insanely high temps on i5 4690k?

[Growlith1223]

Hello, my Intel core i5-4690k recently arrived today, i slapped it in, and, i seem to be reaching 100c on load? idle is 50-60c

 

i have redone the thermal paste twice now and it doesn't seem to affect anything.

 

this is at stock by the way. im using a Cooler master Seidon 120v water cooler that i only had for like 2 weeks now.

 

i understand that it's a haswell processor which means the temps are going to be a bit high but i don't think it's supposed to be that high!

 

i am thinking of delidding it and maybe see if that will help with temps.

and help would be appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

Growlith1223

 

EDIT: i should also mention that i am getting a huge throttle, about a 45% throttle

[xToFxREAPER]

Hello, my Intel core i5-4690k recently arrived today, i slapped it in, and, i seem to be reaching 100c on load? idle is 50-60c

 

i have redone the thermal paste twice now and it doesn't seem to affect anything.

 

this is at stock by the way. im using a Cooler master Seidon 120v water cooler that i only had for like 2 weeks now.

 

i understand that it's a haswell processor which means the temps are going to be a bit high but i don't think it's supposed to be that high!

 

i am thinking of delidding it and maybe see if that will help with temps.

and help would be appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

Growlith1223

Uhmm theres something seriously wrong there, maybe double check your mounting hardware isnt bent or damaged and that the cooler itself is seating properly, if it is then there may be a faulty pump resulting in no flow thus causing temps to rise

[Askew]

Is the pump even working properly in the cooler?

 

Are you 100% sure it's mounted properly? How are you applying compound?

[Growlith1223]

yes i am sure the pump is working properly, i can hear the water flowing through it.

 

im fairly certain i mounted it properly, im applying the compound by doing the rice grain trick

[MegaDave91]

Roughly a pea sized blob of thermal paste is needed. If you use too much you can actually experience opposite side effects and the thermal paste will act as a nice warm blanket over the cpu.

[Growlith1223]

yea i've already known about the whole side effect thing, lol

 

here's on idle:

 

here's on load:

[KamiKatze]

I wouldn't even bother with this chip. Send it back and get a new one. You shouldn't have to delidd in order to fix this.

 

btw. do you have the Intel stock cooler? That would be a great reference to see where the fault is at. With the stock cooler you can expect temps of up to 80 °C under load but mostly below. 

[Growlith1223]

yea i still have the stock cooler sitting on my desk, i'll try and see what temps i get with that

[KamiKatze]

yea i still have the stock cooler sitting on my desk, i'll try and see what temps i get with that

 

Great. that will tell..

 

btw. you have to quote people so they get notifications.

[LogicalDrm]

What stress testing method you use and what are volts under full load? If CPU does same with stock cooler, you can RMA it since its way too high for stock chip.

[Growlith1223]

I have fixed it, seems the pump wasn't plugged in all the way, not sure how i missed that but it's fixed and i was able to overclock to 4.4GHz on stock volt! , i hit about 78-80c with prime95 now

 

What stress testing method you use and what are volts under full load? If CPU does same with stock cooler, you can RMA it since its way too high for stock chip.

 

I use the Intel Extreme Utility, the stock cooler was actually cooler than the water block before i fixed it ha the volt is 1.25

[KamiKatze]

I have fixed it, seems the pump wasn't plugged in all the way, not sure how i missed that but it's fixed and i was able to overclock to 4.4GHz on stock volt! , i hit about 78-80c with prime95 now

 

 

I use the Intel Extreme Utility, the stock cooler was actually cooler than the water block before i fixed it ha the volt is 1.25

 

78-80 °C doesn't sound like stock volts to me. But great overclock you got there!

[Growlith1223]

well, the original volt was about 1.1v if i remember correctly, the current voltage is 1.25 lol, i am gonna try and see if i can get stock voltage on 4.4GHz as well

 

Edit thank you to those who have helped me solve this <3 really appreciated!

[Sintezza]

coolermaster saidon 240 is just a standard midrange cooler.

 

So high temps on high overclocking is not realy wondering me, to be honnest.

 

Still 78/80 on 4.4Ghz is nice for that cooler.

If you wanne go higher you need a better cooler.

 

And still, i´m not very impressed with the "beloved" Devils Canyon overclocking capanbility´s.

