RTX 2080Ti with Kraken G12, low performance.

[saeedsaf]

Hi there,

 

I just mounted a G12 coupled with a Kraken X62 on my Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080Ti Xtreme and it's driving me crazy, temps reach a max of 55 degrees under heavy usage, and clock speed hit 1900 MHz. However, my card's performance has taken a heavy hit, my FPS in BFV has dropped from 120 to a mere 70. Multiple other games have suffered too, and I can't really figure out what's causing this.

 

I would appreciate if you could help me here.

 

Regards,

 

Saeed

[immaguy1234]

Can you list your CPU and your old CPU cooler setup?

[Velcade]

 A picture of your kraken setup would be helpful.  I'm wondering if you're not cooling the VRM/RAM properly.  

[saeedsaf]

I'm just using the stock fan in the Kraken G12.

[RozRocks]

Do you have ray tracing on? That could give you a performance hit near 50% and that recently got enabled, it was not there at launch. If ray tracing is on turn it off and check your fps.

[saeedsaf]

2 minutes ago, immaguy1234 said:

Can you list your CPU and your old CPU cooler setup?

Here's my config: 

 

CPU: Intel 8700K

CPU Cooler: Kraken x62

RAM: Hyper-X Fury 

PSU: Corsair CX750M

GPU: Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080Ti Xtreme

[saeedsaf]

1 minute ago, RozRocks said:

Do you have ray tracing on? That could give you a performance hit near 50% and that recently got enabled, it was not there at launch. If ray tracing is on turn it off and check your fps.

it's off, Forza Horizon 4 has taken a good hit too, FPS dropped from 90 to 55 in some cases

[immaguy1234]

10 minutes ago, saeedsaf said:

it's off, Forza Horizon 4 has taken a good hit too, FPS dropped from 90 to 55 in some cases

Forza Horizon 4 runs better on my system than your system.... Is the CPU bottlenecking? I have no idea. 

 

I have a Gtx 1080 AMP! with a ryzen 5 1600. It runs at 100 max settings

 

Or it could be that your PSU is simply not enough

[saeedsaf]

 

20 minutes ago, immaguy1234 said:

Forza Horizon 4 runs better on my system than your system.... Is the CPU bottlenecking? I have no idea. 

 

I have a Gtx 1080 AMP! with a ryzen 5 1600. It runs at 100 max settings

 

Or it could be that your PSU is simply not enough

I used to get around 90 FPS with the stock cooler, my resolution is 3440X1440P

[asand1]

Pictures. You need heat spreader/heatinks on the vrms and RAM.

[saeedsaf]

On 12/4/2018 at 12:04 AM, asand1 said:

Pictures. You need heat spreader/heatinks on the vrms and RAM.

I noticed that my Voltage was limited at 0.9, and that the TDP is maxing at 75%.

 

Could that be related to vrms?

[asand1]

You still haven't answered my question or posted a photo as myself and others have asked. I'm not going to guess as to your problem. Please don't ask for help if your not going to help yourself. 

 

I don't know what your GPU had stock, and I don't know what you had to remove to mount the G12.

 

Photos or GTFO.

[i_build_nanosuits]

On 12/3/2018 at 11:41 AM, saeedsaf said:

Hi there,

 

I just mounted a G12 coupled with a Kraken X62 on my Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080Ti Xtreme and it's driving me crazy, temps reach a max of 55 degrees under heavy usage, and clock speed hit 1900 MHz. However, my card's performance has taken a heavy hit, my FPS in BFV has dropped from 120 to a mere 70. Multiple other games have suffered too, and I can't really figure out what's causing this.

 

I would appreciate if you could help me here.

 

Regards,

 

Saeed

you are probably overheating the VRM and the memory chips on the card...which are already an issue even with the full cover cooler...i think you will kill the card.

[w1nger1]

Photo Potato

[mxk]

On 12/3/2018 at 12:04 PM, asand1 said:

Pictures. You need heat spreader/heatinks on the vrms and RAM.

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2 hours ago, saeedsaf said:

I noticed that my Voltage was limited at 0.9, and that the TDP is maxing at 75%.

 

Could that be related to vrms?

He said that you need heatsinks or heat spreaders on the VRMS and GDDR6 VRAM. I'm not sure if you skimmed over what he said before you posted again, but pictures would be nic---No, we need pictures to help you, please!

[-rascal-]

7 hours ago, saeedsaf said:

I noticed that my Voltage was limited at 0.9, and that the TDP is maxing at 75%.

 

Could that be related to vrms?

 

Sounds like VRMs are overheating.

 

The stock cooler is designed to cool the VRM, VRAM (Memory chips) and other critical parts of the PCB.

Now that you've taken that off, your GPU die/core is running cooler with the AIO, but you got nothing on the VRMs and the GDDR6 VRAM ICs for cooling.

 

 

[TheNaitsyrk]

VRM throttling, put a fan under the card at 100% speed and tell us if it gets better.

[saeedsaf]

 

Here are some photos, let me know if they're useful.

 

Appreciate everyone's support.

[saeedsaf]

7 hours ago, asand1 said:

You still haven't answered my question or posted a photo as myself and others have asked. I'm not going to guess as to your problem. Please don't ask for help if your not going to help yourself. 

 

I don't know what your GPU had stock, and I don't know what you had to remove to mount the G12.

 

Photos or GTFO.

Relax, there's no need for such language 

 

[AugOwnz]

You have no cooling on both vrm and vram. You are cooking them real good.

[GamerDude]

41 minutes ago, AugOwnz said:

You have no cooling on both vrm and vram. You are cooking them real good.

Yep, the VRAM modules as well as the VRM aren't even cooled, little wonder the GPU is throttling......like a mad mutha.  OP, you do know these need to be cooled as well, right?

[saeedsaf]

Went back to the stock cooler, and now everything is back to normal.

59 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Yep, the VRAM modules as well as the VRM aren't even cooled, little wonder the GPU is throttling......like a mad mutha.  OP, you do know these need to be cooled as well, right?

 

1 hour ago, AugOwnz said:

You have no cooling on both vrm and vram. You are cooking them real good.

the G12 has a fan on the right side, but the VRAM around the GPU isnt getting any cooling, so it's probably that. Any suggestions on how to cool it? Heatsinks and Spreaders?

 

Also, would it be possible that the GPU bios is throttling it down because it's not detecting the fans?

[AugOwnz]

45 minutes ago, saeedsaf said:

Went back to the stock cooler, and now everything is back to normal.

 

the G12 has a fan on the right side, but the VRAM around the GPU isnt getting any cooling, so it's probably that. Any suggestions on how to cool it? Heatsinks and Spreaders?

 

Also, would it be possible that the GPU bios is throttling it down because it's not detecting the fans?

Never heard of a graphics card throttling because no fan was plugged in. The best way to watercool is getting a proper full cover block for it. With a setup like yours you could put some little heatsinks on the vram etc. but that doesn't really do much.

[saeedsaf]

18 minutes ago, AugOwnz said:

Never heard of a graphics card throttling because no fan was plugged in. The best way to watercool is getting a proper full cover block for it. With a setup like yours you could put some little heatsinks on the vram etc. but that doesn't really do much.

Yeah but these require a full loop

[AugOwnz]

Yes they do, otherwise just keep the stock cooler on, the g12 will eventually kill the card because it only cools the gpu.