i just need to budget my build a little more

[Duky]

so, recently i got a new gaming PC! Its great. but my friend can't play with me because to buy one its too expensive he said.

so, i said if he gets the parts i'll build it for him. So, i pushed up a list of parts, but his budget is $600 and what i've got costs $699 how can i push it down? Specs are here:

 

Motherboard: ASRock AB350M HDV - $79
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38198?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6rXeBRD3ARIsAD9ni9CBVfPBFj43cZ5o3KQp3D8p7yjc7lWeyHYdepS-cm7K0Cl_vD9P2roaAi-uEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Processor: AMD A6-9500 2-core AM4 @3.5GHz APU Processor - $67
https://www.umart.com.au/AMD-A6-9500-2-Core-AM4-3-5GHz-APU-Processor_39872G.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vmMf1ka2_qxSux76colE1rWcYj0PB1BxSRY0MK73tzWmqdQNA47lOUaAuPXEALw_wcB

RAM: Corsair Value Select CMV8GX3M2A1600C11 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - $89
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/26688?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vkqL4rc7NxPSZRUXQmgjUuzWQONqg7sp8oaXq2P2YWZbmJtwPB-H6YaAkNVEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Western Digital WD Blue 1Terrabyte Hard Disk - $59
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/21231?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vlaoOhAZis3Gm94_10ACUF3yzfmp8YfMagm6JqJ6UQj-BHQdfl4xJ8aApyJEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Graphics Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 560 16CU Gaming OC 4GB - $209
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39279?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vkgbfIgxIenlCRHoM-w5yzOXdSL61dDIpHS_xwlwHv0F116hCkuv3kaAqZ4EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Fans: Cooler Master SickleFlow X 120mm Red LED Fan ($9 for one, $27 for 3)
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/24832?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vnLP9cUmNn-28WzHJj6pZLzBE0CPtDH1DabyLnh9_yAvTfLXtnS5TIaAg3tEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

WIFI Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND Wirless N PCI Express Adapter - $19
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/19577?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6rXeBRD3ARIsAD9ni9DVAdFtgBEHWRQF2OXx_lurvgiYYgbLCFmQ7EU5cOTmkIWqfYv_K5YaAswKEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Case: Cougar MX330 Windowed Mid-Tower Case - $55
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39699?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vmvPttjapBGEIZx_QJhk2v_JhU0wOCVlpoxfShEdw8fwHyfosg7UsYaAlvqEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Power Supply: Corsair CX650 650W Power Supply - $95
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39235?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjbveBRDVARIsAKxH7vnQybmAo0Mg47WGxpNz06Svu5DnNhPkbtYJdKlnNtuZ4S7FLF0IAyQaAljtEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

TOTAL:
$699

[Bananasplit_00]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P9G3jy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P9G3jy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.90 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($60.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($27.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - VS 550W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $555.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-24 03:41 EDT-0400

 

something like this? its not perfect but much better

[Spotty]

7 minutes ago, Duky said:

Motherboard: ASRock AB350M HDV - $79
Processor: AMD A6-9500 2-core AM4 @3.5GHz APU Processor - $67

First off, don't buy this. It will essentially be useless for gaming.

 

You're going to struggle to build a decent custom gaming PC for under $600 AUD. Instead, check out 2nd hand deals on ebay and gumtree. You may be able to find a i7 2700/i7 3770 + GTX 970-type card for a few hundred bucks. You may even could go a system without a GPU with a decent CPU and RAM, and then add in a 2nd hand GTX 1060/GTX 970 or such. You'll probably have to add in a SSD as well, and if you still have money left over then upgrading the system to 16GB of RAM (if it doesn't already come with it) will help as well.

