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6 hours ago, Schnoz said:

"Doesn't AMD run hot?"

"Android SUUUUCKS"

"The best PCs have Intel and Nvidia chips"

"I don't need a GPU to run [insert 3D game here]", there's already some in the CPU!

 

 

On Thursday a guy at school sent me his spec list:

- Z370 (I forget the brand)

- Intel Pentium (Dual-core)

- G Skill 32 GB DDR4

- Noctua NH-D14

- EVGA RTX 2070 

- WD Black 10 TB

Those are the important components of the build. He built this off the notion that the GPU was 90 percent of gaming performance. The HDD was his boot drive (to store a lot of games on it). I told him to get a better CPU (at least an 8700K) and he said he already ordered it. Epic facepalm.

 

I'll let you know how well it performs once he builds it.

 

He also believes that programs that claim to speed up your PC work. 

>32GB memory

>WD Black 10 fucking terabytes

>Getting OC RTX 2060 (RTX 2070) for more than a RTX 2060

>D U A L C O R E P A I R E D W I T H R T X 2 0 7 0 


Ryzen 5 1500X 3.925GHz @ 1.24V with stock cooler, 1x8GB DDR4, GTX 950, Corsair 88R, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Corsair 88R, Phanteks RGB LED Strip (400mm), planning on getting a 144hz monitor soon

1500X Cinebench score: 770cb

1500X Cinebench score (3.9GHz @ 1.24V) : 875cb

GTX 950 Cinebench score: 96.31fps

 

1500X idle temperature: 33C

1500X load temperature (1 minute sustained, non-AVX) : 55C 

1500X load temperature (OCCT AVX 64bit all cores/Prime95 1h sustained) : 65C

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7 hours ago, Schnoz said:

"Doesn't AMD run hot?"

"Android SUUUUCKS"

"The best PCs have Intel and Nvidia chips"

"I don't need a GPU to run [insert 3D game here]", there's already some in the CPU!

 

 

On Thursday a guy at school sent me his spec list:

- Z370 (I forget the brand)

- Intel Pentium (Dual-core)

- G Skill 32 GB DDR4

- Noctua NH-D14

- EVGA RTX 2070 

- WD Black 10 TB

Those are the important components of the build. He built this off the notion that the GPU was 90 percent of gaming performance. The HDD was his boot drive (to store a lot of games on it). I told him to get a better CPU (at least an 8700K) and he said he already ordered it. Epic facepalm.

 

I'll let you know how well it performs once he builds it.

 

He also believes that programs that claim to speed up your PC work. 

I have two good friends in my Class that are into PC Gaming that know nothing about tech and they atleast admit it and ask me for help, which I'm happy for.

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11 hours ago, Schnoz said:

- Intel Pentium (Dual-core)

- EVGA RTX 2070 

This video isn't with a 2070, but it wouldn't matter with how bad the bottlenecks would be: 

*Looks at fps

*hmm that's not as bad as I thought (1080p at the time)

*looks at CPU and GPU usage

*ooouuuuuccchhh

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On 2/2/2019 at 8:14 PM, Schnoz said:

"Doesn't AMD run hot?"

"Android SUUUUCKS"

"The best PCs have Intel and Nvidia chips"

"I don't need a GPU to run [insert 3D game here]", there's already some in the CPU!

 

 

On Thursday a guy at school sent me his spec list:

- Z370 (I forget the brand)

- Intel Pentium (Dual-core)

- G Skill 32 GB DDR4

- Noctua NH-D14

- EVGA RTX 2070 

- WD Black 10 TB

Those are the important components of the build. He built this off the notion that the GPU was 90 percent of gaming performance. The HDD was his boot drive (to store a lot of games on it). I told him to get a better CPU (at least an 8700K) and he said he already ordered it. Epic facepalm.

 

I'll let you know how well it performs once he builds it.

 

He also believes that programs that claim to speed up your PC work. 

God bless, rub it on his face when he gets it and tell him he’s wrong and to stop acting like he knows what he’s doing. My blood pressure goes from 0 to 100 real quick from these posts lmao.

