PSU Tier List [OLD]

[awesomegamer919]

41 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The. Formula. Is. Not. Modular.

And? It's still decent quality, when did he claim the Formula was modular?

[STRMfrmXMN]

8 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The. Formula. Is. Not. Modular.

I. Don't. Think. He. Claimed. That.

 

10 hours ago, Marfe said:

 

 

 

If i'm going to upgrade my PSU I can have a HXi for 2,000 yen more. Is it worth it?

Not really, no. The RMx is a very good unit.

[awesomegamer919]

The only reason to get the HXi is if you want the multi-rail OCP and/or higher quality FDB fan.

[Stefan Payne]

10 hours ago, Marfe said:

Is the RMx (2018) good?

Yeah, its OK, if you can get it for a good price.

 

As for Wattage, 550W is enough for any single CPU/GPU Desktop system with any graphics card at default.

 

8 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The. Formula. Is. Not. Modular.

No, but its a good PSU.

I don't care that much about modularity as that is only taste.

 

And under ~750W it isn't much of a a benefit anyway, because we are talking like 1, maybe 2 cables.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

8 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

And? It's still decent quality, when did he claim the Formula was modular?

IMO that should disqualify it automatically when anything modular in any fashion of a similar performance level is in the price range

[awesomegamer919]

22 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

IMO that should disqualify it automatically when anything modular in any fashion of a similar performance level is in the price range

I disagree, especially at 450w it's literally 1 extra cable, that *really* doesn't matter, especially as the Whisper (A fully modular PSU) uses the same number of cables when powering high end GPUs (due to individual PCIe cables, instead of a daisy chain)

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

4 minutes ago, awesomegamer919 said:

I disagree, especially at 450w it's literally 1 extra cable, that *really* doesn't matter, especially as the Whisper (A fully modular PSU) uses the same number of cables when powering high end GPUs (due to individual PCIe cables, instead of a daisy chain)

And? A Focus Gold is similarly priced and semi-modular

[Vuu]

FSP GE series is same quality as G series, no?

[seon123]

27 minutes ago, Vuu said:

FSP GE series is same quality as G series, no?

No. 

On 4/26/2018 at 3:02 PM, OrionFOTL said:

Hydro GE is nowhere near the quality of Hydro G. There's a photo of the insides:

 

It's just the double-forward version of Raider II, but with Gold efficiency. Much closer to a Corsair CX-M or EVGA BQ than the half bridge LLC resonant Hydro G. Corsair CX and Be Quiet Pure Power 10 are already better, because the former is half bridge resonant, and the latter is active clamp reset forward.

 

[Stefan Payne]

6 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

IMO that should disqualify it automatically when anything modular in any fashion of a similar performance level is in the price range

No

because:

a) it doesn't make a difference for the user.

b) you actually have one step less to do when installing the PSU (=connecting the Cables with the PSU)

c) non modular PSUs are smaller and save space, thus for things like the RVZ-01-E a Whisper M is not possible, the Formula is.

d) you don't have a Problem with mixing up the cables (and killing your shit)

 

What you are saying is that you won't buy one car because it isn't white/black/whatever. 

 

Because modular/non modular is just similar taste and does not change the performance of the unit!

 

And Whisper M and Formula are almost the same unit. The major difference is that the Formula has 2 caps less and that its modified for hard wired cables...

55 minutes ago, Vuu said:

FSP GE series is same quality as G series, no?

no, absolutely NOT.

The G is far superior.

Almost like Mercedas A-Class and E-Class...

[Zenoa]

Hi I am looking fr help regarding my first pc build regarding what psu I need here are the specs.

 

CPU: AMD phenom ii x4 980

RAM: Crucial 4gb 1866mhz DDR3

GPU: GTX 950

HDD: WD Blue 1tb 7.2k rpm

PSU: Deepcool DE500 (it has a continous of 350 and a peak of 500)

 

I plan on adding 6 rgb fans which are Tecware orbis . Can my current psu handle adding the 6 rgb fans or do I need to upgrade my psu.

