Directx12?

[Haba3608]

Hey guys so I am going to get windows ten and get directx12  I have a gtx 970 and I just got it and now i need a new cpu. I know that amd lacks behind in single core gaming and every one says intel. My motherboard doesn't work with intel cpus and I was thinkin about getting a new one and getting an intel cpu but then at the same time I am thinking, Won't amd cards start performing better and catching up to into because they can use all there cores? So do I get the amd fx 8370e and wait for directx12 and then it can use all 8 cores or do I get a new mobo and get the intel i5. Also I really need to upgrade and I am kinda on a low budget im using an amd fx 4300 with my 970 and the bottlekneck IS SO HARD. Also will I notice a huge frame increase cause most games my frames are low even once I got the new gpu I am guessing its the CPU, lets say with my gpu im getting 30 frames on a game and I get the new intel cpu how much increase would I see? Also just estimations on your opinions on whether or not I would see a huge frame increase and for those who dont know the 4300 is pretty much worse then an i3. SO DO I GET AMD WITH 12 OR JUST GO INTEL??????

[Tedster]

I would still go with Intel, even if you had to go super low-end intel. The cheapest i3 and the cheapest H81 board you can find should give you a far better experience.

[Haba3608]

I would still go with Intel, even if you had to go super low-end intel. The cheapest i3 and the cheapest H81 board you can find should give you a far better experience.

Do you think amd will be alot better with 12 or not because I saw it was going to use all cores and it was supposed to change gaming or is it all just over hype from microsoft?

 

[SirWendall]

Do you think amd will be alot better with 12 or not because I saw it was going to use all cores and it was supposed to change gaming or is it all just over hype from microsoft?

 

I'm sure it will

[Haba3608]

I'm sure it will

would it make it worth getting an amd cpu thats what I am wondering about IDK WHAT TO GET

[SirWendall]

would it make it worth getting an amd cpu thats what I am wondering about IDK WHAT TO GET

I have a FX6300 and I like my gaming experience

[Phenakist]

The last amd chip I had was the phenom II x4 955be and it served me well. I was originally going to go for the FX8350 but checked the reviews and decided that it just was not for me and went with the I7 4770k. 

 

I game a lot but I also 3d model, so that was why I got the i7 over the i5. Gaming specifically you can settle on an I5 and save money without losing performance. It is a fantastic chip and would never see myself going back to AMD until they really bring a competitor to the table, the prices of AMD chips reflect that paradigm.

 

If DX12 is really the game changer then that is fantastic for multi core gaming, that being said I think reviewing it before it's even released and put into practise is a mistake and will only lead to disappointment. 

[Haba3608]

The last amd chip I had was the phenom II x4 955be and it served me well. I was originally going to go for the FX8350 but checked the reviews and decided that it just was not for me and went with the I7 4770k. 

 

I game a lot but I also 3d model, so that was why I got the i7 over the i5. Gaming specifically you can settle on an I5 and save money without losing performance. It is a fantastic chip and would never see myself going back to AMD until they really bring a competitor to the table, the prices of AMD chips reflect that paradigm.

 

If DX12 is really the game changer then that is fantastic for multi core gaming, that being said I think reviewing it before it's even released and put into practise is a mistake and will only lead to disappointment. 

since my pc is so bottleknecked if I get an i5 how big of a frame difference will I see?

[Br3tt96]

since my pc is so bottleknecked if I get an i5 how big of a frame difference will I see?

The i5 will be amazing! I use to have a fx 6300 and when I upgraded it was night and day difference.