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Oh my actual frick. The parts for that Pentium/RTX 2070 arrived yesterday (despite me and my friends' every attempt to get him to cancel the order). I was there with him as he built it (this guy at least knew he couldn't do all of it himself). I let him do some of it, simple stuff like screwing in the mobo (he almost forgot the standoffs) and inserting the CPU. He put it in the wrong direction and was about to close the mounting bracket when I stopped him. If I had turned 0.5 seconds later we would have to RMA the mobo. As of yesterday, the CPU, mobo, and HDD were in. He heard that graphics cards consume a lot of power so he got an EVGA 1500 watt PSU. GENIUS (sarcasm).

 

Today, I saw his amount of knowledge in PC building. He had decided to work on it a bit when I was gone. I noticed that one of the case fan headers (Master Case of some kind) was stuck under the mobo and he was like this:

"Whoops. Lemme take care of that."

Me: "WAIT NONONO---" Then I shet you not he just ripped the fan header out from underneath! We would find out later that we were extremely lucky that time.

Upon closer inspection, he used the whole tube of thermal paste (luckily it wasn't Conductonaut), plus a trail to the GPU, which was on the bottom PCIe slot and nearly touching the PSU.

 

His logic? He had seen heatpipes on the CPU cooler and a Thermalright invention that cooled theback of the GPU, so he made a "heatpipe" snake out of thermal paste down from the CPU (there was more than enough on it, it was spreading out the sides), around the PCIe slots, over the chipset heatsink, and a huge blob on the back of the card. I tried to tell him that the conductivity of even good thermal paste was not close to an actual copper heatpipe, but that guy is one stubborn betch.

 

The rest of the build proceeded without much issue, with me wiring everything up correctly  (he was able to match the SATA port of the drive though). One shitty Windows install later, I tried to run the pirated copy of GTA V on there. It's definitely playable even on ultra, above 60  FPS on a 1440p monitor, but it's far short of the full potential of the 2070. The inside is also ugly as frick and the card runs super hot with no breathing room. Oh well, at least he's happy.


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Not really what you are expecting in this thread, but it stuck with me.

 

When I was in the 7th grade, I had just started to get into computer programming. I was really new to how computers worked, but was figuring it out. Talked to this super cocky kid in my Spanish 1 class who said he wrote hacks in Call of Duty MW2(or 3? semantics.) He was acting like he was all bad because he knew how to hack. I decided to ask what language he programmed the hacks in and his response was golden.

"A little bit of English but mostly French"

 

Suffice to say the kid didn't speak French


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On 1/18/2019 at 8:28 PM, Pascal... said:

Ughh.. I hate the word "hacking". Today in school I used my free in between lesson for starting out on my Project, I'm gone be creating a Puzzle App in the LiveCode environment and first of all I did some tutorials and also listend to music on Spotify, and then a kid walked by and glared at my screen and instantly saw me typing in some basic commands for a little "To Do List" Application and he was like: DUDE, ya hacking ?  
                                               
                    Me: *taking out in-Ear*, Sorry ?

                                                                   Him:  Are you hacking the sh*t ?

                                                                    Me:  *Cringes hard inside* Nah, I'm programming

                                                                   Him:  *Flips out hard* 

                                                                    Me:   *Facepalms and puts In-Ear back in*
 

 

can relate. if i have to run updates on my Linux VM or something people always stare at my screen... 


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49 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

All I do is have a pretty decent typing speed of 80-90 WPM. And people think I'm hacking...

@INTERPOL hacker right here sir


Ryzen 5 1500X 3.925GHz @ 1.24V with stock cooler, 1x8GB DDR4, GTX 950, Corsair 88R, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Corsair 88R, Phanteks RGB LED Strip (400mm), planning on getting a 144hz monitor soon

1500X Cinebench score: 770cb

1500X Cinebench score (3.9GHz @ 1.24V) : 875cb

GTX 950 Cinebench score: 96.31fps

 

1500X idle temperature: 33C

1500X load temperature (1 minute sustained, non-AVX) : 55C 

1500X load temperature (OCCT AVX 64bit all cores/Prime95 1h sustained) : 65C

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16 hours ago, GeminiJupiter said:

Not really what you are expecting in this thread, but it stuck with me.

 

When I was in the 7th grade, I had just started to get into computer programming. I was really new to how computers worked, but was figuring it out. Talked to this super cocky kid in my Spanish 1 class who said he wrote hacks in Call of Duty MW2(or 3? semantics.) He was acting like he was all bad because he knew how to hack. I decided to ask what language he programmed the hacks in and his response was golden.