 

(I know my cpu is a bit old but hey it gets the job done plus my friend just gave it to me together with a ddr3 motherboard)

 

[STRMfrmXMN]

5 hours ago, Zenoa said:

Hi I am looking fr help regarding my first pc build regarding what psu I need here are the specs.

 

CPU: AMD phenom ii x4 980

RAM: Crucial 4gb 1866mhz DDR3

GPU: GTX 950

HDD: WD Blue 1tb 7.2k rpm

PSU: Deepcool DE500 (it has a continous of 350 and a peak of 500)

 

I plan on adding 6 rgb fans which are Tecware orbis . Can my current psu handle adding the 6 rgb fans or do I need to upgrade my psu.

 

(I know my cpu is a bit old but hey it gets the job done plus my friend just gave it to me together with a ddr3 motherboard)

 

I replied to your other post. 

 

For those wondering I suggested an EVGA 500B. It's not a great unit but look at this guy's system....

[awesomegamer919]

14 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

And? A Focus Gold is similarly priced and semi-modular

Focus gold has had noted issues with transient loads, it also has had issues with motor noise in isn't all that great overall... 

[STRMfrmXMN]

8 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Focus gold has had noted issues with transient loads, it also has had issues with motor noise in isn't all that great overall... 

Remember, there's a Focus Gold and a Focus Plus Gold. 

 

Not that we needed any more confusing PSU schemes like EVGA has.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

a) it doesn't make a difference for the user.

c a b l e  m a n a g e m e n t

17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

c) non modular PSUs are smaller and save space, thus for things like the RVZ-01-E a Whisper M is not possible, the Formula is.

OP never said he was using an RVZ01E

17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

you don't have a Problem with mixing up the cables (and killing your shit)

And this is a problem for whom?

17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

What you are saying is that you won't buy one car because it isn't white/black/whatever.

I'm saying semi-modular units are available for the same price and even at 450w if you want

17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Because modular/non modular is just similar taste and does not change the performance of the unit!

It does actually make it much more usable. I would not have been able to fit all the cables that came with my Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650 in the bottom of my Phanteks P300 if they were all attached

[awesomegamer919]

3 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

c a b l e  m a n a g e m e n t

 

 

On a 450/550w it's 1 cable

 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, awesomegamer919 said:

On a 450/550w it's 1 cable

 

-extra PCIe cable

-Molex

that's at least 2

[Stefan Payne]

40 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

-extra PCIe cable

-Molex

that's at least 2

No, because they don't come with TWO PCIe Cable, just with one that has two connectors.

 

And there is a really genious invention that was done for electrical installations. Its called Zip Ties.

You can use that to zip away a cable on a non modular PSU in a very compact way.

Especially since you sometimes have a bit of space between the Wall where the MoBo is screwed to and the PSU...

 

 

Anyway, what you are missing is the Price: 

Bitfenix Formula: 65/70€

Bitfenix Whisper: 80/90€

be quiet Straight Power 11: 85/91€

 

So we are talking about 15 or 20€ more for the cables to be removable.

 

 

So we might be talking about getting either a cheapish 600-750W PSU like Thermaltake Smart or a 450W Bitfenix Formula. The Whisper M might be out of budget....

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

And there is a really genious invention that was done for electrical installations. Its called Zip Ties.

A zip tie doesn't make the cable go away

[MEC-777]

Everyone places different value and worth on various features and options, based on personal preference and aspects of a specific build. Just keep that in mind.  

[Stefan Payne]

12 hours ago, MEC-777 said:

Everyone places different value and worth on various features and options, based on personal preference and aspects of a specific build. Just keep that in mind.  

Exactly

And if the one (or two) cable less are worth 20€ or so is something everyone has to decide for themselves.

 

Though many people "in the know" like Electricians prefer hard wired cables because of less points of failures, others want to pay the premium for the modularity. That is a personal preference or a choice, it doesn't make one PSU epic and the other shit. It just makes them different, they both apply to different people.

 

And the question is in many cases:
450W bitfenix Formula or ~600W ish Thermaltake Smart or EVGA 600B.

