big headroom for overclocking, overclocking memory is more beneficial.

so why people and youtubers love overclocking t manualy if they can do it aotumaticly

and why i focused on overclocking memory if i can just enable xmp and done

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

and why i focused on overclocking memory if i can just enable xmp and done

xmp will run the advertised speeds of the kit, you could go further with manual.

 

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

so why people and youtubers love overclocking t manualy if they can do it aotumaticly

as i said, pbo usually does the same thing, though not always, not sure what videos you're referring to though. 

[M.R_KING]

18 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

xmp will run the advertised speeds of the kit, you could go further with manual.

 

as i said, pbo usually does the same thing, though not always, not sure what videos you're referring to though. 

so the gaming plus max you can overclock the memory on it normally؟؟

because some motherboards the overclock of memory on it is sucks

blue screens and problems etc.....

so this motherboard is good in terms of overclocking memory

and the videos i mean by overclocking the cpu

its the manual overclocking

they change the cpu ratio and the volt manualy

you got the point

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

so the gaming plus max you can overclock the memory on it normally؟؟

it can handle it, it depends on a lot of factors, but the board is fine for it.

 

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

blue screens and problems etc.....

that does not mean that it's the board, instability is normal when overclocking, it's a trial and error process.

depends on the memory IC's, the imc of the cpu and the board's topology, and the board is fine.

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

you got the point

yes.

[M.R_KING]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

it can handle it, it depends on a lot of factors, but the board is fine for it.

 

that does not mean that it's the board, instability is normal when overclocking, it's a trial and error process.

depends on the memory IC's, the imc of the cpu and the board's topology, and the board is fine.

yes.

what is the memory ic's and the imc؟؟

i'm sorry if i ask a lot of questions and i boring you or I I bothered you

i thought myself i'm unstoppable in hardware and i know everything

when i come to this website and start see what is in it

i'm shocked

i see informations and Terms i see it first time in my life

I discovered that I am a noob xd

not noob but you can say between good and semi pro

i know lot of things about hardware but i don't know the Very accurate technical terms you know what i mean

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

what is the memory ic's and the imc؟؟

ic's are essentially the dram on the stick.

imc is the integrated memory controller.

[M.R_KING]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

ic's are essentially the dram on the stick.

imc is the integrated memory controller.

thanks a lot for your help man❤

i appreciate your help

[M.R_KING]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

ic's are essentially the dram on the stick.

imc is the integrated memory controller.

do you thiks the b450 gaming plus max is overkill for ryzen 3 3100

i want this board for future proofing so i can upgrade my parts to something better

i can get the b450 ds3h with ryzen 3 3100 and it will works fine

but i want something for future because i will not stick on my parts for ever

 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

do you thiks the b450 gaming plus max is overkill for ryzen 3 3100

Not really i guess. 

im running a board with 10 sic639's (50a drmos.) for a 3100, which is really overkill but i don't really care.

10 hours ago, M.R_KING said:

i can get the b450 ds3h with ryzen 3 3100 and it will works fine

it will, but the ds3h well isn't really the best board, the gaming plus will work nicely.

[M.R_KING]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Not really i guess. 

im running a board with 10 sic639's (50a drmos.) for a 3100, which is really overkill but i don't really care.

it will, but the ds3h well isn't really the best board, the gaming plus will work nicely.

Yes, that's why I choose b450 gaming plus max instead of b450 ds3h