"A little bit of English but mostly French"

 

Suffice to say the kid didn't speak French

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Hacking 101


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My Aunt: And ? Which Phone do you have, Samsung or Apple ?
Me: I have an OnePlus 5t
She: What is that ?

Me: An Android Phone 

She: Annn-droiiid ???

Me: Ok, I see you don't understand *goes to the toilet to calm down*

 

And the most disgustingest part of all these Stupid conversations with relatives is the fact that they allways think that they know better and think there are only 2 Smartphone Brands, I blame marketing for that.

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I've posted quite a few stories here, and I make it a habit to post one every time I see this threat bumped to the top. Soooo, here we go!

 

This was my freshman year, and I had a potato ass laptop. It was an Acer Aspire 4710, and I had to run Lubuntu because I wasn't very Linux savvy at the time, needed a light weight OS, and it only had XPDMA drivers ever made for its hardware (My schools network was made in such an bass akwards way that only Win 8, Win 8.1, and Mac's could properly log on. As well as Linux machines).

 

I pull up TOP in the terminal because it was lagging out hard and I wanted to see what was up. The amount of stares...

 

I was a renowned hacker from that day on, despite my best efforts to shut them up because I knew literally 0 coding other than basic Linux commands. Thankfully I was never asked to "hack" anything, only help bypass the schools content filter and cheat on tests.

 

That same laptop also nearly caught on fire in my backpack after it turned itself on and cooked itself.


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NAS: PowerEdge 2900! Zeon 5050, 2GB RAM, Storage to come, ATI ES1000, Dell 920W psu x 2 (redundancy)

School Laptop: Thinkpad X201T. i7-L620, 8GB RAM, 250GB SSD, Intel iGPU

Phone: Galaxy Note 8

Random devices in various stages of working: Gateway Solo W2000 Laptop (For writing floppies, needs a battery), iBook G3 Clamshell (for a custom build, just a case), iBook G4 (For Sale.), 2011 Macbook pro 15" (Dead as a doornail. No idea.), Surface 3 (Touch screen is borked, perfect otherwise.)

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19 hours ago, Schnoz said:

Oh my actual frick. The parts for that Pentium/RTX 2070 arrived yesterday (despite me and my friends' every attempt to get him to cancel the order). I was there with him as he built it (this guy at least knew he couldn't do all of it himself). I let him do some of it, simple stuff like screwing in the mobo (he almost forgot the standoffs) and inserting the CPU. He put it in the wrong direction and was about to close the mounting bracket when I stopped him. If I had turned 0.5 seconds later we would have to RMA the mobo. As of yesterday, the CPU, mobo, and HDD were in. He heard that graphics cards consume a lot of power so he got an EVGA 1500 watt PSU. GENIUS (sarcasm).

 

Today, I saw his amount of knowledge in PC building. He had decided to work on it a bit when I was gone. I noticed that one of the case fan headers (Master Case of some kind) was stuck under the mobo and he was like this:

"Whoops. Lemme take care of that."

Me: "WAIT NONONO---" Then I shet you not he just ripped the fan header out from underneath! We would find out later that we were extremely lucky that time.

Upon closer inspection, he used the whole tube of thermal paste (luckily it wasn't Conductonaut), plus a trail to the GPU, which was on the bottom PCIe slot and nearly touching the PSU.

 

His logic? He had seen heatpipes on the CPU cooler and a Thermalright invention that cooled theback of the GPU, so he made a "heatpipe" snake out of thermal paste down from the CPU (there was more than enough on it, it was spreading out the sides), around the PCIe slots, over the chipset heatsink, and a huge blob on the back of the card. I tried to tell him that the conductivity of even good thermal paste was not close to an actual copper heatpipe, but that guy is one stubborn betch.

 

The rest of the build proceeded without much issue, with me wiring everything up correctly  (he was able to match the SATA port of the drive though). One shitty Windows install later, I tried to run the pirated copy of GTA V on there. It's definitely playable even on ultra, above 60  FPS on a 1440p monitor, but it's far short of the full potential of the 2070. The inside is also ugly as frick and the card runs super hot with no breathing room. Oh well, at least he's happy.

