Razer Launches new Blade Stealth

[Hunter259]

24 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

$1399

Mbp 13" is $1299

Except the entry level MBP has a worse screen (Kinda objective but it is worse when it comes to pixel count), lower base storage (FFS with the 128), worse clocked CPU. However. It does get Iris Pro graphics which is a pretty big step up and has faster ram but less standard. 

 

Very VERY close but I'd have to go Macbook.

[juri-han]

13 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Except the entry level MBP has a worse screen (Kinda objective but it is worse when it comes to pixel count), lower base storage (FFS with the 128), worse clocked CPU. However. It does get Iris Pro graphics which is a pretty big step up and has faster ram but less standard. 

 

Very VERY close but I'd have to go Macbook.

ether way razer was aways the poor mans macbook now their prices are almost on par i hope that at least means they step up their quality control

[NumLock21]

25 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Except the entry level MBP has a worse screen (Kinda objective but it is worse when it comes to pixel count), lower base storage (FFS with the 128), worse clocked CPU. However. It does get Iris Pro graphics which is a pretty big step up and has faster ram but less standard. 

 

Very VERY close but I'd have to go Macbook.

Went to apple store and they have the touch bar 13" for $1299. Probably a mistake or something, but the one next to it was also $1299 and with touch bar. Check apple.com and the $1299 is the 13" non touch bar version, while the two i saw at the store goes for $1799.

[BroliviaWilde]

2 hours ago, LtRavens said:

*Cries inside* Hope not. (Q_Q )

Why must you think so logically?

ok, haha, maybe, just maybe, the unit is on but that light on the back of the screen  was turned off through their software suite, feel better?

[CoolMarquis97]

If they priced these under a Mac Book, I feel that these would fly off the shelves. 

[79wjd]

3 hours ago, Hunter259 said:

Except the entry level MBP has a worse screen (Kinda objective but it is worse when it comes to pixel count), lower base storage (FFS with the 128), worse clocked CPU. However. It does get Iris Pro graphics which is a pretty big step up and has faster ram but less standard. 

 

Very VERY close but I'd have to go Macbook.

We all know resolution isn't that important once you're above a certain point. On a 13.3" display, 2560x1600 is just as good as 3200x1800. But, the quality of the Macs display is more than likely much better being that it's a P3/500-nit display and is likely calibrated properly. Not to mention the fact that MacOS can actually scale whereas Windows still hasn't figured out that useful trick. The Blade does also have a touch screen (not that I will ever condone a touchscreen on a laptop -- although the Blade's trackpad is pretty awful, so maybe it's necessary there).

 

The MBP has an i5-7360u and the Blade has an i5-7500u, if the KL Wiki page is accurate (and also accounts for load on four threads), so the CPU in the MBP is technically faster as it turbos to 3.6ghz on both cores (compared to the 7500u, which turbos to 3.5ghz on both cores) -- that of course is assuming it's cool enough to reach full turbo. 

 

RAM, SSD, and iGPU are very fair points though. 

 

I would personally side with the Mac, although not for any of the reasons you mentioned. The Blade's trackpad is atrocious and that alone would be enough to push me to the Mac. I also much prefer MacOS and I would only need to step up to 16gb of RAM (so $1499 vs. $1399) as I have a NAS to handle all my storage needs.

2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Went to apple store and they have the touch bar 13" for $1299. Probably a mistake or something, but the one next to it was also $1299 and with touch bar. Check apple.com and the $1299 is the 13" non touch bar version, while the two i saw at the store goes for $1799.

Definitely sounds like a mistake -- someone probably moved things around and didn't update the price plaques. 

[Guest lilbman]

9 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Is touch-screen the new feature this time?

No, I think its just a Kaby Lake refresh and the symbol is black or gunmetal instead of green.

[Guest lilbman]

9 hours ago, AHaskin14 said:

I fully get the perk of these for pairing with the Razer core and such, but with those specs and price it's getting eerily close to a windows macbook with some ports and rgb.

The Razer Core isn't the best for the money though.  I feel that most people that would definitely use an eGPU would get a Macbook Pro or an Alienware machine.

 

But yeah, Razer is the Apple of the Windows machines.  At least Apple differentiates their products..

[79wjd]

12 minutes ago, lilbman said:

At least Apple differentiates their products..

Ah yes:

• iPad
• iPad 2
• iPad
• iPad (4th generation)
• iPad Air
• iPad Air 2
• iPad

*I don't remember if the iPad 3/4 were officially designated enumerated.

EDIT: iPad 3, AKA "The new iPad"

 

 

 
 

 

Then there is also the Macs, which are enumerated by the year (but that's not included in the product name), and by a product designation "x,y" (but that's also not part of the product name).

[Guest lilbman]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Ah yes:

• iPad
• iPad 2
• iPad
• iPad
• iPad Air
• iPad Air 2
• iPad

I think its better than:

 

• Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade

etc..

 

I am in no way an Apple fanboy, just so you know. Lets please not argue over name schemes, it's silly.

[79wjd]

8 minutes ago, lilbman said:

I think its better than:

 

• Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade
• New Razer Blade

etc..

 

I am in no way an Apple fanboy, just so you know. Lets please not argue over name schemes, it's silly.

Most companies aren't better in that regard. The Macs don't have any generational designation in the product name, the same goes for the likes of the Dell XPS 13/15. They all have internal model names/numbers/designations, but they're never part of the product name (although Dell at least puts the model in the HTML <title> tag).

 

Unfortunately, computers and cars have always been two product categories that rarely, if ever, have a clear and iterative naming system.

