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What's QA? Pixel 3/XL Users Notice Texts Disappearing

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/11/13/pixel-3-users-noticed-text-messages-vanishing/

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According to a tip we've received, the latest security update (Nov 5th) could be causing text SMS messages to disappear for some.

 

Our tipster is not the only one to notice this, either, as there are several similar reports on Reddit with even more commenters chipping in to say they too have experienced the problem. Users of both the Pixel 3 and 3 XL have been affected — and many of them hadn't backed up their messages since getting the phone, amplifying the annoyance and inconvenience.

From one of the Reddit sources linked:

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I was getting ready for work yesterday and I grabbed my phone to text someone and noticed that all of my messages were erased. I had 2 years of messages that had transferred over from my OG Pixel to my new Pixel 3 and no problems at all.

Now they are just gone, despite restarting, uninstall/install updates, take out sim, and chat with Google help.

They said that the engineers were working on it and they have no solution for me...

I understand that programming is hard, being a programmer by trade, but I fail to see how, especially in recent years, companies can take the PR hit of having 2 years of messages wiped off several people's phones due to a "bug." Bugs like this used to be a big deal, now it's not even really considered a problem. I will say that keeping 2 years of messages on your phone seems a bit odd, but I can't fault a user for thinking they're safe, especially considering that cloud messaging systems have been around forever with no issues about messages being deleted. If I had to guess, this is a bug with the sync process, and the server pushed what it thought was an up-to-date set of messages. How it thought a completely empty set was "correct" is probably what's being worked on right now.

 

Even still, just flipping through /r/GooglePixel casually shows more than a few posts regarding software problems, or hardware problems with these flagship devices. This isn't exclusive to Google though, with Microsoft offloading QA to its "insiders" or Apple pushing betas to people to encourage testing (and they still release broken stuff). That's saying nothing of the "early access" phenomenon with video games. Even now at my job, QA has fallen down the road to the end users instead of our dedicated QA department, who mostly works solely on problems with our real-time systems. It's like companies just don't care about QA anymore.

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a camera phone is definitely worth all of this issues, plus more, at 800$

 

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12 hours ago, HarryNyquist said:

QA has fallen down the road to the end users instead of our dedicated QA department, who mostly works solely on problems with our real-time systems. It's like companies just don't care about QA anymore.

"Testing in Production", unfortunately kind of becoming bad trend IMO

Finally got PS4 Pro

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amazing phone. Such build quality. Wow software.

One day I will be able to play Monster Hunter Frontier in French/Italian/English on my PC, it's just a matter of time... 4 5 6 7 8 9 years later: It's finally coming!!!

Phones: iPhone 4S/SE | LG V10 | Lumia 920 | Samsung S24 Ultra

Laptops: Macbook Pro 15" (mid-2012) | Compaq Presario V6000

Other: Steam Deck

<>EVs are bad, they kill the planet and remove freedoms too some/<>

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The thing is unlike Apple, Google makes most of their money from Android not from Pixel sales. So even if Pixels sells less number of units, it only makes maybe 1% difference in their profit. Google makes most of their profit from the software.

 

Apple on the other hand will cease to exist without the sales of iPhones

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I assume someone on the QA team caught this and texted the team lead but the text disappeared.  

muh specs 

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Just now, Speed Weed said:

Someone make my text gon meme. 

New phone who dis?  

 

 

 

New phone who dis? 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

New phone who dis?  

 

 

 

New phone who dis? 

Imagine your girl send you a long ass blank text, and you reply with Ok?

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7 minutes ago, Speed Weed said:

Imagine your girl send you a long ass blank text, and you reply with Ok?

It's gonna end well

Spoiler

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I wonder if this issue is on the Oneplus 6/6T as well since they are on a pretty recent security update as well.

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On 11/15/2018 at 8:19 AM, avg123 said:

The thing is unlike Apple, Google makes most of their money from Android not from Pixel sales. So even if Pixels sells less number of units, it only makes maybe 1% difference in their profit. Google makes most of their profit from the software.

 

Apple on the other hand will cease to exist without the sales of iPhones

Apple existed long before iPhones. It’s a major part of their income but their a computer company

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I can't believe people actually bring apple into this topic.

 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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