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June 16, 2017 - The WAN Show Document

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Embargo Broken: Intel Core i9 Benchmarked!

Source 1: posted by PCGuy_5960 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/794155-7900x-reviewed/

Source 2:  http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/107017-intel-core-i9-7900x-14nm-skylake-x/


  • the first ever core i9 processor has been introduced: it's the 10 core, 20 thread Core i9-7900X

  • priced at $999

  • The $2,000 18 core, 36 thread 7980XE won't ship until Q4


Amazon to Acquire Whole Foods for $13.7 Billion

Source 1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/amazon-to-acquire-whole-foods-in-13-7-billion-bet-on-groceries

Source 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/business/dealbook/amazon-whole-foods.html?_r=0


  • Amazon.com Inc. will acquire Whole Foods Market Inc. for $13.7 billion, catapulting the e-commerce giant into hundreds of physical stores and fulfilling a long-held goal of selling more groceries.

  • Amazon gets a network of stores where it can implement decades’ worth of experiments in how people pick, pay for and get groceries delivered.

  • The deal sent shockwaves across both the online and brick-and-mortar industries.

  • Grocery chains plunged on Friday --

    • Wal-Mart Stores Inc. fell  7.1%

    • Kroger Co. fell 17%


“I assume the physical presence gives them the ability to distribute other products more locally. So theoretically you could get 5-minute delivery.” - Michael Pachter, an analyst at Wedbush Securities Inc.

  • Will Whole Foods eventually be checkout-less, using Amazon Go technology?

  • Will it get cheaper to shop at WF?


CRTC (Canada) bans cell phones unlocking fees

Source 1: posted by wkdpaul https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793733-crtc-canada-bans-cellhpones-unlocking-fees/

Source 2: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crtc-wireless-code-cellphone-1.4161711


  • As of Dec. 1, cell phone customers can ask their provider to unlock their phones free of charge, and all newly purchased mobile devices must be provided to customers unlocked.

  • Telecoms often order locked phones from manufacturers that are programmed to work only with their service. Then they charge a fee — typically $50 — to unlock the phone if a customer wants to switch providers.

"Now there's going to be so much more flexibility in being able to jump from plan to plan, from carrier to carrier. That will likely spark more competition."

  • Canadian telecoms made a total of $37.7 million last year by charging customers to unlock their cellphones — a 75%  jump in that source of revenue compared with 2014.

  • Telecoms warned that if they didn't charge an unlocking fee for the few customers who want it done, the cost would have to be passed on to everyone.

  • Parents: The commission also announced that only the account holder can consent to data overage and additional roaming charges in a family-shared cellphone plan.

    • Other plan members will only be able to give consent if the account holder grants them approval.





What’s Coming Out on Floatplane? Go Over Current Week.

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Facebook creating its own TV shows

Source 1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-16/facebook-chases-tv-s-70-billion-stash-with-its-own-video-series

Source 2: https://www.ft.com/content/2047563c-4bd6-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43


  • Facebook is closing deals for its first batch of shows which will be available via a new video tab on Facebook that hasn’t been released.

  • By funding a slate of original programs, Facebook hopes to entice more production companies to upload premium video, which Facebook will then use to siphon advertising dollars away from television.

  • Facebook is funding two kinds of programs --

    • Hero Shows: expensive series from established TV producers that will take a few months to produce

    • Spotlight shows: cheaper videos from publishers like Vox and BuzzFeed

  • All shows will be episodic and designed to spur conversation among Facebook users.

  • Facebook executives have compared funding original videos to priming the pump at an oilfield, giving creators a financial incentive to upload more video, get a taste of the large audiences they can attract, and come back for more.

  • Facebook has paid celebrities to use its live video feature, and encouraged TV networks and movie studios to stream live events and trailers on the social network for free promotion.


iPad Pro outperforms MacBook Pro in some CPU & GPU Ttasks

Source 1:  posted by hey_yo_ https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793915-benchmark-tests-show-new-ipad-pro-models-outperform-macbook-pro-in-some-cpu-gpu-tasks/

Source 2: https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/14/ipad-pro-versus-macbook-pro-speed-tests/


  • The blog BareFeats stacked the 2017 and 2016 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar models up against four different iPad Pro models and  put the devices through a series of GeekBench and GFXBench tests, looking at both CPU and GPU performance.

  • On the Geekbench metal GPU tests the 10.5-inch iPad Pro beat out all other devices, including the MacBook Pro.

