PSU Tier List [OLD]

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, turkey3_scratch said:

But the thing that makes the English language so great is that there are so many opportunities for (corny) jokes with multiple meaning things!

Do you have a proverb like:
"there goes his behind onto ground ice" (something like that). Or it fits like your behind on a pot.

German is a wonderful sarcastic (and precise) language.

 

Though you need to have grown up with that or lived in the country to know because that's the stuff you won't ever learn in school.

 

And also has formal and informal pronouns...

 

 

Anyway, Phanteks brings a new PSU that can power two systems, what's your oppionion on that?

[awesomegamer919]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Do you have a proverb like:
"there goes his behind onto ground ice" (something like that). Or it fits like your behind on a pot.

German is a wonderful sarcastic (and precise) language.

 

Though you need to have grown up with that or lived in the country to know because that's the stuff you won't ever learn in school.

 

And also has formal and informal pronouns...

 

 

Anyway, Phanteks brings a new PSU that can power two systems, what's your oppionion on that?

It's a PRIME platinum, loud, too niche to be all that useful and trades other possible connectors to fit the extra ATX connector...

[Guest]

On 8/29/2018 at 12:45 PM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

And everyone else except Seasonic . Your point being?

Super Flower, FSP, HEC/Compucase/Cougar, High Power....

[comicsansms]

On 30/08/2018 at 5:44 AM, seon123 said:

Cougar.

Cougar is HEC/Compucase though...

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

Cougar is HEC/Compucase though...

Are they a subsidiary or something? Huh, didn't know that

[OrionFOTL]

Just a brand of Compucase. 

[awesomegamer919]

6 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Super Flower, FSP, HEC/Compucase/Cougar, High Power....

Don't forget SAMA, Andyson, Great Wall...

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

13 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Super Flower, FSP, HEC/Compucase/Cougar, High Power....

Can't buy Super Flower's PSUs in the US except as EVGA rebrands (sad), Same with FSP and HEC AFAIK, Cougar makes their own units? Wot? Never heard of high power

[Guest]

2 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Can't buy Super Flower's PSUs in the US except as EVGA rebrands (sad), Same with FSP and HEC AFAIK, Cougar makes their own units? Wot? Never heard of high power

Cougar IS HEC.  Compucase IS HEC.  That's why I wrote it out as "HEC/Compucase/Cougar".

 

Used to be able to buy Superflower in the U.S.  but now that they can ship their product through EVGA and not have to support them.

 

And you can most certainly buy FSP in the U.S.  They're everywhere.  In fact, their U.S. office is right down the road from me in Fremont, CA.

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

Just a brand of Compucase. 

Right.  HEC is the "factory".  Compucase is the "OEM".  Cougar is the "retail brand".  

[Sakkura]

On 8/1/2018 at 9:58 PM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Yeah, what is the deal with the CS/M?

On 8/1/2018 at 10:09 PM, jonnyGURU said:

The PM responsible for that wanted a cheap Gold PSU.  It's based off of CX-M, but Gold.  Since it didn't have Japanese capacitors and was rated at 40°C and only a 10ms hold up time, he wasn't allowed to call it TX-M.

On 8/1/2018 at 10:11 PM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

So it's better than the CX-M but worse than the TX-M/RMx/i?

On 8/1/2018 at 10:15 PM, jonnyGURU said:

Correct.

 

TX-M has always been rated at 50°C and met Intel's 16ms hold up time requirement.

On 8/1/2018 at 10:19 PM, awesomegamer919 said:

CSm released way before TXm though.

On 8/1/2018 at 10:48 PM, jonnyGURU said:

Incorrect.  

 

TX-M came out in 2011.  CS-M was launched in 2013.

 

TX-M Bronze was discontinued for a while when RM first came out.  Then CS-M came out to fill a gap between CX-M and RM.  TX-M came back to replace CS-M.

Problem here is the CS series was definitely not based on the CX series. When the Great Wall-made CS series was released, the CX units were still the old CWT stuff (PUQ and DSA3). The Great Wall CX units came a few years later (even later than the DC-DC redesigned CX platform from CWT).

 

On 8/8/2018 at 11:50 AM, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

It depends on exactly what PSU. Let's take the Seasonic Focus+ Gold and the EVGA G2. In France the Focus+ 650 Gold (A T2 unit, though I can't tell why @STRMfrmXMN, performs like the G2 and quieter too) is 100e and the G2 650W is 107e but in the Netherlands and Germany the G2 isn't available at all. Generally 80-100e for a 650w Gold T1/2 unit seems like a fair price

On 8/8/2018 at 10:37 PM, STRMfrmXMN said:

I think transient response, Vreg, and I don't even remember the other thing(s).

 

I definitely saw it and wanted to put it into T1 but then looked at the other Seasonic units in T1 and thought "nah, it's not that good but it's still very good." 

But the G2 breaks ATX spec... surely that's worse?

[awesomegamer919]

17 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

 

But the G2 breaks ATX spec... surely that's worse?