[Guest lilbman]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Most companies aren't better in that regard. The Macs don't have any generational designation in the product name, the same goes for the likes of the Dell XPS 13/15. They all have internal model names/numbers/designations, but they're never part of the product name (although Dell at least puts the model in the HTML <title> tag).

I think Razer and Apple purposely don't use a better naming scheme to keep things easy for people to understand.  But yeah, a lot of companies are guilty of it.

[NumLock21]

47 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Definitely sounds like a mistake -- someone probably moved things around and didn't update the price plaques. 

There were no price plaques. The price was actually being advertised in a small pop up window right inside OSX.

[bobhays]

7 hours ago, BuckGup said:

What changed?

Kabylake, i7 base, 16GB RAM, Smaller bezel = bigger screen, $400 price increase

 

EDIT: Oh and new gunmetal color without the RGB keyboard and light up logo

[Jito463]

2 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Most companies aren't better in that regard. The Macs don't have any generational designation in the product name, the same goes for the likes of the Dell XPS 13/15. They all have internal model names/numbers/designations, but they're never part of the product name (although Dell at least puts the model in the HTML <title> tag).

 

Unfortunately, computers and cars have always been two product categories that rarely, if ever, have a clear and iterative naming system.

My gripe with Apple is their reuse of model numbers, the aXXXX version numbering scheme.  They've been known to have as many as a dozen different models using the exact same aXXXX model.  The only way you can differentiate them, is to determine exactly what CPU they have, which isn't that easy if the blasted thing won't even POST (doesn't often happen, but from time to time it's caused me some grief at work).

[DXMember]

daym... misread it for Ryzen launches Blade Stealth, would be dope...

what's the target audience for this though? Macbook competitor?

[bobhays]

1 hour ago, DXMember said:

daym... misread it for Ryzen launches Blade Stealth, would be dope...

what's the target audience for this though? Macbook competitor?

Yea, anyone looking at a macbook, macbook air, dell xps, or ultrabook in general. I would strongly consider this if they had a matte, non-touch display option. I'd buy one for sure if they lowered the price and had a matte display version.

[crystal6tak]

43.6 Wh?!?!?

 

2016 version had 53.6 Wh, so they made the screen res higher (1440p to 1800p), then made the battery even smaller. What are they thinking!?!?!?

 

Blade stealth aren't even known for their battery life (dell xps 13 for instance has 60 Wh). Heck, the skylake 2016 blade stealth had 45 Wh, WHAT ON EARTH ARE THEY THINKING?!?!?

[79wjd]

4 hours ago, Jito463 said:

My gripe with Apple is their reuse of model numbers, the aXXXX version numbering scheme.  They've been known to have as many as a dozen different models using the exact same aXXXX model.  The only way you can differentiate them, is to determine exactly what CPU they have, which isn't that easy if the blasted thing won't even POST (doesn't often happen, but from time to time it's caused me some grief at work).

What Macs share a model number? 

[79wjd]

5 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

Dual core, integrated graphics. 

How much this thing cost again? 

iGPU only isn't a bad thing. 

 

Cheaper than some other popular ultrabooks. 

[The Benjamins]

7 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Most companies aren't better in that regard. The Macs don't have any generational designation in the product name, the same goes for the likes of the Dell XPS 13/15. They all have internal model names/numbers/designations, but they're never part of the product name (although Dell at least puts the model in the HTML <title> tag).

 

Unfortunately, computers and cars have always been two product categories that rarely, if ever, have a clear and iterative naming system.

I think cars do it right, they go by Model year.

it is not BMW M3 it is 2017 BMW M3 and they make improvements yearly like clock work.

I think going by year is fine AS LONG as they don't release 2 updates a year.

[Drak3]

8 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Not to mention the fact that MacOS can actually scale whereas Windows still hasn't figured out that useful trick.

Windows' scaling is fine, some programs tie their UI to Windows Scaling with an absolute bond, which is the only problem I can see with it. OSX's scaling isn't better when it comes down to it.

 

8 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

iGPU only isn't a bad thing. 

It isn't much of a good thing either, for something the manufacturer expects customers to game on.

[79wjd]

15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Windows' scaling is fine, some programs tie their UI to Windows Scaling with an absolute bond, which is the only problem I can see with it. OSX's scaling isn't better when it comes down to it.

 

It isn't much of a good thing either, for something the manufacturer expects customers to game on.

The windows UI not scaling is a pretty big problem, and is one that MacOS has solved. 

 

It's only marketed for gaming when paired with the Core.

[Jito463]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

What Macs share a model number? 

http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_capability/mac-specs-by-model-number-family-number.html

 

Lists every Mac by model number.  If you look, you can see those model numbers repeat.....a LOT.

 

Here's an example of just one iMac model that covers 16 (!) different versions of it, with the only way to differentiate between them being the year and the CPU.

 

http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=A1418

[79wjd]

11 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_capability/mac-specs-by-model-number-family-number.html

 

Lists every Mac by model number.  If you look, you can see those model numbers repeat.....a LOT.

 

Here's an example of just one iMac model that covers 16 (!) different versions of it, with the only way to differentiate between them being the year and the CPU.

 

http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=A1418

That's how a lot of model numbers are where the model number represents the product but doesn't take into account different configurations. Dell does the same thing -- the XPS 13/15 Is the 9360/9560 no matter how it's configured. It was the same for my 2010 XPS 15, designated with the model L501x across all SKUs.

 

It would get to be obnoxious if every configuration had its own SKU.