 

In these cases its often possible to get the people to buy the better Bitfenix one instead, alhough they have "less Wattage". Due to higher prices its not possible to convince them to get the Whisper M, so they end up with the shitty Bronze ones again...

 

And in many cases it is built once and in the lifetime of the PC, the GPU is replaced once, maybe twice, if at all. And then most "Normies" throw the PC away in ~6-10 Years or so and buy a new one.

 

 

So for you it might be important, but fully Modular also has some disadvantages For example you can misplace the Cables.

Or you can overload the Connectors on the PSU Side....

[lordyogreath]

Heya, my friend is getting "new" PC for video rendering a bit(not strong but much better than laptop with pentium he has atm), which PSU would meet minimum for something like this? he won't render 24/7, CPU render for 2-3h daily, and a bit of gaming(mainly WoW)

specs are:

- i7-3930k on Rampage IV Formula, probably going to use auto OC function, don't know how much will power usage be, stock its like 180-190w under load afaik

- 1050Ti Asus Cerberus OC(arriving tomorrow think it doesn't even have a 6-pin, only 75w from board, it say recommended PSU is 300w for it, but this CPU can probably use that much power alone when OC'd)

- 4x4gb hyperx genesis quad-channel ddr3 ram

-cpu aircooler with single 120mm fan

-500gb sata3 ssd

-1 preinstalled casefan that lights white, and probably getting 3 or 6 more rgb fans along the way, not necessarily right away, but take their power draw to account

 

 

don't recommend Seasonic, Evga and Corsair as they are rly expensive here, like s12 seasonic 520w is 73 euros and cooler master mwe 500w is 48 euros and they are both same tier

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 minutes ago, lordyogreath said:

Heya, my friend is getting "new" PC for video rendering a bit(not strong but much better than laptop with pentium he has atm), which PSU would meet minimum for something like this? he won't render 24/7, CPU render for 2-3h daily, and a bit of gaming(mainly WoW)

specs are:

- i7-3930k on Rampage IV Formula, probably going to use auto OC function, don't know how much will power usage be, stock its like 180-190w under load afaik

- 1050Ti Asus Cerberus OC(arriving tomorrow think it doesn't even have a 6-pin, only 75w from board, it say recommended PSU is 300w for it, but this CPU can probably use that much power alone when OC'd)

- 4x4gb hyperx genesis quad-channel ddr3 ram

-cpu aircooler with single 120mm fan

-500gb sata3 ssd

-1 preinstalled casefan that lights white, and probably getting 3 or 6 more rgb fans along the way, not necessarily right away, but take their power draw to account

 

 

don't recommend Seasonic, Evga and Corsair as they are rly expensive here, like s12 seasonic 520w is 73 euros and cooler master mwe 500w is 48 euros and they are both same tier

What stores can you buy from? Is the Cooler Master MasterWatt available to you?

[seon123]

6 minutes ago, lordyogreath said:

Heya, my friend is getting "new" PC for video rendering a bit(not strong but much better than laptop with pentium he has atm), which PSU would meet minimum for something like this? he won't render 24/7, CPU render for 2-3h daily, and a bit of gaming(mainly WoW)

specs are:

- i7-3930k on Rampage IV Formula, probably going to use auto OC function, don't know how much will power usage be, stock its like 180-190w under load afaik

- 1050Ti Asus Cerberus OC(arriving tomorrow think it doesn't even have a 6-pin, only 75w from board, it say recommended PSU is 300w for it, but this CPU can probably use that much power alone when OC'd)

- 4x4gb hyperx genesis quad-channel ddr3 ram

-cpu aircooler with single 120mm fan

-500gb sata3 ssd

-1 preinstalled casefan that lights white, and probably getting 3 or 6 more rgb fans along the way, not necessarily right away, but take their power draw to account

 

 

don't recommend Seasonic, Evga and Corsair as they are rly expensive here, like s12 seasonic 520w is 73 euros and cooler master mwe 500w is 48 euros and they are both same tier

Instead of telling us what your options aren't, how about telling us what your options are?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

@lordyogreath Is the Cooler Master MasterWatt available?