Is AMD really working on some 7nm gpu???

[DhruvGhayal]

I having RX 480 for a while now and I want to upgrade it, I want to do 4k gaming now, so I want to buy new monitor with g-sync or free-sync depending on my future gpu, but I am confuse between Nvidia and AMD...

So is it better to wait for future AMD gpu or better to buy rtx 2070??

[Derrk]

buy a used 1080 ti

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, DhruvGhayal said:

I having RX 480 for a while now and I want to upgrade it, I want to do 4k gaming now, so I want to buy new monitor with g-sync or free-sync depending on my future gpu, but I am confuse between Nvidia and AMD...

So is it better to wait for future AMD gpu or better to buy rtx 2070??

What games in 4k? You can just run games at 1080p with perfect scaling until 4k GPUs are like $499

 

Used 1080ti is your best bet for now, just don't waste any money on G-sync, any of the free-sync IPS 4k displays will be fine.

7nm AMD GPUs consumer will be announced at computex maybe
 

 

[pstarlord]

Wait until after CES.  AMD is expected to release their next gen of GPU, Navi.  From all the projections most people are thinking it'll land somewhere between the 1080Ti and the 2080TI in terms of performance.  (These expectations are based off of the % of increases between other AMD cards to the next)  And it's price is expected to be "more reasonable" for whatever that means. haha. 

 

 

[TheRaggingSword]

1 hour ago, DhruvGhayal said:

So is it better to wait for future AMD gpu or better to buy rtx 2070??

If you really want to wait you can but you never know if they delay for 3 years like intel. If you want it now, don't get an RTX 2070. Right now, 10 series graphics cards are really cheap and will offer way better value than RTX.

[xg32]

1 hour ago, DhruvGhayal said:

I having RX 480 for a while now and I want to upgrade it, I want to do 4k gaming now, so I want to buy new monitor with g-sync or free-sync depending on my future gpu, but I am confuse between Nvidia and AMD...

So is it better to wait for future AMD gpu or better to buy rtx 2070??

dont trust amd with high end gpu launches. remember all the fake numbers that were tossed out during the vega launch? also a 2070 will only do 4k if you turn down the settings in AAA titles.

[CTR640]

AMD 7nm GPU's are highly likely for deep learning bullshit or some other scientific crap. So don't hold your breath.

AMD hasn't been really much into the game anymore in the high-end gamers GPU.

 

Like the other guy said: your best bet is a used 1080Ti. RTX is worthless crap and you paying extra just to have your shit ray traced.

I was hyped and waiting for 2080Ti and ended up with a better choice: 1080Ti.

[SSJGodemis]

1 hour ago, CTR640 said:

AMD 7nm GPU's are highly likely for deep learning bullshit or some other scientific crap. So don't hold your breath.

AMD hasn't been really much into the game anymore in the high-end gamers GPU.

 

Like the other guy said: your best bet is a used 1080Ti. RTX is worthless crap and you paying extra just to have your shit ray traced.

I was hyped and waiting for 2080Ti and ended up with a better choice: 1080Ti.

The Vega 64 performs right up there with a GTX 1080/RTX 2070 for $399 and 3 free games. It's still very competitive at that price point .

 

7nm isn't just for some scientific crap. It is literally allowing to allow for more rasterzation with better thermals and energy consumption. From all that's been leaked so far, it's going to be 10% faster than the 1080 Ti/RTX 2080. At least that's the hope. 

 

 

[TahoeDust]

15 minutes ago, SSJGodemis said:

7nm isn't just for some scientific crap. It is literally allowing to allow for more rasterzation with better thermals and energy consumption. From all that's been leaked so far, it's going to be 10% faster than the 1080 Ti/RTX 2080. At least that's the hope. 

 

If the "hope" is that AMD's huge 7nm leap results in their flagship card only being 10% faster than a 1080ti (~!5% slower than 2080ti) I will be disappointed.  I was always a AMD guy until Maxwell, since then they have not really competed. 

[andrewmp6]

Have you priced a 4k g-sync monitor tho ?

[Phentos]

1 hour ago, TahoeDust said:

 

If the "hope" is that AMD's huge 7nm leap results in their flagship card only being 10% faster than a 1080ti (~!5% slower than 2080ti) I will be disappointed.  I was always a AMD guy until Maxwell, since then they have not really competed. 

I'm of the same opinion. Once Pascal came out that kind of sealed the deal on the high end. Even now nothing from AMD touches the 1080TI, let alone any RTX card above the 2070.

 

I'm not really expecting that paradigm to change. 

[TahoeDust]

10 hours ago, andrewmp6 said:

Have you priced a 4k g-sync monitor tho ?

Yes.  Personally I think 3440x1440 100Hz is a better gaming experience.  Even the 2080ti does not have the power to make 4k smooth enough for most gamers taste.

[anthonyc813]

Read this on my google feed this morning... wish I would of waited before buying a Vega. D'oh!

[DhruvGhayal]

What about this thing

[andrewmp6]

On 12/5/2018 at 12:22 PM, TahoeDust said:

Yes.  Personally I think 3440x1440 100Hz is a better gaming experience.  Even the 2080ti does not have the power to make 4k smooth enough for most gamers taste.

Yeah 4k gaming to me would take 2 high end cards to get a playable frame rate.I'm with you on 1440p its a better gaming option to me and cheaper.

[andrewmp6]

On 12/5/2018 at 6:42 PM, DhruvGhayal said:

What about this thing

Like anything new wait tell reviews to the see the truth.I do love amd but both side have over hyped/marketed new stuff a lot lately.Even the vega 64 is what 100 us over its mrsp should be.

