How to reach sub ambient temps.

[The_One]

If you’re hear to learn I’ll gladly help you improve your current system temps. Have a bachelors computer science, also have a certificate in HVAC and an associates in HVAC-R. I’ve been building PCs since 2002, have around 5,100+ builds under my belt, from major companies to personal users. I studied all cooling methods for personal computers. I can confidently say I have reached the higher of Pc cooling, weather it be aio or custom loop cooling.

[leo1798]

Have you ever worked with liquid helium?

[TheNaitsyrk]

21 minutes ago, The_One said:

If you’re hear to learn I’ll gladly help you improve your current system temps. Have a bachelors computer science, also have a certificate in HVAC and an associates in HVAC-R. I’ve been building PCs since 2002, have around 5,100+ builds under my belt, from major companies to personal users. I studied all cooling methods for personal computers. I can confidently say I have reached the higher of Pc cooling, weather it be aio or custom loop cooling.

I dunno. I stuck 14x Industrial Noctua iPPC 120mm 3000 RPM fans on all of my radiators + 2 pumps (3x 480mm and 1x 240mm to cool 2080 Ti SLI and 9900K), and I'm now about 8C away from ambient.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I dunno. I stuck 14x Industrial Noctua iPPC 120mm 3000 RPM fans on all of my radiators + 2 pumps (3x 480mm and 1x 240mm to cool 2080 Ti SLI and 9900K), and I'm now about 8C away from ambient.

I research this shit (PHD physics is here :D)

using more rad space /airflow etc will not really much improve your delta bcs youre near some physical limits on how efficiently the energy can be transferred form the silicon to the outside room

[TheNaitsyrk]

5 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

I research this shit (PHD physics is here :D)

using more rad space /airflow etc will not really much improve your delta bcs youre near some physical limits on how efficiently the energy can be transferred form the silicon to the outside room

I am aware. Best fans on the market, two pumps pushing liquid through a humongous loop, and lots of radiators and 3.5L of liquid or so. Ah yes, Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut thermal paste on everything too.

 

I don't think it can get better than this.

 

I could lower ambient, that would probably help.

[Metallus97]

3 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I am aware. Best fans on the market, two pumps pushing liquid through a humongous loop, and lots of radiators and 3.5L of liquid or so.

 

I don't think it can get better than this.

Lol how long does the liquid take to warm up

yes, I use them too. I have 8 140m and according rad space. I am doing full thrust F@H at 60-70 temps for CPU and GPUs with a noise level of around 35db. Thaaaaats nice. Love noctua and WC in general 

 

oh and also: the two pumps for pressure and getting everything through the loop are ok, but not for speed improvements. Benefits from faster water are near non existant in PC WC. I uses 50-60L/min and that's super super enough. Maaaaany peeps running thier pumps to fast

[Jurrunio]

Are you any good at building and maintaining aquariums that use a compressor though?

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

Lol how long does the liquid take to warm up

yes, I use them too. I have 8 140m and according rad space. I am doing full thrust F@H at 60-70 temps for CPU and GPUs with a noise level of around 35db. Thaaaaats nice. Love noctua and WC in general 

I have no idea, there's no probe. But after gaming for ages, the 1st GPU is like at 34C and 2nd is at 37C. CPU hoovers between 41-45C.

[Metallus97]

Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

I have no idea, there's no probe. But after gaming for ages, the 1st GPU is like at 34C and 2nd is at 37C. CPU hoovers between 41-45C.

I use a Aquacomputer Aquastream pump. Got tonnnns of sensors and a really nice software to monitor your loop. Even over the internet, perfect for monitoring my F@H box

[knightslugger]

only 3000 RPM? Y not 6000?

(probably because most fan headers can't go above 5A, and you're cranking 2.8A / fan)

 

and yes these are INCREDIBLY loud.

 

[TheNaitsyrk]

4 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

I use a Aquacomputer Aquastream pump. Got tonnnns of sensors and a really nice software to monitor your loop. Even over the internet, perfect for monitoring my F@H box

I don't think I need any to be fair haha.

 

If GPUs boost to 100% and CPU is cold (which it is) I'm happy.

 

I'm switched from ML120 Pro fans to 3000 Industrial iPPC 3000 RPM.

 

I'm still forced to use Corsair Commander Pro sadly, but at least these can go to 500 RPM (I TRIED! IT WORKS WOO!)

 

Corsair ML120 Pro CFM75 vs CFM110 of Noctua.

Static pressure of 4.2H20 vs 7.63H20. Same voltages on both fans!

2400RPM on Corsair vs 3000RPM on Noctua

17.99 for Corsair vs 22.99 for Noctua price wise.

 

Therefore Noctua fans will achieve same results with lower RPM.

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

only 3000 RPM? Y not 6000?

(probably because most fan headers can't go above 5A, and you're cranking 2.8A / fan)

 

and yes these are INCREDIBLY loud.

 

 

Look I do water-cooling to have silence and a nice sleep or be able to concentrate when my rig is on full thrust

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, Metallus97 said:

Look I do water-cooling to have silence and a nice sleep or be able to concentrate when my rig is on full thrust

With Commander Pro I have the best of both worlds. All fans are software controlled. They all go to 500 RPM.

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I don't think I need any to be fair haha.

 

If GPUs boost to 100% and CPU is cold (which it is) I'm happy.