 

I realy take that "Intel" Marketing BS, with one big grain of salt

[Growlith1223]

well, the devil's canyon(from what i know) was meant so everyone could technically get the same clock speed and everything, and yea, i know that the water block is mid-ranged lol

[Sintezza]

well, the devil's canyon(from what i know) was meant so everyone could technically get the same clock speed and everything, and yea, i know that the water block is mid-ranged lol

 

still 78/80 under load on 4.4 is a good result for that midrange cooler.

 

But Yeah DC is indeed ment for overclocking, thats what intel states lol

But yeah Technicaly on paper, is not allways what you see in the real world.

And thats the missleading part of the intel marketing.

 

Till now the highest OC that ive saw on a 4790K on all the 4 cores 8 Threads was 4.7 GHZ.

Thats offcourse a great number.

But i have seen haswell 1.0 chips reaching arround the same speeds aswell.

 

So yeah thats why i said, i take the whole intel marketing BS with DC with a big grain of salt.

Because it still is a matter of luck

 

[Growlith1223]

i should also mention that was with prime95, an application with unreal benchmarks lol

 

but yea, it is a decent clock speed. it's still a "good" series though

[jirehbobs]

I have fixed it, seems the pump wasn't plugged in all the way, not sure how i missed that but it's fixed and i was able to overclock to 4.4GHz on stock volt! , i hit about 78-80c with prime95 now

 

 

I use the Intel Extreme Utility, the stock cooler was actually cooler than the water block before i fixed it ha the volt is 1.25

 

Hey sorry for asking I know this was long before solved. But I'm having the same issue with my 4690k with even the same cooler. I know it is not the pump failing because I can feel the water flowing from the pipes.

 

 Can you explain how to "plug the pump in all the way"?

[Faceman]

Hey sorry for asking I know this was long before solved. But I'm having the same issue with my 4690k with even the same cooler. I know it is not the pump failing because I can feel the water flowing from the pipes.

 

 Can you explain how to "plug the pump in all the way"?

Do you have the pump plugged into your motherboard of PSU? Try plugging it into your PSU so that it runs at 100%. Also make sure the fan is running at an appropriate speed and is mounted properly.

What are ambient temps? What temps are you getting during what program(s) at what settings?

[jirehbobs]

Do you have the pump plugged into your motherboard of PSU? Try plugging it into your PSU so that it runs at 100%. Also make sure the fan is running at an appropriate speed and is mounted properly.

What are ambient temps? What temps are you getting during what program(s) at what settings?

 

I plugged the pump into the motherboard "cpu fan" pin. oh i dont have an adapater to plug it into my psu but will into that. I'll try mounting the fan again, I have it in a push pull config btw. Ambient temps i thing around 34c I'm not sure (it's quite hot here in the Phillipines). But last night when I posted my question it was quite chilly maybe 30-31c. I get at least 76-80c when playing ACU and Far cry 4 all at ultra settings except for AA turned down a bit. But the real catch is when doing blend test in prime95 it GOES UP TO 100C AND EVEN HIGHER! At that point I just stop prime95.

 

When idle temps are around 40c consistently. It's when I try to do a stress test that it all goes to hell.

 

Note that just 2 days ago I was using the same cooler for my fx 8320e OC at 4.2ghz (which was supposed to be hotter than the i5 if I'm not mistaken) and it worked like a charm.

 

I don't know if it is relevant to post my specs but here it is.

 

i5 4690k @ stock speed with turbo up to 3.9

Cooler Master Seidon 120v (bought just 2 months ago)

ECS Z87H3-A2X extreme (not that bad of a board to be honest)

Corsair Vengeance pro 2x 4gb 1866

Corsair cx750w

msi gtx 970

[Faceman]

I plugged the pump into the motherboard "cpu fan" pin. oh i dont have an adapater to plug it into my psu but will into that. I'll try mounting the fan again, I have it in a push pull config btw. Ambient temps i thing around 34c I'm not sure (it's quite hot here in the Phillipines). But last night when I posted my question it was quite chilly maybe 30-31c. I get at least 76-80c when playing ACU and Far cry 4 all at ultra settings except for AA turned down a bit. But the real catch is when doing blend test in prime95 it GOES UP TO 100C AND EVEN HIGHER! At that point I just stop prime95.

 

When idle temps are around 40c consistently. It's when I try to do a stress test that it all goes to hell.

 

Note that just 2 days ago I was using the same cooler for my fx 8320e OC at 4.2ghz (which was supposed to be hotter than the i5 if I'm not mistaken) and it worked like a charm.

