Wattage troubles

[Ciaccio_47]

I am building a somewhat high end pc and I’m not sure what psu to get cooler master says I should get a 1000w psu but I don’t think that’s correct here are the parts:

 

Ryzen 7 2700x

rtx 2070

Hyperx ddr4 3200mhz ram

120gb ssd 

2tb hdd 7200 rpm

x370 msi gaming plus motherboard

NZXT h500i case w/ rgb strip

1440p 144hz gsync monitor

 

please help and thank you

[Spotty]

11 minutes ago, Ciaccio_47 said:

Ryzen 7 2700x

rtx 2070

Hyperx ddr4 3200mhz ram

120gb ssd 

2tb HD’s 7200 rpm

x370 msi gaming plus motherboard

NZXT h500i case w/ rob strip

1440p 144hz gsync monitor

Like, 300w?

 

12 minutes ago, Ciaccio_47 said:

cooler master says I should get a 1000w psu

Lol

[aezakmi]

550W

I can only wait for the day when those damn "calculators" are permanently deleted.

 

Also you should really REALLY get another case if you're going for a 2070 (1080/Ti would be cheaper and better tho) look for something with airflow, like the Meshify C which for me looks kinda hideous but it's one of the few post 2016 cases that doesn't looks like a fridge and has airflow.

There are also a few old Corsair cases that might work too but you'd need to go to the used market for those and tbh getting an used case is always a bad idea (scratches, fractures, missing or malfunctioning parts like buttons or fans, etc)

[DailyProcrastinator]

Wow Cooler Master..... Bunch of criminals lol, don't give them your money, a 550W unit would be just fine. Get something like an EVGA G2 or G3, SeaSonic Focus Gold, or Corsair RMx series.

[Ciaccio_47]

17 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Wow Cooler Master..... Bunch of criminals lol, don't give them your money, a 550W unit would be just fine. Get something like an EVGA G2 or G3, SeaSonic Focus Gold, or Corsair RMx series.

Thank you I was about to spend $140 on a psu

[Shyam Ganapathy]

24 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Like, 300w?

 

Lol

300w would be too low for this build.

[Ciaccio_47]

21 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

550W

I can only wait for the day when those damn "calculators" are permanently deleted.

 

Also you should really REALLY get another case if you're going for a 2070 (1080/Ti would be cheaper and better tho) look for something with airflow, like the Meshify C which for me looks kinda hideous but it's one of the few post 2016 cases that doesn't looks like a fridge and has airflow.

There are also a few old Corsair cases that might work too but you'd need to go to the used market for those and tbh getting an used case is always a bad idea (scratches, fractures, missing or malfunctioning parts like buttons or fans, etc)

Thank you so much but I think I might keep the 2070 because it has ray tracing for when game devs. start implementing that into their games and I have been looking for a better case so thank you

[DailyProcrastinator]

Just now, Ciaccio_47 said:

Thank you I was about to spend $140 on a psu

Yeah, that is ridiculous, under max load that system will proabably only draw like 350W. That is the craziest overestimate I have ever seen from a "PSU Calculator" if you can call it that, more like a "Cooler Master Revenue Calculator".

[Spotty]

3 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

300w would be too low for this build.

I was talking about system power consumption, not the wattage of the PSU...

Decent 450/550w PSU would be good.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

Just now, Spotty said:

I was talking about system power consumption, not the wattage of the PSU...

Decent 450/550w PSU would be good.

Sorry, my bad for the misunderstanding

[Ciaccio_47]

Oh ok I’m sorry and thank you again that is what the other people said as well and it was not your misunderstanding it was mine

[SpaceGhostC2C]

44 minutes ago, Ciaccio_47 said:

cooler master says I should get a 1000w psu but I don’t think that’s correct

 

29 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

550W

I can only wait for the day when those damn "calculators" are permanently deleted.

 

27 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Wow Cooler Master..... Bunch of criminals lol, don't give them your money, a 550W unit would be just fine

 

Well, before we get the pitchforks out: this seems to be a "Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard" case. The actual result for this build in CM's calculator is 405W, and they recommend a 455W PSU.

So, for a bunch of thieves, they actually recommend lower wattage than some of you...

[Ciaccio_47]

1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

 

 

 

Well, before we get the pitchforks out: this seems to be a "Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard" case. The actual result for this build in CM's calculator is 405W, and they recommend a 455W PSU.

