Moral conundrum

[Sat1600]

I purchased a ryzen 2700x at microcenter for $160. Then the price dropped to $130. I went in for a price adjustment which they were happy to do. They refunded the original purchase and repurchased at the new price.

 

Here is the thing. The CPU came with a game code for borderlands 3 or outer worlds. I sold the code for $30. When I did the return. rebuy the system spit out another code automatically.

 

So I feel like I'm not really entitled to a second code. The guy who purchased my first code has not had any problems. I feel funny about claiming or selling the new code. 

 

On the other hand I feel like the code is already generated. Does AMD pay for the code only once redeemed? Or is it already paid for and now there is no way to return it and I may as well use it?

 

Thoughts?

[Oshino Shinobu]

*cough* forum giveaway *cough*

[Lot Qahnaarin]

My DMs are open if you are feeling generous

[Flying Sausages]

Thats bad mang.

[flashiling]

*cough* i'll take it off your hands so you don't need to feel guilty *cough*

 

in all seriousness you shouldn't feel bad. since it's not going to hurt someone because you just got another automatically generated code

[mariushm]

If it helps, AMD made a deal where they basically bought let's say 100k licenses of that game for 10$ each or something like that, so you didn't cost AMD 30$

Also, a lot of gamers don't even redeem those codes. For example, I bought a second rx570 card that came with a game (Hitman I think but it may have been something else) which is just not my cup of tea so I never claimed the code.

I'm sure they only pay for the codes that are redeemed so...

 

It's more or less like a mail-in rebate scheme for them with faster gratification for users ... they could offer 30$ mail in rebate but then user would have to stress about filling forms correctly and waiting weeks for cheque to come in the mail (and some are rejected as the forms are not filled correctly) or they can give you the games.

Just as some users never end up mailing those bar codes to get the 30$ mail in rebate, some people won't ever claim the games.

 

 

[The1Dickens]

29 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

I purchased a ryzen 2700x at microcenter for $160. Then the price dropped to $130. I went in for a price adjustment which they were happy to do. They refunded the original purchase and repurchased at the new price.

 

Here is the thing. The CPU came with a game code for borderlands 3 or outer worlds. I sold the code for $30. When I did the return. rebuy the system spit out another code automatically.

 

So I feel like I'm not really entitled to a second code. The guy who purchased my first code has not had any problems. I feel funny about claiming or selling the new code. 

 

On the other hand I feel like the code is already generated. Does AMD pay for the code only once redeemed? Or is it already paid for and now there is no way to return it and I may as well use it?

 

Thoughts?

Since they didn't just give you a credit or refund of the difference, to the system it looks like a whole new sale. And returns aren't conditional to returning any promotional material received during the purchase. I'd say don't feel too bad. I don't think you can return promotional items, either. So, even if you wanted to do 'the right thing' and give it back, the best you could do is give it to someone else in line who is also buying an AMD product (but then they will still receive the code when they get to the register). You can opt to not use it, but if it works the same as any of Nvidia's promotional items, you can still redeem it months after the fact, so it's going to be a 'live' code for a long time.

 

All in all, whether you sell it, use it, or hold it, the outcome is going to be the same to all parties involved. Best case: AMD "saves" 60 dollars. Worst case: AMD "loses" 60 dollars. You might save the company enough money to pay one employee for 35-40-ish minutes of work.

[Fasauceome]

A game code didn't cost anything to make, it's just text. If you got a physical product then it's a different story, but you shouldn't stress about something that was made for basically free.

[Bombastinator]

23 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

A game code didn't cost anything to make, it's just text. If you got a physical product then it's a different story, but you shouldn't stress about something that was made for basically free.

Dependent on what you consider the object to be.  The code cost effectively nothing.  The game took years to make.  It’s already made though.  Also the maker has already been paid.  It’s quite subjective.  The biggest variable is how it makes the OP feel I think.  Would the OP have bought the game anyway?  Doubtful.  He already sold one code.  Would he have bought the game at a lower price?  Would a good solution be to keep the game and donate the price he feels is appropriate for his interest and situation?    Morality is twitchy.  Humans have been wrestling with it for thousands of years.

[Sat1600]

19 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Dependent on what you consider the object to be.  The code cost effectively nothing.  The game took years to make.  It’s already made though.  Also the maker has already been paid.  It’s quite subjective.  The biggest variable is how it makes the OP feel I think.  Would the OP have bought the game anyway?  Doubtful.  He already sold one code.  Would he have bought the game at a lower price?  Would a good solution be to keep the game and donate the price he feels is appropriate for his interest and situation?    Morality is twitchy.  Humans have been wrestling with it for thousands of years.

I think this is part of the answer. I would not have purchased either game. If I keep the code and use it myself the makers are not losing out. On the other hand if it costs amd money every time someone redeems a code, then it does cost them even if  I just keep it for myself 

[RonnieOP]

Your not costing amd anything meaningful so dont worry about it.