[RejZoR]

On 12/5/2018 at 1:40 AM, pstarlord said:

Wait until after CES.  AMD is expected to release their next gen of GPU, Navi.  From all the projections most people are thinking it'll land somewhere between the 1080Ti and the 2080TI in terms of performance.  (These expectations are based off of the % of increases between other AMD cards to the next)  And it's price is expected to be "more reasonable" for whatever that means. haha. 

 

 

You can be assured it won't. Navi is expected to be a mainstream product (a replacement for RX590 basically) with performance around GTX 1080. The big one is not coming anytime soon. The naming scheme is retarded too. Come on, RX 3080? Really?

Edited December 8, 2018 by RejZoR

[pstarlord]

7 hours ago, RejZoR said:

You can be assured it won't. Navi is expected to be a mainstream product (a replacement for RX590 basically) with performance around GTX 1080. The big one is not coming anytime soon. The naming scheme is retarded too. Come on, RX 3080? Really?

No where have I seen or read that Navi isn't going to be a replacement for Vega, where are you seeing that it's a replacement for the 590? 

[Turtle Rig]

They probably have 5nm down,, except they gotta milk it first,, then release that in 2021 etc.

[Fasauceome]

On 12/4/2018 at 6:40 PM, pstarlord said:

Wait until after CES.  AMD is expected to release their next gen of GPU, Navi.  From all the projections most people are thinking it'll land somewhere between the 1080Ti and the 2080TI in terms of performance.  (These expectations are based off of the % of increases between other AMD cards to the next)  And it's price is expected to be "more reasonable" for whatever that means. haha. 

 

 

If it's high tier, where do their best products fit in? Will Vega replace Polaris?

[pstarlord]

7 hours ago, fasauceome said:

If it's high tier, where do their best products fit in? Will Vega replace Polaris?

With the most current leaks, the three Navi cards will essentially be Vega 56, Vega 64 replacements, and then one that is higher tier than Vega 64.  Vega might get completely replaced as the GTX cards did from Nvidia.

[Fasauceome]

37 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

With the most current leaks, the three Navi cards will essentially be Vega 56, Vega 64 replacements, and then one that is higher tier than Vega 64.  Vega might get completely replaced as the GTX cards did from Nvidia.

It would be really interesting, because if the Ryzen rumors are true too, that would mean Vega would be relegated to integrated graphics solutions.

Also, polaris needs to be replaced too. Maybe they'll move Vega 16, 20, etc out of just MacBooks.

[pstarlord]

3 hours ago, fasauceome said:

It would be really interesting, because if the Ryzen rumors are true too, that would mean Vega would be relegated to integrated graphics solutions.

Also, polaris needs to be replaced too. Maybe they'll move Vega 16, 20, etc out of just MacBooks.

That's very true, but with the 7nm chips that Zen 2 and Navi are supposed to be on, using Navi in in APU's and laptops would be a more viable option wouldn't you think?  

[Stefan Payne]

On 12/5/2018 at 12:46 AM, DhruvGhayal said:

So is it better to wait for future AMD gpu or better to buy rtx 2070??

Its better to support the open/free Standard that is accepted by VESA and HDMI Consortium and not the proprietary Garbage (G-Sync).

And the 7nm GPUs will arrive mid/end 2019, so around 6 Months away.

 

But remember:
"Freesync" (=Marketing Name for the Standard) cost nothing.

G-Sync is between 200 and 500€ more, on top of the Screen.

[Stefan Payne]

On 12/5/2018 at 4:23 AM, CTR640 said:

AMD 7nm GPU's are highly likely for deep learning bullshit or some other scientific crap. So don't hold your breath.

Where did you get that crap?

On 12/5/2018 at 4:23 AM, CTR640 said:

AMD hasn't been really much into the game anymore in the high-end gamers GPU.

Yes, because people always have to buy nVidia, even if they are more expensive or worse.

For example GTX 680 vs. Radeon HD7970.

You can continue on and on with that.

Or take the RX470/480/570/580 vs. GTX 1060.

People rather buy the crap 3GiB 1060 instead of a way better AMD Card...

 

On 12/5/2018 at 5:39 AM, SSJGodemis said:

The Vega 64 performs right up there with a GTX 1080/RTX 2070 for $399 and 3 free games. It's still very competitive at that price point .

Exactly.
But people ignore that, look at badly optimized or Gameworks infested crap and claim that nVidia is better...

Yeah, no.

 

How about this:

https://gamegpu.com/rpg/ролевые/ni-no-kuni-ii-revenant-kingdom-test-gpu-cpu

https://gamegpu.com/racing-simulators-/-гонки/forza-horizon-4-demo-test-gpu-cpu

 

THAT is how it looks without that proprietary nVidia Crap inside a game, when its optimized for AMD GPU.

GTX1080 looses big, VEGA shines.

 

Oh and look at GTX680 vs. 7970. You often see 20 or 50% difference and the 680 fights with the 7870 in many modern games...

On 12/5/2018 at 5:39 AM, SSJGodemis said:

7nm isn't just for some scientific crap. It is literally allowing to allow for more rasterzation with better thermals and energy consumption. From all that's been leaked so far, it's going to be 10% faster than the 1080 Ti/RTX 2080. At least that's the hope.

Exactly

They are normal "gaming chips", the 7nm Chip you can buy right now is HPC/Workstation stuff.

But Navi won't be...

On 12/5/2018 at 7:34 AM, Phentos said:

I'm of the same opinion. Once Pascal came out that kind of sealed the deal on the high end. Even now nothing from AMD touches the 1080TI, let alone any RTX card above the 2070.

 

I'm not really expecting that paradigm to change. 

You're wrong, check the links I've posted.

If the Software would be optimized well for AMD like Forza Horizon 4 is, VEGA would eat the Pascal ones.

 

And even if AMD had something, would you buy it?!

Or a couple of cards.

Would you?