[Phenakist]

My setup is as follows :-

 

GPU: GTX 970 G1

CPU: 4770k i7 (4.2OC)

Mobo: RoG maximus iv

 

I only upgraded the GPU about a month or 2 ago from a Radeon 7970 and I can definately feel it. With that aside games that I can remember taking note of FPS :-

 

- War thunder 120-150fps (250-300 in some scenarios) (planes only, cant remember fps with ground combat)

- Chivarly 100-120fps (ragdolls turned down lowish, decreasing fps as you turn up the ragdolls)

- CS:go 120fps

- Rising storm 120fps

 

This is gaming 1080p on one monitor. A good cpu would do good with a card such as the 970

[IateMApoo]

One of main things of DX12 is to reduce the need for powerful CPU for gaming, in theory gap between AMD and Intel should narrow down quite a lot with DX12.

[Kc7vwc]

But is Dx12 gonna be able to do anything within the first year after release!? I sure hope it leverages hardware better, but the software has to have support in there too to some degree. And that we won't see for aa while.

[Haba3608]

One of main things of DX12 is to reduce the need for powerful CPU for gaming, in theory gap between AMD and Intel should narrow down quite a lot with DX12.

Thats what im saying Idk if I should upgrade now or wait and see!

[Nena Trinity]

Hey guys so I am going to get windows ten and get directx12  I have a gtx 970 and I just got it and now i need a new cpu. I know that amd lacks behind in single core gaming and every one says intel. My motherboard doesn't work with intel cpus and I was thinkin about getting a new one and getting an intel cpu but then at the same time I am thinking, Won't amd cards start performing better and catching up to into because they can use all there cores? So do I get the amd fx 8370e and wait for directx12 and then it can use all 8 cores or do I get a new mobo and get the intel i5. Also I really need to upgrade and I am kinda on a low budget im using an amd fx 4300 with my 970 and the bottlekneck IS SO HARD. Also will I notice a huge frame increase cause most games my frames are low even once I got the new gpu I am guessing its the CPU, lets say with my gpu im getting 30 frames on a game and I get the new intel cpu how much increase would I see? Also just estimations on your opinions on whether or not I would see a huge frame increase and for those who dont know the 4300 is pretty much worse then an i3. SO DO I GET AMD WITH 12 OR JUST GO INTEL??????

Okay 1 what mobo ya got?

 

And 2 how bad is your current FPS in the problem games?

 

Then 3 what games is it?

[ApolloX75]

Dx12 isn't backwards compatible. Its not going to be a magical unicorn cure for weak IPC. The only improvement for AMD is going to come from drawcalls issuing from multiple cores rather than one.

The Witcher 3 and a couple other brand new titles are supposed to be set up to use Dx12 as soon as its available but many, many many other games won't be updated. Don't expect Dx12 to become mainstream for at least another year or so.

Any DX11.2 and down game that is weak on the FX series will remain so.

Upgrade to an i5 and you will see a massive improvement over your FX4. You can go for an FX8350 or similar if you want, its really up to you. But keep in mind they require a high quality motherboard to keep them at peak clocks, even stock.

In the end all we can do is make sure your decision is as informed as we can make it.

[Nena Trinity]

Dx12 isn't backwards compatible. Its not going to be a magical unicorn cure for weak IPC. The only improvement for AMD is going to come from drawcalls issuing from multiple cores rather than one.

The Witcher 3 and a couple other brand new titles are supposed to be set up to use Dx12 as soon as its available but many, many many other games won't be updated. Don't expect Dx12 to become mainstream for at least another year or so.

Any DX11.2 and down game that is weak on the FX series will remain so.

Upgrade to an i5 and you will see a massive improvement over your FX4. You can go for an FX8350 or similar if you want, its really up to you. But keep in mind they require a high quality motherboard to keep them at peak clocks, even stock.

In the end all we can do is make sure your decision is as informed as we can make it.

I think if he needs a new mobo he might aswell swap to Intel!

[ApolloX75]

I think if he needs a new mobo he might aswell swap to Intel!

My thoughts exactly!

[Analog]

What board do you have? If it is anything else but a 990FX one, I wouldn't bother going with a 8370, because the others are not meant for overclocking, let alone such a power-hungry processor and the 8370s 4GHz core clock will be definitely a bottleneck in CPU dependent games.