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Posted · Original PosterOP

My brother bought a few Vega cards from best buy we paid $248 for the vega 56 and $340 for the vega 64 variation. 

But I feel like the Vega 64 is overpriced for it's performance, was the extra $96 worth the performance? 

He picked up the last 3 just to resell them. 

I still think the Vega 56 is best value for the money. 


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The difference is around 10-15%. Not really worth it.

 

You could probably overclock the V56 to V64 performance levels.


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Vega 56 got the fine wine treatment, and at the price point it's pretty good deal.   340 isn't really overpriced for a vega 64 tbh.  it's 1080 performance where as the vega 56 was 1070 performance.  90-100 bucks for a tier up isn't that bad, tbh.  If you want overpriced look at the 2080 Ti.  That's just a straight fuck you to the consumer.


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2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

The difference is around 10-15%. Not really worth it.

 

You could probably overclock the V56 to V64 performance levels.

Depends on the cooling.  You have to remember the vega 56 was originally the 1070 rival.  Both got the fine wine treatment, iirc.  The 1080 rival was the vega 65.  That's just the going rate for those on the market.  You can oc the vega 64 beyond the 56's limit and get better performance.


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Vega 64 is roughly 10% faster than Vega 56 if I remember right. Biggest difference comes from HBM 2 clocks, since Vega cards in general are somewhat limited by memory bandwith.

However, Vega 56 has much more room for overclocking. On synthetic benchmarks, undervolting, overclocking a bit and raising power limit makes Vega 56 up to 15% faster compared to stock. I am not saying that Vega 64 doesn't have room for OC, but they can have same HBM2 clocks and GPU clocks. 

3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Vega 56 got the fine wine treatment, and at the price point it's pretty good deal.   340 isn't really overpriced for a vega 64 tbh.  it's 1080 performance where as the vega 56 was 1070 performance.  90-100 bucks for a tier up isn't that bad, tbh.  If you want overpriced look at the 2080 Ti.  That's just a straight fuck you to the consumer.

Vega 56 has always been faster than 1070 (unless you watch HardwareCannucks comparison video, where they benchmarked every single heavily Nvidia optimized title -.-), hence why 1070 Ti exists


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Vega56 for $248 is a pretty good buy. That's not much more than the cost of an RX590. Which model is it? Blower style cooler or open air?
As long as the cooler is decent then you could overclock the Vega56 and get a decent performance boost, but if it's for 1080p gaming then stock should be able to handle most AAA games without issue.

The $340 for the Vega 64 is a pretty good deal as well, but when compared to the good price you got the Vega 56 for it's hard to compare.


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1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Vega 56 got the fine wine treatment, and at the price point it's pretty good deal.   340 isn't really overpriced for a vega 64 tbh.  it's 1080 performance where as the vega 56 was 1070 performance.  90-100 bucks for a tier up isn't that bad, tbh.  If you want overpriced look at the 2080 Ti.  That's just a straight fuck you to the consumer.

>.< rtx 2080ti it's called price overkill. 


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Just now, Quadriplegic said:

Vega 64 is roughly 10% faster than Vega 56 if I remember right. Biggest difference comes from HBM 2 clocks, since Vega cards in general are somewhat limited by memory bandwith.

However, Vega 56 has much more room for overclocking. On synthetic benchmarks, undervolting, overclocking a bit and r aising power limit makes Vega 56 up to 15% faster compared to stock.

Vega 56 has always been faster than 1070 (unless you watch HardwareCannucks comparison video, where they benchmarked every single heavily Nvidia optimized title -.-), hence why 1070 Ti exists

Has it?  I thought it was on par with the 1070 then got the fine wine treatment.  I skipped over Vega due to the scalped prices at the time.  


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9 minutes ago, JayzSub said:

>.< rtx 2080ti it's called price overkill. 

It's because they have no competition at that price point and that's about it.  At least EVGA and a few others dropped the prices down to 1050-1100.  1200 is just asking too much, but I do remember people assuming there wouldn't be an RTX Titan to justify the price.  But nope, just a straight f u to the consumer.


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4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Vega56 for $248 is a pretty good buy. That's not much more than the cost of an RX590. Which model is it? Blower style cooler or open air?
As long as the cooler is decent then you could overclock the Vega56 and get a decent performance boost, but if it's for 1080p gaming then stock should be able to handle most AAA games without issue.

The $340 for the Vega 64 is a pretty good deal as well, but when compared to the good price you got the Vega 56 for it's hard to compare.

They're the "Asus Strix OC gaming" variety 


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1 minute ago, JayzSub said:

They're the "Asus Strix OC gaming" variety 

Oh...
No wonder your brother bought extras to sell. Quick look at eBay and they're listed for around $350 for used cards.


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Just now, valdyrgramr said:

Has it?  I thought it was on par with the 1070 then got the fine wine treatment.  I skipped over Vega due to the scalped prices at the time.  


Well, difference was somewhat small at the beginning, it took some time for drivers to mature and developers to start giving a damn. I am not sure if that counts as fine wine, as it was still AMD's most recent card at that time :V 
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2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Oh...
No wonder your brother bought extras to sell. Quick look at eBay and they're listed for around $350 for used cards.

So it was a good buy? 


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1 minute ago, JayzSub said:

So it was a good buy? 

Well, if he bought them with the intention to resell at a profit, then I would wait to see if he can sell them and how much of a profit he makes before you conclude definitively whether or not it was a good decision. Money talks.


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56 unlocked to a 58 or something and overclocked is for sure the best value


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1 hour ago, JayzSub said:

My brother bought a few Vega cards from best buy we paid $248 for the vega 56 and $340 for the vega 64 variation. 

But I feel like the Vega 64 is overpriced for it's performance, was the extra $96 worth the performance? 

He picked up the last 3 just to resell them. 

I still think the Vega 56 is best value for the money. 

the 56 will probably sell faster, % gains probably the same for both cards. I personally would buy the 56 only for those prices.


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I just scooped up a MSI Vega 56 Air Boost OC for $200 USD to upgrade my dad's GTX 970. Confirmed in GPU-Z that it did have Samsung memory, as the seller advertised. So I flashed it with the BIOS for a Vega 64 Air Boost OC and netted a free 7-8% raw fps boost.

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If anyone is interested, Newegg has Sapphire Nitro Vega 64's going for less than the 56 variant.  Like $400 for the Vega 64.  

 

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-100410nt-sr/p/N82E16814202321

 

The Nitro, or the Asus are really the only two Vega models to buy if you want the full potential of a Vega card.  And $400 for the V64 Nitro is a great deal.  I've been using the Nitro 56 for about 7 months now, and it's killer.  

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1 hour ago, pstarlord said:

If anyone is interested, Newegg has Sapphire Nitro Vega 64's going for less than the 56 variant.  Like $400 for the Vega 64.  

 

https://www.newegg.com/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-100410nt-sr/p/N82E16814202321

 

The Nitro, or the Asus are really the only two Vega models to buy if you want the full potential of a Vega card.  And $400 for the V64 Nitro is a great deal.  I've been using the Nitro 56 for about 7 months now, and it's killer.  

My brother has the asus Vega 56 and Powercolor versions they're both very good in quality as well


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Vega 56 is the balanced real deal of the Vega team and AMDs offerings. Plus you can flash these 56s into 64 (if you have the right memory) if you want.
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