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Toxic Wikipedia - Action to be taken to try amd improve conduct of editors.

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Wikipedia is to institute a new code of conduct to battle what the firm called "toxic behaviour" by some volunteers.

The Wikimedia Foundation, the organisation that runs the site, voted on new measures that will be finalised by the end of the year.

Wikipedia is written and updated by volunteers. 

Many, particularly women and members of the LGBTQ community, have complained of abuse and harassment from other editors.

Wikimedia's board of trustees said maintaining civility was a core value.

"We must work together to create a safe, inclusive culture, where everyone feels welcome, that their contributions are valued, and that their perspective matters," said Katherine Maher, the chief executive officer of the Wikimedia Foundation.

"Our goal is all the world's knowledge, and this is an essential step on our journey."

I wonder how many complaints it has taken to get this far.

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The foundation's binding code of conduct for members will include banning or limiting access if volunteers violate the terms.

There will be a review process for the decisions if volunteers feel more context is needed. 

Wikipedia has become one of the internet's most trusted sources for information, but complaints about gender imbalances and harassment have plagued the platform for close to a decade.

A study from the University of Washington on the gender gap in Wikipedia editors found many female and LGBTQ editors feared for their safety. Several female editors told the researchers their work had contested by male editors or that they received negative feedback from a male editor. 

A New York Times article from 2019 also highlighted the concerns some transgender editors have about volunteering for the site. One editor told the paper they received death threats. 

 

If true, and I could quite believe it, going as far as death threats should IMO result in criminal proceedings. Banning and limiting access does not go far enough.


I once photographed an LGBGT wedding here in the UK. At the time I did some support work for a Joomla company, all online. The Vietnamese company were brilliant, but some of the supporters were not. I got a lot of very nasty abuse from two American members of the team including calls for me to be chucked out, wishes of my death etc. Those two didn’t last long after that, So when I hear stories like this, from my limited experience I understand how vile some colleagues can be online. It does happen in the normal workplace too but people in general seem to be worse from behind a keyboard. 
 

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Wikipedia is not a formal social media platform like Facebook or Twitter. But its editors can interact with one another and can change the content on a page after it has been written.

This has led to a form of harassment where, after one volunteer adds to a page, another volunteer will remove or change that work moments later, forcing the first editor to redo their work and leading to editing battles.

The development of a new code of conduct will take place in two phases.

The first will include setting policies for in-person and virtual events as well as policies for technical spaces including chat rooms and other Wikimedia projects. It is set to be ratified by the board by 30 August.

A second phase outlining enforcement when the rules are broken will be approved by the end of the year, according to the board's plan.

Why does it need to take so long? 
 

Source : - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52779899

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Odds are this isn't what it seems. Wikipedia is already under the complete control of a small group of top level admins, this just let's them prevent any dissent. Don't let the press-release fool you into thinking this about improving the place.

 

This is just the Emperor disbanding the Senate. 

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Wiki is a joke. Do not try to learn from it anything other than proven facts, maybe physics stuff. Which you can pretty much learn from anywhere else. Wars, religion, politics etc. filled with constant edit wars which lead to what majority says being written and accepted as truth. Yet what majority says ≠ truth.

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Just now, lafrente said:

Wiki is a joke. Do not try to learn from it anything other than proven facts, maybe physics stuff. Which you can pretty much learn from anywhere else. Wars, religion, politics etc. filled with constant edit wars which lead to what majority says being written and accepted as truth. Yet what majority says ≠ truth.

It's good for lists of release dates of products and things that are utterly un-interesting to most people. 

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"Several female editors told the researchers their work had contested by male editors or that they received negative feedback from a male editor."

 

Edit wars aren't limited to the gender of the editors.


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2 minutes ago, lafrente said:

Wiki is a joke. Do not try to learn from it anything other than proven facts, maybe physics stuff. Which you can pretty much learn from anywhere else. Wars, religion, politics etc. filled with constant edit wars which lead to what majority says being written and accepted as truth. Yet what majority says ≠ truth.

Agree, basically anything that has an emotional slant to it these days is not to be trusted


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2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Odds are this isn't what it seems. Wikipedia is already under the complete control of a small group of top level admins, this just let's them prevent any dissent. Don't let the press-release fool you into thinking this about improving the place.

 

This is just the Emperor disbanding the Senate. 

Looks more like a power grab to me too. I hope this will be the final nail in Wiki's coffin. Wiki is full of shady information. I stopped trusting them a long time ago.

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1 minute ago, Pachuca said:

Looks more like a power grab to me too. I hope this will be the final nail in Wiki's coffin. Wiki is full of shady information. I stopped trusting them a long time ago.

While "Codes of Conduct" are almost always a backdoor power-grab move, with Wikipedia, it's more just formally locking in the power structure that took over years ago. This will, unironically, make them more discriminatory but with official approval. It's a version of companies lobbying for laws that add more regulations because only the biggest can implement them.

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Show me someone who hasn't received a death thread on the internet. This is just a power move. 


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9 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

While "Codes of Conduct" are almost always a backdoor power-grab move, with Wikipedia, it's more just formally locking in the power structure that took over years ago. This will, unironically, make them more discriminatory but with official approval. It's a version of companies lobbying for laws that add more regulations because only the biggest can implement them.

Or removal of regulations because the biggest can profit more from it before problems appear.  
 

As far as I can tell this is Wikipedia remaining Wikipedia with a lot of the same old same old.  It’s not super useful for political anything or historical stuff.  


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