Not able to register on LTT forum with PIA enabled

[Guest]

Hi there,

 

So I just registered for this forum (obviously) but for doing so I needed to disable PIA which is a bit subpar. With PIA disabled, everything worked fine. With PIA enabled, the "Are you a human?" tickbox required me to select some cars and store fronts (you know the deal) but then the anti-spam system rejected my request to register.

 

I managed to get here, but thought it might be worth to notice that.

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I'm going to move this into the bugs and issues area just so we can get an official an technically knowledgeable response on the matter

[Syntaxvgm]

48 minutes ago, felixlinker said:

Hi there,

 

So I just registered for this forum (obviously) but for doing so I needed to disable PIA which is a bit subpar. With PIA disabled, everything worked fine. With PIA enabled, the "Are you a human?" tickbox required me to select some cars and store fronts (you know the deal) but then the anti-spam system rejected my request to register.

 

I managed to get here, but thought it might be worth to notice that.

that's google recaptcha. It's fucking shit because it's looking at what the average person does, and if that damn car or stop sign has a bit that's BARELY in a square, it's 50/50 whether you're supposed to pick it. Actually picking all squares if often rejected. 

This will happen to a lot of sites on PIA, including a google search in a new session (ie private mode). This is because on PIA (or any VPN service), you may be sharing an IP address with many people trigger flood control. You also may run into banned ip addresses from some websites, as others using it did something and the admin doesn't know that in 2018 you don't ip ban anymore. 

I can still find some IPs on PIA that aren't hit by flood control, just hop around a bit on odd countries if you're having and issue. 

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

that's google recaptcha. It's fucking shit because it's looking at what the average person does, and if that damn car or stop sign has a bit that's BARELY in a square, it's 50/50 whether you're supposed to pick it. Actually picking all squares if often rejected.

I know that feeling. Once I went through probably 10 of those for Discord login.

[Syntaxvgm]

21 minutes ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

I know that feeling. Once I went through probably 10 of those for Discord login.

They make me want to scream. I was really good at guessing the old ones, but I've always hated the idea of recaptcha- you can be right but still wrong because the majority was wrong. In 2018 because of capable AI it makes sense, but in the past it used ot make me want to scream when I typed in one right and recaptcha would be like "nope, fill out that form again asshole."

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

that's google recaptcha. It's fucking shit because it's looking at what the average person does, and if that damn car or stop sign has a bit that's BARELY in a square, it's 50/50 whether you're supposed to pick it. Actually picking all squares if often rejected. 

This will happen to a lot of sites on PIA, including a google search in a new session (ie private mode). This is because on PIA (or any VPN service), you may be sharing an IP address with many people trigger flood control. You also may run into banned ip addresses from some websites, as others using it did something and the admin doesn't know that in 2018 you don't ip ban anymore. 

I can still find some IPs on PIA that aren't hit by flood control, just hop around a bit on odd countries if you're having and issue. 

It's not just google recaptcha, I think. Because when I ticked the "I'm a human box" and solved one or two "Select all pictures that have X on it" the captcha showed me that I indeed was successfully validated as a human. Only when I clicked "Register now" or whatever the button says, I was prompted the error message.

[colonel_mortis]

The "detected as a spammer" system uses a third party list of known spammer IP addresses and emails, so if someone has been posting spam on other sites from that IP, the IP will have been flagged up by that.

I am aware of a significant number of false positives (and false negatives) from the spam service recently, so at some point I plan to review its usefulness. For now though, spam is a problem, so I am unwilling to disable it without being confident about what the consequences will be.

[Guest]

On 11/8/2018 at 10:50 PM, colonel_mortis said:

The "detected as a spammer" system uses a third party list of known spammer IP addresses and emails, so if someone has been posting spam on other sites from that IP, the IP will have been flagged up by that.

I am aware of a significant number of false positives (and false negatives) from the spam service recently, so at some point I plan to review its usefulness. For now though, spam is a problem, so I am unwilling to disable it without being confident about what the consequences will be.

Thanks for getting back to this. For me this thread was not about "disable anti spam system pls" but "I think you might be interested in this"; whatever the outcome might be, I'm fine with it

[TheKDub]

On 11/6/2018 at 3:24 PM, Syntaxvgm said:

This will happen to a lot of sites on PIA, including a google search in a new session (ie private mode).

Simple way I found for getting around this: Go to https://google.com/ then search for something, rather than doing it from a new tab. Or use a different search engine in those situations such as DuckDuckGo.

[Syntaxvgm]

On 11/10/2018 at 6:26 PM, TheKDub said:

Simple way I found for getting around this: Go to https://google.com/ then search for something, rather than doing it from a new tab. Or use a different search engine in those situations such as DuckDuckGo.

i can make it work if I was on myh regular internet on the same session recently. But if I start a new private window it might happen. 

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

On 11/7/2018 at 3:03 AM, LoGiCalDrm said:

I know that feeling. Once I went through probably 10 of those for Discord login.

takes the life out of me when you have to press all the images and it takes ages to load the next image, its infuriating. 

[iamdarkyoshi]

On 11/8/2018 at 2:50 PM, colonel_mortis said:

I am unwilling to disable it without being confident about what the consequences will be.

Oh god, even more weight loss spam threads

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23 hours ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Oh god, even more weight loss spam threads

Could be worse.  You should check the "LTT Official" section.  Almost every single thread there is spam for some electronics product, all started by the same couple of spammers.