 

I'm switched from ML120 Pro fans to 3000 Industrial iPPC 3000 RPM.

 

I'm still forced to use Corsair Commander Pro sadly, but at least these can go to 500 RPM (I TRIED! IT WORKS WOO!)

 

Corsair ML120 Pro CFM75 vs CFM110 of Noctua.

Static pressure of 4.2H20 vs 7.63H20. Same voltages on both fans!

2400RPM on Corsair vs 3000RPM on Noctua

17.99 for Corsair vs 22.99 for Noctua price wise.

I am happy when I am well under 40db

welll noctua is boss (and expensive)

[TheNaitsyrk]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

I am happy when I am well under 40db

welll noctua is boss (and expensive)

The only problem is that they are all ticking slightly at low low RPM but barely audible and I can live with it for having the best fans possible.

[Metallus97]

Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

The only problem is that they are all ticking slightly at low low RPM but barely audible and I can live with it for having the best fans possible.

yeh I noticed this to but only on some units. The not industrial ones are not doing this. I got some black non industrial. They are not as robust and fast but for our use fine as well. But now that I got the PPC (I got them over the normal ones bcs of color and at the time the chromax where not announced) ill keep them. ticking is only audible when I hold my head near the system

[TheNaitsyrk]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

yeh I noticed this to but only on some units. The not industrial ones are not doing this. I got some black non industrial. They are not as robust and fast but for our use fine as well. But now that I got the PPC (I got them over the normal ones bcs of color and at the time the chromax where not announced) ill keep them. ticking is only audible when I hold my head near the system

EXACTLY. I can only hear if I'm looking for the sound close with my ear.

[The_One]

I see some people doubt what I’m doing here is legit. I’ve been using the pc in question all day today and the most I’ve hit was 32c

 

But for the skeptical, I’ll have the Pc set on prime95 either tonight or tomorrow. It will run a full 12 hours and I will report it back.

[knightslugger]

46 minutes ago, The_One said:

I see some people doubt what I’m doing here is legit. I’ve been using the pc in question all day today and the most I’ve hit was 32c

either you're pulling cold air from outside, phase changing, or you're using entirely too much power to chill the incoming air. not a new concept. usually ends in disaster.

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, The_One said:

But for the skeptical, I’ll have the Pc set on prime95 either tonight or tomorrow. It will run a full 12 hours and I will report it back.

You are on very thin ice here. So better make it count. Or else you get laughed out of here.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

wrong concept, you RAISE THE ambient temps at faster rate than your system

[Blai5e]

10 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

You are on very thin ice here. So better make it count. Or else you get laughed out of here.

To be fair, his specs show a 65W Ryzen 7-1700 running on a Corsair H-60 running push-pull.

 

12 hours ago, The_One said:

I see some people doubt what I’m doing here is legit. I’ve been using the pc in question all day today and the most I’ve hit was 32c

My CPU is currently idling (except for ICUE's dashboard to get the readings and Firefox) at 32°C which is 5°C above the coolant temperature of my CPU + 2 x GPU loop.

 

14 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I dunno. I stuck 14x Industrial Noctua iPPC 120mm 3000 RPM fans on all of my radiators + 2 pumps (3x 480mm and 1x 240mm to cool 2080 Ti SLI and 9900K), and I'm now about 8C away from ambient.

Remember; once you have enough radiator to keep the components in check, any extra (apart from possibly keeping noise down) just extends the time your rig will take to normalise loop temperature.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Blai5e said:

To be fair, his specs show a 65W Ryzen 7-1700 running on a Corsair H-60 running push-pull.

 

My CPU is currently idling (except for ICUE's dashboard to get the readings and Firefox) at 32°C which is 5°C above the coolant temperature of my CPU + 2 x GPU loop.

 

Remember; once you have enough radiator to keep the components in check, any extra (apart from possibly keeping noise down) just extends the time your rig will take to normalise loop temperature.

YES! 

SOOOO manny peeps here do one about being boss and having the biggest D.... uhm PC/Cooling Setup...

 

and some even write stuff that is physically not possible

[Tristerin]

12 hours ago, knightslugger said:

either you're pulling cold air from outside, phase changing, or you're using entirely too much power to chill the incoming air. not a new concept. usually ends in disaster.

 

11 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

You are on very thin ice here. So better make it count. Or else you get laughed out of here.

 

 

 

This whole thread is based on this thread.  Where he claimed to make a build, his first, and how his H60 in push pull reaches Sub Ambient temps.  Then says hes made 1.3 rigs per day since 2002 plus mining warehouses, tech corporations etc.

 

The thing is, even after mod closed it, he messages me and yet...All I have asked him to do even in the message is just prove he is doing it with what he said he was doing it.  (basically tits or gtfo)

 

Then he made this thread.  Makes me giggle.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

 

 

 

 

This whole thread is based on this thread.  Where he claimed to make a build, his first, and how his H60 in push pull reaches Sub Ambient temps.  Then says hes made 1.3 rigs per day since 2002 plus mining warehouses, tech corporations etc.

 

The thing is, even after mod closed it, he messages me and yet...All I have asked him to do even in the message is just prove he is doing it with what he said he was doing it.

 

This whole thread makes me laugh.

Thank you for saying it!

i am just here to watch physics and explain

bcs sub ambient with water to air NOOOO