 

3 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

something like this? its not perfect but much better

The stores he's linked are Aus stores, so that $555 USD build isn't going to happen for $600 AUD. (Works out to $822 AUD when I switch PCPPs location to Aus)

[NelizMastr]

This would be a better place to start. Might perform a bit less graphics wise, but at least the CPU isn't shit. Board could be cheaper, but B450 at least works with the 2200G without BIOS updates.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($140.00 @ Storm Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($125.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3 (Windowed) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($65.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $603.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-24 18:44 AEDT+1100

[Duky]

9 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

This would be a better place to start. Might perform a bit less graphics wise, but at least the CPU isn't shit. Board could be cheaper, but B450 at least works with the 2200G without BIOS updates.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($140.00 @ Storm Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($125.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Crucial - BX500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3 (Windowed) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($65.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $603.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-24 18:44 AEDT+1100

Tysm

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($78.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($68.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($125.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Silicon Power - Silm S55 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($199.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $605.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-24 18:57 AEDT+1100

 

This is the best you can get new.

 

CPU isnt great and will need to be swapped out. 

 

GPU is good and will hold out for quite some time.

 

Doesnt include a case and the PC will run on top of the motherboard box

 

Honestly. Go for the 2200G build and get a GPU later. I am just tossing this out there as an option as it is the "best" you can get without going used. 

Edited October 24, 2018 by GoldenLag

[Duky]

24 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($78.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($68.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($125.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Silicon Power - Silm S55 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($32.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.50 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($199.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $605.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-24 18:57 AEDT+1100

 

This is the best you can get new.

 

CPU isnt great and will need to be swapped out. 

 

GPU is good and will hold out for quite some time.

 

Doesnt include a case and the PC will run on top of the motherboard box

 

Honestly. Go for the 2200G build and get a GPU later. I am just tossing this out there as an option as it is the "best" you can get without going used. 

I'm wondering, is the Graphics Card good for overclocking. If not, could you give me a little more info on this:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GAMING
Apparently its decent and good for overclocking, just not too sure.

[BigDamn]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j7RsP3
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j7RsP3/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($159.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($46.98 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($38.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($18.85 @ OutletPC)
Total: $615.56
 

Just a hair over $600. You could drop down to a Ryzen 2200G but I would say the 2600 is worth the extra money.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Duky said:

I'm wondering, is the Graphics Card good for overclocking. If not, could you give me a little more info on this:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GAMING
Apparently its decent and good for overclocking, just not too sure.

Tldr. Dont buy the 1060 3GB.

 

Its horrible value and the Vram isnt enough for modern titles 

 

If youbhave another 50$ over the rx 570. Get the rx 580. Its as fast as the 1060 6GB but a lot cheaper. 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

[BigDamn]

3 minutes ago, Duky said:

I'm wondering, is the Graphics Card good for overclocking. If not, could you give me a little more info on this:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GAMING
Apparently its decent and good for overclocking, just not too sure.

The 1060 3gb is a waste of a graphics card. If you're getting a 1060 get the 6gb.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, BigDamn said:

-snip-

Its 600 Australian Dollars.......

[GoldenLag]

Just now, BigDamn said:

The 1060 3gb is a waste of a graphics card. If you're getting a 1060 get the 6gb.

In australia AMD GPUs are better value due to pricing. This is across almost all price tiers. Yes, even Vega

[BigDamn]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Its 600 Australian Dollars.......

A gaming rig for 600 AUD? Good lord...

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

A gaming rig for 600 AUD? Good lord...

Its a perfectly fime budget to work with

[Duky]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Its a perfectly fime budget to work with

Ok. so i've narrowed it down to this:

 

Motherboard: Asrock AB350M-Pro4 Motherboard - $68
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=39617

RAM/Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 DDR4 3000MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM Black - $125
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=32756

SSD: Silicon Power 120GB S55 SSD III 2.5" R/W 560/530mb/s - $32
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=39210

Hard Disk: WD Blue 1TB SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD10EZEX - $54
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/wd-blue-1tb-sata-3.5-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex/WD10EZEX

GPU/Graphics Card: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 ROG Strix OC 4GB Video Card - $199
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-amd-radeon-rx-570-rog-strix-oc-4gb-video-card-ac03494

Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE 500w Power Supply - $50
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=44221

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3 2200G, 4 CORE AM4 CPU, 3.7GHZ 6MB 65W YD2200C5FBBOX W/WRAITH STEALTH COOLER FAN RX VEGA GRAPHICS BOX - $165
https://www.stormcomputers.com.au/product/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-4-core-am4-cpu-3-7ghz-6mb-65w-yd2200c5fbbox-w-wraith-stealth-cooler-fan-rx-vega-graphics-box/