 

I just got a 3700x and couldnt get the xbox game pass code to work. Hit up customer service and they just sent me new codes so i ended up with both borderlands 3 and outer worlds and one game pass trial.

 

They are handing them out like candy on halloween. 

 

 

[Tristerin]

Morality is fleeting - base YOUR morals off what you feel in YOUR heart - if you base them off societies moralities you may have ended up owning human beings a couple hundred years ago, which was morally acceptable in society.

 

My morals on this would be - its a game code, you were given, twice.  Not your issue.

[Kaita]

OT but, can I buy it?  

[Bombastinator]

22 hours ago, Sat1600 said:

I think this is part of the answer. I would not have purchased either game. If I keep the code and use it myself the makers are not losing out. On the other hand if it costs amd money every time someone redeems a code, then it does cost them even if  I just keep it for myself 

“Search your feelings Luke”.  What do you feel is appropriate? What would make this work for you?  Could be many things.  If you’re a fan of the whole tree planting thing you could sell it and plant some trees for example.  That’s been a common favorite on the internet lately. 

[thedangerine]

I had a game code for division two when I bought an rx570 for my second pc that was staying at my parents house for when I was off school for breaks and I forgot to redeem it at home and when I was back at school I couldn't because it could not detect that hardware in my system and would not give me the game key. I say use it, it won't cost them anything as they likely already made a deal with the game studio at a fixed price likely up to a certain number of keys or for a specific amount of time. Use it while you can because it will expire like mine did. Plus its not really being dishonest they gave you a second code and you did technically purchase it again, view it as a flaw in their system rather than something you did

[danomicar]

On 11/13/2019 at 8:02 AM, Sat1600 said:

I purchased a ryzen 2700x at microcenter for $160. Then the price dropped to $130. I went in for a price adjustment which they were happy to do. They refunded the original purchase and repurchased at the new price.

 

Here is the thing. The CPU came with a game code for borderlands 3 or outer worlds. I sold the code for $30. When I did the return. rebuy the system spit out another code automatically.

 

So I feel like I'm not really entitled to a second code. The guy who purchased my first code has not had any problems. I feel funny about claiming or selling the new code. 

 

On the other hand I feel like the code is already generated. Does AMD pay for the code only once redeemed? Or is it already paid for and now there is no way to return it and I may as well use it?

 

Thoughts?

Enjoy your free game, as while this may not be intentional, a ~$60 mistake is not worth yours or their time to correct.

[Founders]

If you don't feel good about using it yourself you have two other options. You can either leave the code unused or you can give it away to a friend or family member. 

[RoseLuck462]

When the Note 7 came out, I did the Samsung promo for the free 256gb SD card. A week later when I had to return the Note 7 and switched it for the S7 EDGE, I did the promo again and got another 256gb SD card.

 

Don't feel bad about taking advantage of deals like that.

[mr moose]

They're your morals and you have to sleep with them, not me or anyone else on this forum.  As far as I am concerned humanity only has two sides, on one side we're all fucked because we are human and there is no helping that, on the other hand if we don't start basing our decisions and expectations on decency and and some form of moral code then we are doomed to always be on the first side.

[AndreiArgeanu]

Just give it away to a friend, who perhaps likes the game but never considered buying it. Or give it away to anyone for that matter. In this case it doesn't really matter, it's only a code, AMD probably buys them for dirt cheap, you can sell it, doesn't change much anyway. If you really want to, you can just leave the code and forget about it if you must. I mean the developer in theory already got payed by AMD for that very code that got shipped with your CPU as they usually buy a limited number of code.

So yeah, you either sell it, give it away, or at last just throw the code away in the bin and forget about it.

[TheKDub]

On 11/13/2019 at 9:02 AM, Sat1600 said:

I purchased a ryzen 2700x at microcenter for $160. Then the price dropped to $130. I went in for a price adjustment which they were happy to do. They refunded the original purchase and repurchased at the new price.

 

Here is the thing. The CPU came with a game code for borderlands 3 or outer worlds. I sold the code for $30. When I did the return. rebuy the system spit out another code automatically.

 

So I feel like I'm not really entitled to a second code. The guy who purchased my first code has not had any problems. I feel funny about claiming or selling the new code. 

 

On the other hand I feel like the code is already generated. Does AMD pay for the code only once redeemed? Or is it already paid for and now there is no way to return it and I may as well use it?

 

Thoughts?

 

AMD likely gets the codes extremely cheap from the publisher, so don't feel too bad about it. They're either paid for by advance or at time of purchase.

 

Microcenter sold me my motherbaord (ASUS Strix Z370-G Wifi AC, MSRP $185) for like $65 on accident when I tried getting the price marked down because it dropped between the time I ordered it online and when I went to pick it up. I guess they forgot a 1 or something. Great day for me. Probably not so great for the manager that rang me up, if it was even noticed afterwards.