    • The newest 12.9-inch model came in second,

    • followed by the 2016 MacBook Pro.

    • The 2017 MacBook Pro placed fourth, behind its predecessor.

  • On the GFXBench graphics test the tests iPad Pro 12.9-inch and 10.5-inch models edged out both MacBook Pro models.

  • For multi-core CPU performance, the 2017 MacBook Pro came in at the top, but in second place was the 10.5-inch iPad Pro followed by the 2017 12.9-inch model- head of the 2016 MacBook Pro

  • Couple Caveats:

    • benchmark tests are not necessarily conducive to real-world usage.

    • MacBook Pro models have larger and higher resolution displays than the iPad Pro’s, which play a role especially in GPU tests.

    • iOS software is nearly perfectly optimized for the devices it runs on, whereas there is a bit more room for error when it comes to macOS.


Leaked: AMD Epyc 7000 series

Source 1:  posted by NumLock21 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793623-amd-epyc-7000-series-revealed/.

Source 2: https://videocardz.com/70266/amd-epyc-7000-series-specs-and-performance-leaked


  • These chips- formerly known as Naples- are taking aim at Intel’s Xeon series.

  • Will Intel pull out a fast-answer like they did with SkylakeX/Threadripper?



Rumour: Nvidia Volta Won't Use HBM2, But GDDR5X

Source 1: posted by NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/794152-nvidia-volta-wont-use-hbm2-but-gddr5x/

Source 2: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/upcoming-geforce-gtx-cards-use-gddr5x-not-hbm2.html


  • It’s rumoured that the upcoming consumer GeForce cards based on Volta will not use HBM2

  • Because HBM2 memory may simply be too expensive for consumer products.

  • The challenges associated with HBM2 fabrication and implementation could also be related to the delays we’re seeing from AMD’s consumer Radeon RX Vega cards.


Scrapyard Wars 4 Champion saves a life

Source 1: posted by rodrosenberg https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793258-scrapyard-wars-4-champion-saves-aunt-lost-for-5-days/

Source 2: http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/23841-great-grandmother-70-recounts-5-days-trapped-in-car-before-dramatic-rescue-this-isnt-real


  • 70 year old Sharon Leaming has five broken ribs, a broken back and a giant bruise on her face since surviving five days trapped in her car after crashing 40 feet down an embankment in Washington.

  • She was trapped with only two bananas and two bottles of water, unable to move or grab her cell phone.

  • Her family grew worried after she failed to show up for a visit, but their only clue as to her whereabouts was a ping from a cell phone tower that covers several miles along Route 12, about two hours outside Seattle.

  • But she “never gave up hope" and honked the horn of the car for two days until the battery died.

  • After searching countless logging roads, Bob noticed something amiss

“I was just looking over the edge and the more I looked, the more I could see the brush was disturbed a little bit,”

  • Suddenly, he heard his aunt calling out for help.

  • “She couldn’t believe that I found her," Bob said. "She was expecting a search and rescue team."




Badass: Alienware Area 51 with AMD Threadripper

Source 1: posted by NumLock21 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/792481-alienware-area-51-with-amd-threadripper/

Source 2: https://www.pcper.com/news/Systems/Dell-Announces-Alienware-Area-51-Threadripper-Edition


  • Alienware has just announced their new Area 51 gaming desktop with AMD Threadripper.

    • 12 core or 16 core processor,

    • watercooling,

    • UP to 64GB of quad channel DDR4.

    • M.2 PCIe storage and HDD.

    • From GTX1050Ti  up to dual GTX1080Ti or triple AMD RX580s.

  • Through 2017, Dell will be the exclusive OEM prebuilt, to offer AMD Threadripper.

  • Available starting June 27th

  • No price info yet.



Hey Linus, Razer Launches new Blade Stealth ;)

Source 1: posted by linustouchtips https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793211-razer-launches-new-blade-stealth/

Source 2: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/razer-launches-new-blade-stealth-laptop-with-13-3-inch-display-and-new-gunmetal-color-option.html


  • But given the RMA count in our office, would you buy another Blade?



Apple Abandons JPEG In Favor of HEIF/HEVC

Source 1: posted by LAwLz https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/791592-apple-abandons-jpeg-in-favor-of-heifhevc/

Source 2: https://9to5mac.com/2017/06/08/ios-11s-new-heifhevc-camera-formats-will-save-you-50-on-storage/


  • At WWDC, Apple introduced two new camera formats that are included in iOS 11:

    • High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC)

    • High Efficiency Image File Format (HEIF)

  • Apple estimates users will be able to save up to 50% on storage needs, without any loss in image quality

  • Apple will start using HEVC for video recording and will start saving pictures taken on your iPhone as HEIF files, encoded with HEVC.