So, for a bunch of thieves, they actually recommend lower wattage than some of you...

For all the items I put in it recommended me a 1000w psu but hey you may be right

[SpaceGhostC2C]

1 minute ago, Ciaccio_47 said:

For all the items I put in it recommended me a 1000w psu but hey you may be right

You have to check what you put it, you probably made a mistake there. For the list of parts you provided the result is 405W, 416W if you manually change it to 100% TDP, 24/7 on, 455-460W PSU recommended in any case.

[Ciaccio_47]

8 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

You have to check what you put it, you probably made a mistake there. For the list of parts you provided the result is 405W, 416W if you manually change it to 100% TDP, 24/7 on, 455-460W PSU recommended in any case.

I put it on 90% and 8 hours

[Ciaccio_47]

I feel very very stupid, I had the overvoltage up to 50% so thank you every one and SpaceGhostC2C you are right

[hello_there_123]

Whisper M or RMX 2018 550W

 

EVGA and Seasonic units aren't usually worth it for their price because EVGA's G2 and G3 series are worse than both, same thing with Seasonic Focus/Focus+. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 hour ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Well, before we get the pitchforks out: this seems to be a "Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard" case. The actual result for this build in CM's calculator is 405W, and they recommend a 455W PSU.

So, for a bunch of thieves, they actually recommend lower wattage than some of you...

 

*Cooler Master Employee

[Rexper]

The Cooler Master PSU calculator is just a relabelled OuterVision calculator.

It's pretty inaccurate.

Overestimates the load wattage, then overestimates the recommended wattage, then recommends a PSU with even higher wattage. It turns into a mess.

 

But you can get a somewhat relevant reading from the OuterVision calculator. Input your parts as usual, but the only output you need is the 12V rating. This is usually a  balanced PSU wattage.

 

For example, plugging your build into the OuterVision calculator without overclocks, I suggest a high quality 340w PSU, as that's the estimated 12V load.

 

High quality is important. There are so many more beneficial factors in a power supply than wattage - Electrical performance, input filter, build quality, protections, noise, efficiency, size and aesthetics, cables, and price.

 

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

5 hours ago, JM21 said:

Wow Cooler Master..... Bunch of 

Naa, it ain't Cooler Master.

Its that "Outervision" shit thing that they use...

 

IIRC Cooler Master was one of the first to use it. Enermax was before them though, don't know if they still use it...

[Ciaccio_47]

7 hours ago, hello_there_123 said:

Whisper M or RMX 2018 550W

 

EVGA and Seasonic units aren't usually worth it for their price because EVGA's G2 and G3 series are worse than both, same thing with Seasonic Focus/Focus+. 

A modular rmx 550w is the same price for a modular 550w EVGA g3 psu

[Spotty]

18 minutes ago, Ciaccio_47 said:

A modular rmx 550w is the same price for a modular 550w EVGA g3 psu

Buy the RMx then. Working protections and better fan.

[Ciaccio_47]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

Buy the RMx then. Working protections and better fan.

I am

[SpaceGhostC2C]

11 hours ago, JM21 said:

*Cooler Master Employee

Verifiable fact: the PSU calculator (which, as pointed by @Rexper, is not made by CoolerMaster) delivers reasonable results (and OP already clarified that he made a mistake using it).

Unfounded speculation: the guy stating this fact is a CM employee (which also happens to be false)

 

The worst part is that even if I was a CM affiliate, it would still be true that the output of the PSU calculator is not 1000W and everyone was talking based on a misconception, without checking for themselves.

So, all you have is both a fallacy and a lie in teh same sentence, rather than owing up to making a mistake or jumping too hastily to conclusions. Brilliant.

Now go to your room, the grownups are trying to have a conversation and you're past your bedtime.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

9 hours ago, Rexper said:

The Cooler Master PSU calculator is just a relabelled OuterVision calculator.

It's pretty inaccurate.

 

I knew I had used an unbranded version, but thought CM had bought them out - no I have the original link again

In my experience, however, the results were always pretty accurate. One just need to understand that the maximum load is a worst case scenario, but it doesn't recommend a wattage much higher than that anyways (for example, back in the day the OuterVision calculator recommended a 750W PSU for a system that, ex post, was pulling 450-500W from the wall while a gaming, so it landed right in the sweet spot for efficiency. The specific model recommendations were more random, though).