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Is the Gearbox of a Lamborghini Aventador upgradable?

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5 hours ago, dizmo said:

Haha, what? Why. If you're asking...especially here...it's nothing you'd ever have to deal with. As others have pointed out, you'd be better off spending the immense amounts of money that it would cost to do that and buying a car that's more focused for the track. If you're worried about performance off the track, the single clutch is more than sufficient for any kind of screen shenanigans.

 

Yes. But those are made of metal, not carbon tubs, and they're extremely cheap, not several hundred thousand dollars. Not to mention the extreme complexity of dual clutch transmissions, ECUs, etc. Not really the same thing at all.

Why do you have DSGs that much?

The problem with the Dry Clutch DSG, is if you live in damp weathers like Denmark, then Micro slip, is an issue. 

 

it was really bad, and still is on my Passat, when it was new from factory it slipped up to 200-300rpm for 30minutes until REALLY Dry, and VW tried to refer to it being a "part" of owning a DSG... and that i could just force shift a lot, so it would only be 10-15 minutes. at 27.000km i got the upgraded clutch with a better grip, but it shifts hard, so it is not comfortable (and still has microslip, just the small kind, not 200-300rpm).. in Denmark, the issue is nearly all dry clutch DSG´s so there are forum threads on 600-900 pages refering to cars with this issue.

 

i have yet to drive a VAG car with the 7-Speed DSG that does not in some way have micro slip. (but most are just "low amount" so you can just feel the DSG Slipping until it gets hot..

 

a Clutch not under warrenty in denmark is 26.000kr = that is over 4000 Dollars for that.. if it was not under warrenty..

 

i would much rather own a CVT that works that this piece of crap, even though i hate the CVT, would even own a old Citroen pneumatic automatic...

 

if you live in a hot climate, this is not an issue. but these are german cars, not southern european so they should work in damp enviroments, VW has updated the DSQ (DSG) gearbox, to now not be dry.. so the issue should be solved, on certain new VW´s i think the Mark 7.5 150Hp 1.5 TSI had one of the good gearboxes.

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20 minutes ago, RasmusDC said:

The problem with the Dry Clutch DSG, is if you live in damp weathers like Denmark, then Micro slip, is an issue. 

 

it was really bad, and still is on my Passat, when it was new from factory it slipped up to 200-300rpm for 30minutes until REALLY Dry, and VW tried to refer to it being a "part" of owning a DSG... and that i could just force shift a lot, so it would only be 10-15 minutes. at 27.000km i got the upgraded clutch with a better grip, but it shifts hard, so it is not comfortable (and still has microslip, just the small kind, not 200-300rpm).. in Denmark, the issue is nearly all dry clutch DSG´s so there are forum threads on 600-900 pages refering to cars with this issue.

 

i have yet to drive a VAG car with the 7-Speed DSG that does not in some way have micro slip. (but most are just "low amount" so you can just feel the DSG Slipping until it gets hot..

 

a Clutch not under warrenty in denmark is 26.000kr = that is over 4000 Dollars for that.. if it was not under warrenty..

 

i would much rather own a CVT that works that this piece of crap, even though i hate the CVT, would even own a old Citroen pneumatic automatic...

 

if you live in a hot climate, this is not an issue. but these are german cars, not southern european so they should work in damp enviroments, VW has updated the DSQ (DSG) gearbox, to now not be dry.. so the issue should be solved, on certain new VW´s i think the Mark 7.5 150Hp 1.5 TSI had one of the good gearboxes.

I wonder if just getting a DSG tune with a tighter clamp on the disc would fix the issue.

I've always heard nothing but good things about VW DSG transmissions.


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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

I wonder if just getting a DSG tune with a tighter clamp on the disc would fix the issue.

I've always heard nothing but good things about VW DSG transmissions.

people have given up on VW in some forums, and got the engine remapped, and a DSG tune, it does solve most of the issues, but that should not be needed.

 

all the rental firms keeps away from DSG since it is a expensive setup, and i you talk with most car dealers, they are popular as used cars, but most VW you need to have a large slump of money for quality issues, in the "used car warrenty period"..

 

VW is not good quality it has never been. currently most DSG cars have issues, i bought my wife the POLO GTI 200hp with a manual (2019 model) people raved at me for wanting a manual, butmost GTI owners with the older more stable DSG 6 speed, which i knew back from the Altea days, where most bought the 140hp diesel with the DSG6 and not the 170hp with manual like me, they still have the same issue..

 

in cold weather on the DSG 6 speed, you can forget everything about getting reverse until 2-3 minutes of heating up your transmission.

 

change of transmission oil has solve the issues of gearbox dying, but all the other issues are well documented, and everytime i am at VW shop (and that is often) there is always a guy working a warrenty issue at the desk with a DSG gearbox. 