I knocked a Surface mounted little resistor to the RAM slots when that happened on a CPU fan and it's header socket. :( Soldered it back on and sold it on ebay as "working, but sold as seen/broken". Not an expensive board, but annoying and the first time I've ever made such a silly mistake of not checking where the wire was when putting down the heatsink.

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On 2/4/2019 at 9:29 PM, Schnoz said:

so he made a "heatpipe" snake out of thermal paste down from the CPU (there was more than enough on it, it was spreading out the sides), around the PCIe slots, over the chipset heatsink, and a huge blob on the back of the card.

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Alright so I've just spent like 15 minutes of my life arguing on FB group, because there are some people who consider the 8350K as the best budget gaming CPU. And I've heard the most "interesting" reason ever: "The 8400 isn't a gaming CPU." Like "It's just not meant for gaming, I don't know how CPU's are made, but the 8350K is the gaming one." "The 8400 is another useless product made to confuse people". So yeah the kind of people who are convinced to be right no matter what, and even when you show them benchmarks they go "Go make builds with both CPU's to compare for yourself". And what are you supposed to say when they are many people thinking this way when someone asks for advice. I'm just sorry for the poster.

So yeah this only made me realize how creepy Facebook groups can be, and that it's always better to turn to forums dedicated to a particular topic rather than a FB group. I also regret having tried to convince people like that.

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Just now, IAmAndre said:

Alright so I've just spent like 15 minutes......FB group

You have my sympathy. I feel so sorry for you.

1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

there are some people who consider the 8350K as the best budget gaming CPU.

It's certainly not a bad budget gaming CPU. Is it the best? Not by a long shot, and especially not when Ryzen 5 exists.

1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

And what are you supposed to say when they are many people thinking this way when someone asks for advice.

If there's just so many people like that, then you'd probably do well to point the poster towards a forum(such as this) or towards channels such as LTT(they may yet find their way here) or other similar tech channels.

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25 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

It's certainly not a bad budget gaming CPU

It is. It's the worst choice when you're on a budget. It's essentially an overclockable 8100, for which you need to spend more on a mother board and cooling if you plan on overclocking. You're better off sticking with the 8100 or get the 8400 (the "non-gaming" CPU).

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28 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

there's just so many people like that, then you'd probably do well to point the poster towards a forum(such as this) or towards channels such as LTT(they may yet find their way here) or other similar tech channels

Not everyone speaks in English :( It was on a French group and there's no French Linus, trust me.

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1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

It is. It's the worst choice when you're on a budget. It's essentially an overclockable 8100, for which you need to spend more on a mother board and cooling if you plan on overclocking. You're better off sticking with the 8100 or get the 8400 (the "non-gaming" CPU).

lol no it's obviously the best smh my head r u dum

/s

 

What's a "non-gaming CPU"?

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6 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

That's what they call the 8400. But they still can't tell what a "gaming" CPU is. I did ask though.

Ask if they know about AMD Ryzen

 

Can't wait for

'AMD runs hot and is the bad and is the uncool fortnite epic gaming processing unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! banned from grOup'


Ryzen 5 1500X 3.925GHz @ 1.24V with stock cooler, 1x8GB DDR4, GTX 950, Corsair 88R, 1TB HDD, 240GB SSD, Corsair 88R, Phanteks RGB LED Strip (400mm), planning on getting a 144hz monitor soon

1500X Cinebench score: 770cb

1500X Cinebench score (3.9GHz @ 1.24V) : 875cb

GTX 950 Cinebench score: 96.31fps

 

1500X idle temperature: 33C

1500X load temperature (1 minute sustained, non-AVX) : 55C 

1500X load temperature (OCCT AVX 64bit all cores/Prime95 1h sustained) : 65C

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10 hours ago, IAmAndre said:

It is. It's the worst choice when you're on a budget. It's essentially an overclockable 8100, for which you need to spend more on a mother board and cooling if you plan on overclocking. You're better off sticking with the 8100 or get the 8400 (the "non-gaming" CPU).

Oh I was sure we were talking about the FX chip lmao


I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play MTGA & watch anime at 720p...

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The Toaster Project! Northern Bee! The Cassette Deck!

 

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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18 hours ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Ask if they know about AMD Ryzen

 

Can't wait for

'AMD runs hot and is the bad and is the uncool fortnite epic gaming processing unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! banned from grOup'

That should be Intel now, whose 9900k throttles on a 240 mm AIO while my 2600 never goes above 70


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