PCWorld Vega FE demo.

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Looking at aftermarket 1080Ti's they're range from 1540-1680Mhz for boost clocks.

 

With anything over that being a manual overclock that's rather hefty.

Ermmm GPU Boost 3.0 exists

[Valentyn]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Ermmm GPU Boost 3.0 exists

 

Yeah, and still Guru3D saw 1080Ti's averaging around 1700Mhz in most games with aftermarket coolers, and had to up power limits, core voltages, and more to get a boost over 1900Mhz.

Also who's the say their Titan Xp was throttling? For all we know the FE throttles on the stock cooler as well. Hence that water cooled one.

We can't draw anything form this expect that in Pro workloads the FE is faster for a similar price stock to stock.

Doesn't mean anything for gaming

[Masada02]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

1900+, yes. 1800-1900 isn't really high for a Titan Xp. BTW, I just fact checked what I said and the reference cooler on the Titan Xp makes it run at 1600-1700MHz, which is VERY low....

When I had my Xp on the reference cooler it would sit between 1750 and 1800 stock. With water it would boost to 2000 without any tweaking.

 

The Vega card they are testing here is the air cooled version as well though with probably similar thermal performance. Now just imagine the water cooled version with 75W more TDP...

 

It's going to be interesting. 

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Masada02 said:

When I had my Xp on the reference cooler it would sit between 1750 and 1800 stock. With water it would boost to 2000 without any tweaking.

 

The Vega card they are testing here is the air cooled version as well though with probably similar thermal performance. Now just imagine the water cooled version with 75W more TDP...

 

It's going to be interesting. 

overclocking potential on vega will be very important to its adoption imo.

my current guess is max oc at around 1750+ -

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

Also who's the say their Titan Xp was throttling? For all we know the FE throttles on the stock cooler as well. 

Yeah, probably, 300 freaking W TDP 

1 minute ago, Masada02 said:

It's going to be interesting. 

I Agree

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, cj09beira said:

overclocking potential on vega will be very important to its adoption imo.

my current guess is max oc at around 1750+ -

My guess is that it won't go higher than 1650MHz. AMD cards don't overclock very well

[Valentyn]

3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

My guess is that it won't go higher than 1650MHz. AMD cards don't overclock very well

 

The Tahiti cards clocked really well, as did prior ones. We need to wait and see really.

Either way, I never cared for overclocking GPUs. If I wanted one I'd buy aftermarket.

I want it good out of the box.

 

 

[Masada02]

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

My guess is that it won't go higher than 1650MHz. AMD cards don't overclock very well

I think it's less that they don't clock well and more that they clock them closer to their limit out of the box than Nvidia does. 

[Doobeedoo]

Well great to see these out in the wild now. The RX Vega shipping to AIBP so that's great. Can't wait to see customs.

[Valentyn]

Ah FFS! That tech bug is scratching, and I'm tempted to pick up a Frontier Edition now just to play around with it.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Ah FFS! That tech bug is scratching, and I'm tempted to pick up a Frontier Edition now just to play around with it.

Don't.  Your 980 Ti is more than enough, wait for Volta

[Valentyn]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Don't.  Your 980 Ti is more than enough, wait for Volta

I wants it though, and that blue.... gah.

 

Gotta put out some WoW benchmarks on the FE

[Simon771]

1 hour ago, Valentyn said:

 

The Radeon RX card is going to be faster in gaming according to Raja from the Vega AMA he did.

So Vega is just pointless for gamers.

Meh.

[cj09beira]

22 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

My guess is that it won't go higher than 1650MHz. AMD cards don't overclock very well

thats not very true, my rx 480 can get 1450-1500 depending on the game (it crashes if it hits high temps) thats a 15% oc over stock, and they did say they optimized for higher clocks so we will see 

[Valentyn]

Just now, Simon771 said:

So Vega is just pointless for gamers.

Meh.

 

How so?

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

So Vega is just pointless for gamers.

Meh.

How is RX Vega going to be pointless?

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Valentyn said:

I wants it though, and that blue.... gah.

You can just spray paint your card blue  Although the blue on the FE is very nice 

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

thats not very true, my rx 480 can get 1450-1500 depending on the game (it crashes if it hits high temps) thats a 15% oc over stock, and they did say they optimized for higher clocks so we will see 

Your 480 is above average, most 480s can barely hit 1390MHz:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_rx_480/

[cj09beira]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

You can just spray paint your card blue  Although the blue on the FE is very nice 

Your 480 is above average, most 480s can barely hit 1390MHz:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_rx_480/

i know :-)

its one of the fastest ones on air on hwbot

[Valentyn]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You can just spray paint your card blue  Although the blue on the FE is very nice 

Your 480 is above average, most 480s can barely hit 1390MHz:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_rx_480/

The Blue AMD is using is a very unique pigment though. It gets powercoated on.
So nice.

 

Looking forward to all the tests, and to see if their reference cooler is actually decent for once. It's been so long.

[Simon771]

3 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

How so?

 

2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

How is RX Vega going to be pointless?

 

 

Well he said that: ""The Radeon RX card is going to be faster in gaming according to Raja from the Vega AMA he did.""

So RX 580 will be faster in games than Vega?

 

Or did I understand that wrong?

[Valentyn]

Just now, Simon771 said:

 

 

 

Well he said that: ""The Radeon RX card is going to be faster in gaming according to Raja from the Vega AMA he did.""

So RX 580 will be faster in games than Vega?

 

Or did I understand that wrong?

You understood it wrong.

There's going to be a Radeon RX Vega card that's faster than the Frontier Edition.

Just like there's going to be a Radeon Pro Vega card, and there already is an instinct vega card.

Similar to Radeon RX 580, Instinct MI16, Radeon Pro WX 7100 that uses Polaris 10.

[Simon771]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

You understood it wrong.

There's going to be a Radeon RX Vega card that's faster than the Frontier Edition.

Just like there's going to be a Radeon Pro Vega card, and there already is an instinct vega card.

Similar to Radeon RX 580, Instinct MI16, Radeon Pro WX 7100 that uses Polaris 10.

Aaaah okay my bad.

 

I apologize for confusion haha

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Simon771 said:

 

 

 

Well he said that: ""The Radeon RX card is going to be faster in gaming according to Raja from the Vega AMA he did.""

So RX 580 will be faster in games than Vega?

 

Or did I understand that wrong?

Nice invisible text.

Vega FE is Prosumer 

RX Vega is Gaming. RX vega is coing out later, BOTH will use the same CHIP but the RX will be optimized for games the FE is not.

 

as per the quote he means RX Vega will be better then Vega FE in games. we should expect RX Vega to be miles faster then a RX 580.

[cj09beira]

@PCGuy_5960 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3502957_brunomocardoso_gpupi___32b_radeon_rx_480_32min_30sec_665ms

http://hwbot.org/submission/3502902_brunomocardoso_gpupi___1b_radeon_rx_480_29sec_40ms

if only i had a better cpu, i would be on top in most of the benches, (Note to self: buy a ryzen cpu, or find yourself a 4790k)

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, cj09beira said:

@PCGuy_5960 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3502957_brunomocardoso_gpupi___32b_radeon_rx_480_32min_30sec_665ms

http://hwbot.org/submission/3502902_brunomocardoso_gpupi___1b_radeon_rx_480_29sec_40ms

if only i had a better cpu, i would be on top in most of the benches, (Note to self: buy a ryzen cpu, or find yourself a 4790k)

That's actually better than many 580s! You completely won the silicon lottery!