 

but it again is just a small part of the HUGE mess of VW issues on engine, gearboxes, and just general things, like not being able to keep water out of a headlight, and having rediculus tolerances on WHAT is okay with that.. have a picture stating VW tolerances of how much water a headlight must have in it, since my FULL LED lights on the Polo has damp in them. (their issues with chain driven 1.0 and 1.4, which wrecks engines, all the diesel issues) fighting with a DSG issue and water in the headlights of my cars, seems to be lucky, noisy trim and stuff like that are just things i accept, since i am tired of visiting shops constantly

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weird flex but okay

 

is it trolling? is op one of those chinese rich kids living abroad?


why everybody post the spec of their rig here? i dont! cuz its made of mashed potatoes!

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7 hours ago, zassou said:

weird flex but okay

 

is it trolling? is op one of those chinese rich kids living abroad?

You dont have to be filthy rich to own an aventador or any expensive car for that matter.

 

Alot of people dont buy them outright. They make payments on them. Value goes up they sell them for a profit, thrn finance another car and do it again. A guy who work in my building has made tens of thousands by doing this. Hes basically driving the car a few times a month and making money off of them.

 

Its also why he has a montana llc so he doesnt pay sales tax on them.

 

For the most part these are not daily drivers. Youll find 10 year old exotics with 6k miles on them.

 

 

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Yeah, it is even pretty simple :

 

- Step 1 : Call ZF

- Step 2 : Ask them for an invoice for a double clutch 7 speed gearbox

- Step 3 : Look at the invoice and realize that you don't want to spend 25K for an useless upgrade

 

It is a simple clutch because they wanted to keep the car a light as they could, even if the transmission is not as smooth as an Huracan*.

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On 1/19/2020 at 12:02 PM, Bombastinator said:

I don’t understand the attraction to super cars mayself.  I had a choice between a DCT automanual an automatic, and a SCT manual for my last car purchase.  I counted numbers of parts and weighed repair frequency and cost, and chose the manual

No worries, some buy cars for the experience of driving, some do for economy, etc.

 

I'll thrash a car within an inch of it's life and lament every hour it spends in the shop or on my lift, but I know who did it ;)

 

We all have our priorities, glad you are aware of yours.

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On 1/20/2020 at 2:28 PM, dalekphalm said:

But what about CVT's in Subaru's? To write them off because of a Mini Cooper's bad CVT is like saying "Disc brakes are bad because one car had shitty disc brakes".

I'm not a fan of Subaru's CVT. Entirely possible I just didn't give it enough time, but I had a Legacy GT that I absolutely loved, so when my wife's Enclave was due to be replaced we checked out an Outback. It was too small, and at the time I couldn't figure out why the transmission felt so weird (turns out CVT). Had that as a loaner for a few weeks while my Legacy was getting some work done to it, put over a thousand miles on it and still really didn't like it. Then the Ascent came out, which was larger so we test drove it a few times, once here in Nebraska and then a second time in the Colorado mountains. I think you'd get used to it after enough time on flat ground, but in the mountains it feels like you never have power, which I thought was opposite what a CVT was supposed to do... either way we just bought an Acadia. Now there are recalls on the CVT of the Ascent, so dodged that bullet. Honestly a little disappointed in Subaru lately, as much as I loved everything about my Legacy GT despite all its quirks, the new stuff is soulless. Their EyeSight sucks compared to our Acadia's Adaptive system, less power, subjectively uglier, rides like crap, and even ended up being more expensive on the optioned up ones. The only way the Ascent came out ahead was comparing base models. The Ascent does have more cupholders tho... not sure why they thought that was the selling point of a lifetime, but I swear I was told that a dozen times by each salesperson.

 

 

 

As for the original topic, you could swap it... but Ed Bolian would probably skin you for doing so. Manual Lambo's are shooting up in price because people who drive cars just to enjoy driving cars want them back. Relatively few people buy supercars to take on the track.

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On 1/21/2020 at 3:45 PM, tankyx said:

Yeah, it is even pretty simple :

 

- Step 1 : Call ZF

- Step 2 : Ask them for an invoice for a double clutch 7 speed gearbox

- Step 3 : Look at the invoice and realize that you don't want to spend 25K for an useless upgrade

 

It is a simple clutch because they wanted to keep the car a light as they could, even if the transmission is not as smooth as an Huracan*.

When someone buys an exotic car. Where a brake job is gonna cost you close to 10k....25k for a mod is nothing tbh.

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On 1/19/2020 at 5:50 AM, S.Hamed23 said:

The Lamborghini Aventador has an old single clutch gearbox that affects the whole performance package.
My question: Is the gearbox upgradable to a dual-clutch gearbox that a Huracan already has?

Did you mean to ask if it can be water cooled?

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