Is threadripper still worth it?

[Bfuqua]

So I'm in the process of beginning to build my first high-end gaming PC, and I'm having trouble deciding what CPU to go with. 

 

I'm torn between a Ryzen 1950X, and an Intel i7 8700K. 

 

The threadripper has quad channel memory, so that's automatically better than the i7's duel channel, but does that really make a noticable difference in game? I'm mainly a console gamer, so I've never really had to think much about this stuff.

 

(By the way, the games I'm definitely planning on playing are black ops 4, just cause 4, and eventually cyberpunk 2077, if that gives you an idea of the kind of stuff I'll be playing.)

 

I guess my biggest question would be is the Ryzen worth the extra cost? I'm willing to spend more if it'll really make a difference, but I honestly have no idea. 

 

Quick side note, I hear crysis is STILL hard to run on lower end systems. Is that true? And what about crysis 3?

[Crunchy Dragon]

According to UserBenchmark: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-1950X/3937vs3932

 

Threadripper 1950X is 1% better than the 8700K in gaming.

Bear in mind X399 and quad channel DDR4 is more expensive than Z370 and dual channel DDR4.

Threadripper has a higher power draw as well, and coolers are more expensive.

 

So I would not consider the higher price worth it for just 1% in gaming performance.

[Exaco]

Threadripper main benefit imo is lots of PCI lanes, so u can throw in like x10 GPU's. 
For gaming its overkill and waste of $. 

[Jurrunio]

Nah, 8700k beats Ryzens in most games that actually care about CPU performance because of stronger single core compute power. Extra memory channels cant compensate for that.

 

Crysis uses pretty much 1 or 2 cores at most, while Crysis 3 seems to use 4 cores. Today you can run Crysis on budget machines, but dont expect it to be perfectly smooth

[CapitalistVN]

1950X has a extreme value but only when comparing to Intel HEDTs, say a i9-9980XE.

When compared to the mainstreams such as the 8700K in gaming, it got annihilated.

[Streetguru]

13 minutes ago, Bfuqua said:

 

What are you using the PC for?

What monitor resolution/refresh rate for gaming?

What budget/country?

[APasz]

For the gaming the threadripper was never really worth it. It wasn't supposed to be.

For gaming only, Zen or Intels i3/i5/i7's. If you were say streaming as well, or doing cpu rendering, or just heaps of different things at the same time, then threadripper starts to make sense.

[Spotty]

28 minutes ago, Bfuqua said:

high-end gaming PC

No, Threadripper is not worth it for gaming. It's a productivity CPU, not a gaming CPU. Get the 8700k (or 8700, 9700k, etc) and put the money you save towards a better graphics card or monitor.

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor	$548.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$129.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard	$294.98 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$239.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1263.85
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$1213.85
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-18 22:44 EST-0500

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$369.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$89.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	EVGA - Z370 Classified K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$178.78 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$758.65
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$748.65
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-18 22:46 EST-0500

 

[Ertman]

In gaming Intel still out performs AMD at the high end. Limited threads used in gaming, better IPC and better optimizations puts intel ahead.

 

If you are just using it for gaming then intel is the CPU you, more so if you pair it with a higher end GPU.

 

with your expected usage you won’t likely make use of the extra threads threadRipper provides and it ends up being a waste of funds.

[GoldenLag]

i wouldnt use a threadripper for a gaming system due to it being hedt and is aimed at hedt aswell. what is your budget? that is the deciding factor in choosing components

[Bfuqua]

Budget isn't really a big deal. If it winds up costing $3000, then it winds up costing $3000. It'll take me like 4 or 5 months to buy all the components, but it's not a big deal. 

 

I'm looking at getting at least a gtx1080. Maybe even a 1080ti. At least 32Gb of DDR4 3400, with possible plans to expand to 64Gb down the line. 

 

I've heard Ryzen is better for productivity, and that's part of why I was considering it. My current inernet connection is no where near good enough for streaming, but I'm trying to fix that. If I can get better internet, then I'd like to start streaming.