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Skylake in 2019?

What are peoples opinions on Skylake in 2019 ? Does it keep up when overclocked in current games. Is there any need to upgrade?

 

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skylake does just fine in gaming. Intel has been sitting on their hands for a few generations, the gains from Skylake to Coffee lake are not that large. My brother has an i5 6600 (upgraded him from a 7400) and it does quite alright for non-multitasking and CPU easy games.

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I7? Should be okay for a while.

 

I5? Upgrade for AAA gameplay.

 

The real question is do you already have it, or are you considering buying it?

 

If you don't already have it, don't buy it.

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6 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

Is there any need to upgrade?

That's up to the user to decide, there's no such thing as a point you're obligated to upgrade when the CPU can still do what you need it to do.

 

That aside however, quadcores are entry level nowadays, even the i7 6700K is no longer considered a high/mid end chip.

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I'm still using an Ivy Bridge quad core (locked, no overclocking) and I get 60fps at 4K Ultra just fine in almost everything and my GPU is the bottleneck.

It depends entirely on what you are doing. E.g. what games and settings.

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    EVGA 980ti Hybrid
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    Corsair 570x
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    Intel Enterprise SSD and 2x WD Red 3TB
  • PSU
    EVGA SuperNova 650G2
  • Cooling
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    This is my rig as it stands. Just wondering on what the general consensus on skylake vs newer chips in 2019. 
     
    How to i add a signature ? Am i being stupid as i cannot find it

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There's no bad product, but a bad price. Also depends on what you're doing with it and what the rest of the system looks like.

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Just now, jackboy1607 said:

This is my rig as it stands. Just wondering on what the general consensus on skylake vs newer chips in 2019. 

Skylake architecture aged badly. Only Kaby Lake aged worse since it's directly before the core count race.

 

for now tho it's good enough until you play some really CPU heavy games or do CPU heavy tasks. I'm using a similarly fast GPU on a 2600k, 6 years older than your CPU :D

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

How to i add a signature ? Am i being stupid as i cannot find it

https://linustechtips.com/main/settings/signature/

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6 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:
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    This is my rig as it stands. Just wondering on what the general consensus on skylake vs newer chips in 2019. 
     
    How to i add a signature ? Am i being stupid as i cannot find it

You could consider a new GPU if you want higher resolution or refresh; the 7700k which is essentially the same as your CPU still beats Ryzen 2000 and matches Ryzen 3000 in most games.

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14 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

You could consider a new GPU if you want higher resolution or refresh; the 7700k which is essentially the same as your CPU still beats Ryzen 2000 and matches Ryzen 3000 in most games.

Mainly Using it for 4K Gaming ... Seems to be doing okay in most things just wondering if its likely i am CPU Bound

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6 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

Mainly Using it for 4K Gaming ... Seems to be doing okay in most things just wondering if its likely i am CPU Bound

At 4k almost definitely GPU bottlenecked. I wouldn't worry about upgrading your CPU if you play at 4k. I would actually think about upgrading the GPU far before I would touch the cpu. 

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15 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

Mainly Using it for 4K Gaming ... Seems to be doing okay in most things just wondering if its likely i am CPU Bound

Outside of specific games, you won't be any more CPU bound than you would be if you had a Ryzen 7 3700x.

 

For 4k gaming, I'd definitely recommend upgrading the 980ti.

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15 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

At 4k almost definitely GPU bottlenecked. I wouldn't worry about upgrading your CPU if you play at 4k. I would actually think about upgrading the GPU far before I would touch the cpu. 

Ah okay, I did wonder.... Where would you go from the 980ti ... preferably without spending loads ?

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4 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

Ah okay, I did wonder.... Where would you go from the 980ti ... preferably without spending loads ?

 

Depends on your budget, but a 2070 super for $499 or an RX 5700XT at $399 might do you nicely.

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

 

Depends on your budget, but a 2070 super for $499 or an RX 5700XT at $399 might do you nicely.

5700XT is that actually that much better than the 980ti ???  Also Would i be getting into the realm of CPU Bottlenecks even with my fairly hefty OC with the 2070 Super ? 

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10 minutes ago, jackboy1607 said:

5700XT is that actually that much better than the 980ti ???  Also Would i be getting into the realm of CPU Bottlenecks even with my fairly hefty OC with the 2070 Super ? 

Even with a 2080 ti, the 7700k isn't a significant bottleneck over the Ryzen competition, most of the time.

 

Keep in mind this is stock 7700k, your 4.9ghz 6700k is faster. And these are 1080/1440p, at 4k the bottleneck would be less.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jackboy1607 said:

Would i be getting into the realm of CPU Bottlenecks even with my fairly hefty OC with the 2070 Super ? 

As has been said, as long as you are using 4K and high to Ultra settings you will always be GPU bottlenecked.

Even with a 2080 Ti you would be bottlenecked in any recent title. For older games less so but you only need over 60hz if your monitor can handle it. Most 4K monitors can't and no GPU can play the latest titles at a solid 144fps 4K ultra.

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2 hours ago, jackboy1607 said:

Ah okay, I did wonder.... Where would you go from the 980ti ... preferably without spending loads ?

2070 super or above we be what I would shoot for. Maybe wait for the 2080 super and see how that fairs. If this is too much then I would just sit on what you have currently because anything less than that wouldn't be enough of an increase in performance to justify spending money on a new card. 

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2 hours ago, jackboy1607 said:

5700XT is that actually that much better than the 980ti ???  Also Would i be getting into the realm of CPU Bottlenecks even with my fairly hefty OC with the 2070 Super ? 

At 4k you could run a locked i5 7400 and it likely wouldn't make a difference with a 2070 super. At 4k the 6700k will have no issue keeping up with a 2070 super and would even say a 2080 ti wouldn't be held back by a 6700k at 4k in 99% of games. 

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Cool so basically my 6700k is perfectly fine for the moment.... If I'm wanting smoother 4k gameplay then I'm looking at a new GPU....

 

How would 980 TI SLI fair against say a 2070 super Vs 2080 super? I can get a 980ti for sub 200 now so I would be looking at a significant discount Vs one of the newest cards. I know SLI is far from perfect but would I see significant gains? 

 

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