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Facebook employees use burner phones to talk about the company amongst themselves without being tracked

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Easy solution. Leave. I’m sure if you have the skills and reputation to work at Facebook you can find another morally better company to work for

 

3 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Why the fuck are they working for Facebook then?

They'll have fun getting blacklisted.

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How else will Big Brother Zuck be able to keep all the workers safe from all the misinformation out there if he can't listen in on them 24/7?

 

Zuck-senpai is angered by this betrayal...

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Velcade said:

FB would get the info through their app or through a FB controlled network.  If you are using your company's app or network you would be naive to assume your traffic isn't monitored. 

any wiretapping of employee's communications that are not about business or are not made with the business property is illegal federally.

In addition, companies who wiretap company phones are supposed to stop wiretapping in the event of personal information, even though its on the company phone. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about companies wiretapping personal cell phones using the apps you cannot remove from the phone.

It's not legal, but facebook will get away with it.

Also, CA is a two party consent state.

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In other news.  I'd love for the excuse to just straight up go back to a flip phone again. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, LordOTaco said:

In other news.  I'd love for the excuse to just straight up go back to a flip phone again. 

I'd love to do a slider, but shit like 2fa and phones needing apps to even fucking work have forced me to carry a smartphone.

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32 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

I'd love to do a slider, but shit like 2fa and phones needing apps to even fucking work have forced me to carry a smartphone.

I had a dual slider back in the day that could slide one way for the num pad and the other way for the full qwerty keyboard.

 

 

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I think this might be a reason for consumers to fight to have the ability to remove facebook completely from their phones being forced to all the different carriers.

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1 hour ago, Taf the Ghost said:

You make the assumption that Facebook *isn't* a government entity. That's the first mistake.

Not sure. Is Sillicon Valley a gov too??? ?

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2 minutes ago, CTR640 said:

Not sure. Is Sillicon Valley a gov too??? ?

The CIA has a Tech Investment VC fund. In-Q-Tel. They have a website.

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2 hours ago, SupremeGOAT said:

ear your boss... especially when he rolls hard like zuckerburg 

Everytime I see see Zuckerberg, I get more sure that Alex Jones was right about lizard people being here, just not correct on who the lizard people are.

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1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Everytime I see see Zuckerberg, I get more sure that Alex Jones was right about lizard people being here, just not correct on who the lizard people are.

I believe the lizard people is a Harold Ickes talking point, though he's a guest of Jones. Interdimensional vampires is I believe Jones' take.

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2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

 Interdimensional vampires is I believe Jones' take.

DIE YOU MONSTER!  YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD!

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, AngryBeaver said:

If I want to talk shit to a friend or fellow co-worker about my company in a PRIVATE conversation then they really don't have much to stand on for disciplinary action. If I talk shit about them in a public way like social media, the news, etc... then they DO have the ability to discipline for that. If they are able to see/hear my private communications then that is a entirely new problem and crosses the line on all counts. The only reason what they do right now isn't illegal is because it isn't tied to your PII. If it is found out they can actually identify you via that information then there is a huge can of worms about to be opened... hopefully right before the can of whoop ass the government will open on them next.

They can still stop you getting promoted without ever telling you why.

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1 minute ago, Monkey Dust said:

They can still stop you getting promoted without ever telling you why.

In my profession that would just make sure I switch companies. Which I am surprised more are doing right now with facebook.

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2 hours ago, bowrilla said:

Well, I wouldn't trust a phone with facebook installed on it to be safe from facebook's ears. A phone without facebook that doesn't log into the companie's networks is pretty safe from any legal and semi-legal tracking. Beyond that facebook would screw themselves hard if they did hack non-company phones that never logged into their network. You don't need burner phones for this purpose. Just don't use or even install WhatsApp, Facebook and the Facebook Messenger App... and Instagram and Twitter. Though you should be safe using any other encrypted messenger app on a non-company phone if facebook isn't severely breaking several laws.

I wouldn't trust a phone without Facebook installed to be safe from Facebook's ears.

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...use whatsapp? End to end encryption, so unless they LITERALLY wire their personal phones, they will have privacy?

 

Am I missing something here? Not a security expert on the slighstest, but it sounds weird to me.

Ultra is stupid. ALWAYS.

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2 hours ago, bowrilla said:

Well, I wouldn't trust a phone with facebook installed on it to be safe from facebook's ears. A phone without facebook that doesn't log into the companie's networks is pretty safe from any legal and semi-legal tracking. Beyond that facebook would screw themselves hard if they did hack non-company phones that never logged into their network. You don't need burner phones for this purpose. Just don't use or even install WhatsApp, Facebook and the Facebook Messenger App... and Instagram and Twitter. Though you should be safe using any other encrypted messenger app on a non-company phone if facebook isn't severely breaking several laws.

You dont know what agreements facebook has for data sharing between different apps. Heck facebook may even own stakes in 100s of apps through their VCs.

 

I think the facebook employees are well aware of this and thus are using burner phones. Heck they are facebook engineers. I would guess they are smarter than the average schmuck.

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Why are we trying to defend this? This is abhorrent. If you want to speak out against your company you’re allowed to do so, especially on your own time and device. FB should not be mining anyone’s personal data except that which is found and put into the FB app or its other apps. 

 

Leaving the company shouldn’t be the only option to this situation. Whistleblowers are protected by law. If Facebook lets go of or discriminates against an employee using their personal phone should lead to FB being fined. 

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Easy solution. Leave. I’m sure if you have the skills and reputation to work at Facebook you can find another morally better company to work for

You know the world's messed up when the most morally sound giant company I can think of in the same area is Apple. 

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1 minute ago, RorzNZ said:

You know the world's messed up when the most morally sound giant company I can think of in the same area is Apple. 

Why is that messed up? Apple sells a product that costs money. Facebook is free so the product it sells is you

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Why is that messed up? Apple sells a product that costs money. Facebook is free so the product it sells is you

Few years ago they were in trouble for very dodgy working conditions in China. Now its the other way around. 

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idk why i thought this was about mcdonalds... i read facebook but comprehended mcdonalds, as i read it i pictured it happening in mcdonalds... then i saw the zucc pic then i was like “ohhhhh... facebook”

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24 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Few years ago they were in trouble for very dodgy working conditions in China. Now its the other way around. 

Lol every company in China has horrible working conditions. Foxconn and others don't just make things for Apple. Used to be Philippine sweat shops for clothes

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