G3258 with Z97 or 4440 with B85?

[pastafingers]

Hello.

I'm going to buy a new rig for myself (here it is) and I've just remembered that Intel released a new CPU on their 20 year Pentium anniversary, and it's OCable. And I wonder... should I get the G3258 with a decent Z97 motherboard (maybe an ASUS Z97M-PLUS?) or an Core i5-4440 with an Asrock B85M-PRO4?

What I want to know is:

• should I buy the G3258 or an i5-4440?

• what would be the best bang for the buck Z97/B85 motherboard?

 

What I'm going to do with that rig:

 

• video editing (Premiere Pro, After Effects)

• audio development and editing
• heavy photo editing (via Lightroom)

• creative stuff (Photoshop, Illustrator)
• some programming
• light gaming (Sims 4, NBA 2K14 and beyond, NFS, Civ 5, SimCity, some BF4, maybe League of Legends)

• *the most obvious one* BASIC USAGE (internet browsing, file management, audio listening, movie watching and etc.)

 

 

What would You guys recommend? An OCable dual core w/o HT or just a stock quad core? And, which motherboard?

 

 

Thanks in advance!
John

[Rheinwasser]

neither? get an FX-8320.

[pastafingers]

neither? get an FX-8320.

[Sigmatech]

Hello.

I'm going to buy a new rig for myself (here it is) and I've just remembered that Intel released a new CPU on their 20 year Pentium anniversary, and it's OCable. And I wonder... should I get the  Core i5-4440 with an Asrock B85M-PRO4?

What I want to know is:

• i5-4440?

• what would be the best B85 motherboard?

 

 

Fix'd.

Only go Z97 if you are going SLi/ Overclocking...Which a 4440 does enough perf. to say no to really.

IMO i have a 4440 and it's great....but Z97 boards are too pricey for what it requires. Going back to AMD while i have time IMO.

[harrynowl]

Well i5 4440 is faster than the G3258 regardless of overclock really...

[Faa]

Don't really know how much fps people get in civ 5 so can't say if Intel is really worth it. The rest of your games are probs gpu bound. The 8320 might be a better solution.

[pastafingers]

I'm not going AMD because I'm doing some computing stuff too.

So, is i5-4440 @ stock + B85 better than G3258 OCed + Z97?

[Rheinwasser]

I'm not going AMD because I'm doing some computing stuff too.

So, is i5-4440 @ stock + B85 better than G3258 OCed + Z97?

but amd will still be better than these cpus. both of the combos are bad.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Rheinwasser

[pastafingers]

but amd will still be better then these cpus. both of the combos are bad.

what's bad in them, and what's better on the AM3(+) platform than on the LGA1150??

[Rheinwasser]

what's bad in them, and what's better on the AM3(+) platform than on the LGA1150??

z97 is extremely overpriced for that cpu.

4440 doesnt perform well.

am3+ has better value cpus.

[KingLich]

 

• video editing (Premiere Pro, After Effects)

• audio development and editing

• heavy photo editing (via Lightroom)

• creative stuff (Photoshop, Illustrator)

 

You don't want to do that on a G-series. Get at least a reasonable i5 (4590?) and an H97 board (Z97 if you go for a K part or plan on future SLI). You have some intensive stuff to pull off, you're going to love the extra horsepower.

[i_build_nanosuits]

i5-4440 + B85 hands down...and check, the i5-4460 is cheaper than the 4440 on many websites ATM...

[ltguy]

As soon as they said the aniversary pentium didnt have hyperthreading it was DOA.

[pastafingers]

^- This, get a H97 mb and spend that extra money on a i5 4590/4690 (one of those that fits in your budget)

https://flic.kr/p/nEEZJ2

not sure if the first one is different from the 2nd one. the prices are the same, but the model numbers aren't. they're both are the boxed versions

So, I think I'm marking that answer as [sOLVED]. Thank you all for helping!

P.S.: what H97 would you reccomend getting for me?

[Jumper118]

Well i5 4440 is faster than the G3258 regardless of overclock really...

we'll see about that

[harrynowl]

we'll see about that

In theory you'd have to run at close to 6Ghz on both cores. 

 

And it has less L3.

 

I don't think so .

 

At 4.6 I think it'd whoop the i3, and get within 20% of i5.

 

Also see my christmas project in signature, it should be interesting. It's about the size of 2 xbox 360s so it fits in my rucksack for work

[Jumper118]

In theory you'd have to run at close to 6Ghz on both cores. 

 

And it has less L3.

 

I don't think so .

 

At 4.6 I think it'd whoop the i3, and get within 20% of i5.

 

Also see my christmas project in signature, it should be interesting. It's about the size of 2 xbox 360s so it fits in my rucksack for work

6.2ghz+ at least. ambitious, not going to happen without ln2 . that christmas project looks good.

[pastafingers]

@harrynowl - great X-mas project!

I just want to ask you, guys, what mATX (or uATX) H97 motherboard would you reccomend? Asus H97M-PLUS anyone?

[pastafingers]

Pick the one you like most, personally I prefer Gigabyte but that's me also forgetting fanboyism those new models support heavier heatsinks

which particular one you would recommend?

[fringie]

The new devils canyon chips won't really benefit you since you're not oc'ing so if you see a good deal on the h81/b85 platform + I'm p sure theirs lots of deals on normal haswell i5's so if you're adamant you want intel then that's the best way to go in my opinion. The IPC hasn't been improved with devils canyon, you get like 100mhz more so the only real benefits when not OC'ing is from the motherboard but it sounds like you're on a budget so I doubt you'll get many of the nice new features if any from the newer mobo's.

 

I don't get why you're so anti amd , like what the fuck is the statement below (genuinely pisses me off)?

 

I'm not going AMD because I'm doing some computing stuff too.

Define 'Computing stuff' and then define what AMD's 8350 excels at please. Gaming CPU wise AMD aren't so good and yeah, Intel at the moment pretty much wipe the floor with AMD chips but AMD chips offer a really good price/performance ratio AND the 8000+ fx series are still very good at non gaming tasks. When gaming is out of the equation I'm pretty sure the 8350 performs like the i7 3770k (I remember seeing a few videos tek syndicate etcetc).

[i_build_nanosuits]

@harrynowl - great X-mas project!

I just want to ask you, guys, what mATX (or uATX) H97 motherboard would you reccomend? Asus H97M-PLUS anyone?

i would go with the gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H as well, the H97M-PLUS is a very nice board but you could save 20$ or so by going with the gigabyte offering, that's what i would do.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Define 'Computing stuff' and then define what AMD's 8350 excels at please. Gaming CPU wise AMD aren't so good and yeah, Intel at the moment pretty much wipe the floor with AMD chips but AMD chips offer a really good price/performance ratio AND the 8000+ fx series are still very good at non gaming tasks. When gaming is out of the equation I'm pretty sure the 8350 performs like the i7 3770k (I remember seeing a few videos tek syndicate etcetc).

indeed for multi-threaded tasks the FX 8 core cpu's are unbeatable price/performance, and they can play most games very well...in any rendering or encording tasks that require 8 threads processing those chips do perform similar to core i7-3770K, no doubt...looking at the LTT cinebench R15 results will confirm this, they are better multi-threaders than a core i5-4670K...but for gaming, it's another story...

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0