 

I don't know if it is relevant to post my specs but here it is.

 

i5 4690k @ stock speed with turbo up to 3.9

Cooler Master Seidon 120v (bought just 2 months ago)

ECS Z87H3-A2X extreme (not that bad of a board to be honest)

Corsair Vengeance pro 2x 4gb 1866

Corsair cx750w

msi gtx 970

Ok, your ambient temp is really working against you.  That is hot.  Make sure that your CPU_FAN is running at 100%, this is the pump, you want it at 100%.  The Seidon 120V is a CPU cooler on the same level as a Hyper 212 EVO, so it is not some miraculously good performer, its good, but not great.  It is physically impossible for your i5 to be hotter than your FX.  The FX has more wattage and higher TDP.  The temp readings you get on your FX are also not entirely accurate, they use an algorithm and measure from the socket, not the actual cores.

 

Prime95 is an extreme torture test, and you are going to get very high temps with this, especially with your ambient.  You also have to set your voltage to manual/constant/override/static before stress testing, otherwise you get overvolting, which is why your temps are so high, along with it being strenuous and high ambient.  When you are done stress testing, revert back to adaptive voltage.  I wouldn't use P95 anymore though because it is just too hot in your region.

 

Your temps are actually normal once you factor in your ambient temperature.  Just make sure your pump is running at full speed, and your fans are running pretty fast also.

[jirehbobs]

Ok, your ambient temp is really working against you.  That is hot.  Make sure that your CPU_FAN is running at 100%, this is the pump, you want it at 100%.  The Seidon 120V is a CPU cooler on the same level as a Hyper 212 EVO, so it is not some miraculously good performer, its good, but not great.  It is physically impossible for your i5 to be hotter than your FX.  The FX has more wattage and higher TDP.  The temp readings you get on your FX are also not entirely accurate, they use an algorithm and measure from the socket, not the actual cores.

 

Prime95 is an extreme torture test, and you are going to get very high temps with this, especially with your ambient.  You also have to set your voltage to manual/constant/override/static before stress testing, otherwise you get overvolting, which is why your temps are so high, along with it being strenuous and high ambient.  When you are done stress testing, revert back to adaptive voltage.  I wouldn't use P95 anymore though because it is just too hot in your region.

 

Your temps are actually normal once you factor in your ambient temperature.  Just make sure your pump is running at full speed, and your fans are running pretty fast also.

 

Btw I forgot to mention that I tried using the stock air cooler from intel then did a stress test again. Temps only went higher than 80c after a couple of minutes, compared to my liquid cooler that shoots up to 100c and above in literally seconds.

 

UPDATE: I tried to re-mount the push-pull fan again, now it got even worse 47-50c at idle. Again this is with the liquid cooler.

[jirehbobs]

Ok, your ambient temp is really working against you.  That is hot.  Make sure that your CPU_FAN is running at 100%, this is the pump, you want it at 100%.  The Seidon 120V is a CPU cooler on the same level as a Hyper 212 EVO, so it is not some miraculously good performer, its good, but not great.  It is physically impossible for your i5 to be hotter than your FX.  The FX has more wattage and higher TDP.  The temp readings you get on your FX are also not entirely accurate, they use an algorithm and measure from the socket, not the actual cores.

 

Prime95 is an extreme torture test, and you are going to get very high temps with this, especially with your ambient.  You also have to set your voltage to manual/constant/override/static before stress testing, otherwise you get overvolting, which is why your temps are so high, along with it being strenuous and high ambient.  When you are done stress testing, revert back to adaptive voltage.  I wouldn't use P95 anymore though because it is just too hot in your region.

 

Your temps are actually normal once you factor in your ambient temperature.  Just make sure your pump is running at full speed, and your fans are running pretty fast also.

 

UPDATE AGAIN: I restarted my pc to go into the bios to configure the voltage. I didn't change anything yet in the bios mind you, just disabled xmp. Now it won't even boot to windows it just bsod's everytime.

 

Help anyone!

[Faceman]

UPDATE AGAIN: I restarted my pc to go into the bios to configure the voltage. I didn't change anything yet in the bios mind you, just disabled xmp. Now it won't even boot to windows it just bsod's everytime.

 

Help anyone!

Go back to your stock cooler.  I don't think you are mounting the water cooler properly.

[jirehbobs]

Ok now I'm using the stock air cooler and it booted to windows. Sadly windows restored my pc so I have to do a complete reinstall of apps again.