HEADS UP: New 10tb cheap external HDD out now.

[Sirgeorge]

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-External-Desktop-Storage-STEL10000400/dp/B0798DVKRV/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1517896832&sr=8-7&keywords=10tb+external+hard+drive+seagate

 

For anyone that wants cheap storage and doesn't care about the fastest of speeds, here you are. This is the cheapest way to get a 10tb hard drive for a while. The shingled nature of the drive makes it great for cheapness for the size but they don't offer it at the same price point without the case. If you want, you can rip the casing out and it's just a regular 3.5 inch HDD underneath. Brand new this one. Of course, with the new Heat Assisted Magnetic Recording drives coming out by the end of 2018, who knows if this'll be a good option even by the end of the year. We won't know. Time can only tell. P. S. pcpartpicker listing to come soon.

[Shreyas1]

I just want to point out the $75 expert installation...

[Arrent]

21 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

I just want to point out the $75 expert installation...

You don't want to accidentally plug it into the wrong port!

[Daniel Z.]

1 minute ago, Arrent said:

You don't want to accidentally plug it into the wrong port!

Instructions not clear: hard drive stuck up butt

[Damascus]

Saw a guy selling 4 5tb nas units for 100 bucks a pop.

[WereCat]

1 hour ago, Shreyas1 said:

I just want to point out the $75 expert installation...

"I keep plugging it into the D-Sub connector and it doesn't work!"

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

"I keep plugging it into the D-Sub connector and it doesn't work!"

put it in H !

[Sirgeorge]

On 2/6/2018 at 2:08 AM, Damascus said:

Saw a guy selling 4 5tb nas units for 100 bucks a pop.

Hey, I've got a 5TB drive I'm replacing this with and that sounds about right for price. If you wanna buy...

[Damascus]

9 minutes ago, Sirgeorge said:

Hey, I've got a 5TB drive I'm replacing this with and that sounds about right for price. If you wanna buy...

Nah, I've already got more storage than I know what to do with (960gb ssd + 2tb hdd)

[Daniel Z.]

2 hours ago, Damascus said:

Nah, I've already got more storage than I know what to do with (960gb ssd + 2tb hdd)

lol i am sitting here with 128 ssd and 1tb hdd

[Damascus]

17 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

lol i am sitting here with 128 ssd and 1tb hdd

If you want it I dont really want my hdd

 

I'm used to a 256gb ssd being my only storage.

[Daniel Z.]

Just now, Damascus said:

If you want it I dont really want my hdd

 

I'm used to a 256gb ssd being my only storage.

lol no, shipping to vancouver is almost as much as another drive. thanks for offering though

[kirashi]

On 2/5/2018 at 11:27 PM, WereCat said:

"I keep plugging it into the D-Sub connector and it doesn't work!"

Are you in the basement or dungeon with plugging into the D-Sub connector?  

[AshleyAshes]

At those prices, Seagate's 8TB externals are vastly better in terms of $/GB, but these were just released, so I'll def keep an eye on these. :3

[dcgreen2k]

Don't shingled disks have horrible write speeds? 

[AshleyAshes]

1 hour ago, thegreengamers said:

Don't shingled disks have horrible write speeds? 

That depends on your metric of 'horrible'.  The Segate 'Archive' SMR drives could read at 220+ MB/s but only write around 110-120MB/s.  However when you factor in that a 1gbps network connection only reaches 125MB/s (More like 113MB/s in realistic usage) then it's really not a big deal.  Especially if you are buying a large drive to just 'store stuff'.

 

When I write to my media server, that includes some four 8TB SMR Seagate Archive drives, it easily caps at 113MB/s which is where the network connection is the bottleneck.

 

More over, the newer Singled Baracuda drives are a great deal bit faster.

 

So, yeah, if you're going to be slamming it with enterprise scale writing tasks, it's horrible.  If you're just going to hoard or backup a bunch of stuff on it, it's insignificant.

[dcgreen2k]

1 minute ago, AshleyAshes said:

That depends on your metric of 'horrible'.  The Segate 'Archive' SMR drives could read at 220+ MB/s but only write around 110MB/s.  However when you factor in that a 1gbps network connection only reaches 125MB/s (More like 113MB/s in realistic usage) then it's really not a big deal.  Especially if you are buying a large drive to just 'store stuff'.

 

More over, the newer Singled Baracuda drives are a great deal bit faster.

 

So, yeah, if you're going to be slamming it with enterprise scale writing tasks, it's horrible.  If you're just going to hoard or backup a bunch of stuff on it, it's insignificant.

I thought LTT did a video on shingled drives where write speeds were around 10MBps.

[AshleyAshes]

3 minutes ago, thegreengamers said:

I thought LTT did a video on shingled drives where write speeds were around 10MBps.

Looking at the video now, they don't show any results close to that.

 

However rebuild times are longer: About 16hrs vs 18hrs when pitting an Enterprise Array vs an Archive Array.

 

 

 

Overall, yes, the SMR Archive drives are slower then Enterprise drives (No surprise) but nothing remotely close to the 10MB/s you seem to think you remember.

[dcgreen2k]

1 minute ago, AshleyAshes said:

Looking at the video now, they don't show any results close to that.

 

 

Yeah, it's been a while since I watched that video.

[Sirgeorge]

On 2/8/2018 at 9:15 AM, thegreengamers said:

Don't shingled disks have horrible write speeds? 

 

On 2/8/2018 at 11:12 AM, AshleyAshes said:

That depends on your metric of 'horrible'.  The Segate 'Archive' SMR drives could read at 220+ MB/s but only write around 110-120MB/s.  However when you factor in that a 1gbps network connection only reaches 125MB/s (More like 113MB/s in realistic usage) then it's really not a big deal.  Especially if you are buying a large drive to just 'store stuff'.

 

When I write to my media server, that includes some four 8TB SMR Seagate Archive drives, it easily caps at 113MB/s which is where the network connection is the bottleneck.

 

More over, the newer Singled Baracuda drives are a great deal bit faster.

 

So, yeah, if you're going to be slamming it with enterprise scale writing tasks, it's horrible.  If you're just going to hoard or backup a bunch of stuff on it, it's insignificant.

 

On 2/8/2018 at 11:14 AM, thegreengamers said:

I thought LTT did a video on shingled drives where write speeds were around 10MBps.

 

On 2/8/2018 at 11:22 AM, AshleyAshes said:

Looking at the video now, they don't show any results close to that.

 

However rebuild times are longer: About 16hrs vs 18hrs when pitting an Enterprise Array vs an Archive Array.

 

 

 

Overall, yes, the SMR Archive drives are slower then Enterprise drives (No surprise) but nothing remotely close to the 10MB/s you seem to think you remember.

 

On 2/8/2018 at 11:24 AM, thegreengamers said:

Yeah, it's been a while since I watched that video.

I've owned both the 5tb (when it came out) the 8tb (when it came out) and now the 10 tb one (now that it is has come out). I migrated my files over and I can say for sure that you can achieve 100 mb/s for sure.