  • Neither of these new camera formats were originally built by Apple but by MPEG


Facebook Using AI to target Terrorist Accounts

Source 1: http://uk.pcmag.com/news/89874/facebook-using-ai-to-wipe-out-terrorist-accounts

Source 2: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/facebook-claims-ai-tackle-terrorist-content-170616051247212.html


  • Facebook is now using artificial intelligence to keep terrorist content from groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda off the platform.

  • Facebook is using image-matching technology to stop people from posting photos or videos of known terrorists.

  • It's also testing a "language understanding" algorithm that can identify text-based terrorist propaganda.


"When we identify pages, groups, posts or profiles as supporting terrorism, we also use algorithms to 'fan out' to try to identify related material,"


  • The algorithms use signals like whether an account is friends with lot of others who have been disabled for terrorism, or whether it "shares the same attributes as a disabled account."

  • Facebook is also working to bring these technologies to its other platforms, including WhatsApp and Instagram.

  • Facebook is currently focusing on ISIS, Al Qaeda, and their affiliates, though it plans to expand these efforts to block other terrorist organization in the future.

    • Who decides who the terrorists are?


DARPA investing $80 million to develop HIVE processors

Source 1: posted by WMGroomAK https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/792254-darpa-investing-80-million-to-develop-hive-processors/

Source 2: https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/11/american-military-backs-an-entirely-new-kind-of-processor/


  • DARPA is spending $80 million to fund the development of the world's first ‘graph analytic processor’.

  • The HIVE (Hierarchical Identify Verify Exploit) accesses random, 8-byte data points from the system's global memory, crunching each of those points individually

  • That's a much faster approach for handling large data, which frequently involves many relationships between info sets.

  • It's also extremely scalable, so you can use as many HIVE chips as you need to accomplish your goals.

  • The agency is working with Intel, Qualcomm and Northrop Grumman, as well as researchers at Georgia Tech and Pacific Northwest National Laboratory.



Emirates Airlines considering AR Glasses

Source 1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-14/emirates-eyes-smart-goggles-to-shake-off-looming-budget-rivals

Source 2: https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/15/improve-service-emirates-ar/


  • Emirates is studying ways to equip staff with augmented reality glasses that display a passenger’s name and travel habits, allowing more personalized service,

  • Travelers may also be given eye-wear to help them navigate airports or browse food menus.

  • The carrier has recently been hit with to competition from cheaper rivals, weaker oil prices which have hurt demand from the Gulf’s wealthiest travelers, and by tourists’ growing security concerns.

  • The tech is a ways out: “It still looks a little bit odd...But maybe that can be overcome.”



Memes mock Twitter's major redesign

Source 1: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-40299919

Source 2: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4611402/Users-Twitter-mocking-redesign.html


  • Twitter has made some tweaks to their interface:

    • Profile pictures are now round rather than square, wrecking many brands’ images

    • the reply icon is reflected by a chat bubble

    • likes and retweets on the app are shown in real time

    • iOS users can now open links in Safari's viewer

  • People are mocking the new design using #NewTwitter



Bethesda announces Creation Club

Source 1: posted by jaggysnake57 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/793975-bethsesdas-paid-modssome-more-info/

Source 2: https://www.vg247.com/2017/06/16/skyrim-fallout-4-creation-club-will-only-feature-new-dlc-not-mods-you-can-get-for-free-now/


  • At E3, Bethesda announced a new collection of game content- essentially mods- for Skyrim and Fallout that will be for sale through what they’re calling Creation Club

  • The mods are created by both Bethesda and outside modders, and every piece of content is QA’d by Bethesda.

  • Creation Club will be a distinct entity separate from the existing mod environment

  • Is it just a cash-grab, or is this a great way to pay talented modders to make great content?





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Good show tonight. Great guests. :D 

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uh top comment in Yt comments needs to be removed it is inappropriate(the strawpoll one) make sure to check because everybody is just throwing in straw poll links, well it is at least on the description for we're live one


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Whare's my strawpoll?

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14 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

lmao @PCGuy_5960 grats on being the featured news topic but they destroyed your name/avatar :P 

Yeah, I laughed my ass off when I watched that part xD 

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