FOCUS also breaks spec under transient load, IIRC some people have reported shutdowns with FOCUS(+) PSUs (and their re-brands) when used with high end 1080Tis and Vega cards. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Sakkura said:

Problem here is the CS series was definitely not based on the CX series. When the Great Wall-made CS series was released, the CX units were still the old CWT stuff (PUQ and DSA3). The Great Wall CX units came a few years later (even later than the DC-DC redesigned CX platform from CWT).

You're quoting me out of context.

 

CS-M is not based off of the same PLATFORM as CX.  It's based on the same performance metrics.  In other words:  The PM used the performance metrics of the CX-M, but asked for a Gold product.  But they are NOT, nor were they ever, the same platform.

 

 

[LienusLateTips]

6 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Same with FSP and HEC AFAIK

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=101

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=150

[Sakkura]

2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

You're quoting me out of context.

 

CS-M is not based off of the same PLATFORM as CX.  It's based on the same performance metrics.  In other words:  The PM used the performance metrics of the CX-M, but asked for a Gold product.  But they are NOT, nor were they ever, the same platform.

 

 

That clarification wasn't in the context. It's nice to have cleared up though.

[Marfe]

On 2016/7/23 at 11:44 AM, STRMfrmXMN said:

 

Good day OP!

 

Im planning to buy a 2070, im just waiting for the reviews of it. If it outperforms the 1080 I will buy a 2070 if it doesn't i will buy the 1080.

 

My question is can my PSU handle a 2070/1080? I have a Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze. Its not the best PSU out there but its also not the worst. Its in tier 4 of the PSU Tier list.

 

Current Parts

CPU is Ryzen 1600 clocked at 3.8Ghz at 1.35V

GTX 1060 3GB

8GBx2 DDR4 at 3000mhz

1 7200 rpm HDD

2 SSD

X72 Liquid cooler (360mm push&pull)

7 120mm fans

1 140mm fan

NZXT Hue+

Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze

 

I did some reading about the your replies here in thread and you said that tier 4 is for more "basic" build. 

 

Will I experience instability using this the Antec Neo Eco 650W 80+ Bronze if I upgrade to 2070/1080?

[GDRRiley]

@Marfe get something better, for the price of a 1080 you should get a T1 or T2.

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, Marfe said:

Will I experience instability using this the Antec Neo Eco 650W 80+ Bronze if I upgrade to 2070/1080?

You can kill your hardware with "the wrong PSU".

So I'd replace it with a modern, good quality one like a Bitfenix Formula/Whisper M, Cougar GX-F, something from the upper end...

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, Marfe said:

Good day OP!

 

Im planning to buy a 2070, im just waiting for the reviews of it. If it outperforms the 1080 I will buy a 2070 if it doesn't i will buy the 1080.

 

My question is can my PSU handle a 2070/1080? I have a Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze. Its not the best PSU out there but its also not the worst. Its in tier 4 of the PSU Tier list.

 

Current Parts

CPU is Ryzen 1600 clocked at 3.8Ghz at 1.35V

GTX 1060 3GB

8GBx2 DDR4 at 3000mhz

1 7200 rpm HDD

2 SSD

X72 Liquid cooler (360mm push&pull)

7 120mm fans

1 140mm fan

NZXT Hue+

Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze

 

I did some reading about the your replies here in thread and you said that tier 4 is for more "basic" build. 

 

Will I experience instability using this the Antec Neo Eco 650W 80+ Bronze if I upgrade to 2070/1080?

You won't, but I generally just recommend a better PSU for high end components. If you have the money for a 2070, you can afford a better PSU.

[Marfe]

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

You can kill your hardware with "the wrong PSU".

So I'd replace it with a modern, good quality one like a Bitfenix Formula/Whisper M, Cougar GX-F, something from the upper end...

Is the RMx (2018) good?

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Marfe said:

Is the RMx (2018) good?

yep.

[awesomegamer919]

Define "good"... it's a premium higher-end gold rated PSU using an LLC resonant conversion design with DC-DC, it's better than most units on the market, fairly similar (especially on the primary side) as the Bitenix Whisper M and Deepcool DQ-M series.

[Marfe]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

yep.

 

Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

Define "good"... it's a premium higher-end gold rated PSU using an LLC resonant conversion design with DC-DC, it's better than most units on the market, fairly similar (especially on the primary side) as the Bitenix Whisper M and Deepcool DQ-M series.

 

 

If i'm going to upgrade my PSU I can have a HXi for 2,000 yen more. Is it worth it?

[LienusLateTips]

47 minutes ago, Marfe said:

 

 

 

If i'm going to upgrade my PSU I can have a HXi for 2,000 yen more. Is it worth it?

2000 yen... approximately $20 USD? It's not worth it unless your power is really expensive.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

4 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

You can kill your hardware with "the wrong PSU".

So I'd replace it with a modern, good quality one like a Bitfenix Formula/Whisper M, Cougar GX-F, something from the upper end...

The. Formula. Is. Not. Modular.