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3 Mini Tower - $49
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=36739

TOTAL:
$742

Anyone know where i can get second hand parts that are cheaper? Also, i'm not sure when i'll even be getting the chance to do this so hopefully they are second hand and there is alot in stock.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Duky said:

Anyone know where i can get second hand parts that are cheaper? Also, i'm not sure when i'll even be getting the chance to do this so hopefully they are second hand and there is alot in stock.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox

 

Get the r3 1200 instead and overclock it. Its the same CPU as the 2200G, but without integrated Graphics.

 

Idk of any second hand websites, but R9 290x/390x/nano are good pickups from the used market. 

[Duky]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox

 

Get the r3 1200 instead and overclock it. Its the same CPU as the 2200G, but without integrated Graphics.

 

Idk of any second hand websites, but R9 290x/390x/nano are good pickups from the used market. 

Thanks, at the moment i'm at:
 

Motherboard: Asrock AB350M-Pro4 Motherboard - $68
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=39617

RAM/Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 DDR4 3000MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM Black - $125
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=32756

SSD: Kingston UV500 2.5in SATA SSD 120GB - $45
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42518?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsMDeBRDMARIsAKrOP7EOihPcNqA0JeNEAsfU7iigm5FkFutbdZgBQZXP_bwMNE59kna8jEAaAgorEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

GPU/Graphics Card: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 ROG Strix OC 4GB Video Card - $199
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-amd-radeon-rx-570-rog-strix-oc-4gb-video-card-ac03494

Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE 500w Power Supply - $50
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=44221

CPU: AMD RYZEN 3 2200G, 4 CORE AM4 CPU, 3.7GHZ 6MB 65W YD2200C5FBBOX W/WRAITH STEALTH COOLER FAN RX VEGA GRAPHICS BOX - $165
https://www.stormcomputers.com.au/product/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-4-core-am4-cpu-3-7ghz-6mb-65w-yd2200c5fbbox-w-wraith-stealth-cooler-fan-rx-vega-graphics-box/

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3 Mini Tower - $49
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=36739

TOTAL:
$701

However, thats BEFORE adding up with the cpu without intergrated. i'll do that now

[Duky]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TX4NnQ/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd1200bbaebox

 

Get the r3 1200 instead and overclock it. Its the same CPU as the 2200G, but without integrated Graphics.

 

Idk of any second hand websites, but R9 290x/390x/nano are good pickups from the used market. 

On all the websites its etheir sold out or too expensive.
Plus, that one doesn't come with extra fans and i'mma need it because i'm not putting in water cooling

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Duky said:

On all the websites its etheir sold out or too expensive.
Plus, that one doesn't come with extra fans and i'mma need it because i'm not putting in water cooling

R3 1200 does come with an CPU cooler, but it appears pcp AU is bugged again. It hasnt updated properly. 

 

So yes. Grab the 2200G to provide a more permanent solution, or the athlon 200GE to upgrade later on. 

[Duky]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

R3 1200 does come with an CPU cooler, but it appears pcp AU is bugged again. It hasnt updated properly. 

 

So yes. Grab the 2200G to provide a more permanent solution, or the athlon 200GE to upgrade later on. 

Ok, i'mma try to budget some more but if i can't i'll just have to tell my friend i need $100 extra

[Duky]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

R3 1200 does come with an CPU cooler, but it appears pcp AU is bugged again. It hasnt updated properly. 

 

So yes. Grab the 2200G to provide a more permanent solution, or the athlon 200GE to upgrade later on. 

I Just realised, i had a pretty expensive CPU and forgot to read your other message, that'll save me alot. So, i'll grab the one from your first message, and later on upgrade my friends computer. CPU Shouldn't matter too much tho as i can overclock it AND it doesn't affect FPS That much............ or, Does it? Will he get lag from your first post's cpu?

[Duky]

ALRIGHT! SO THANKS TO EVERYONES HELP I'VE COME UP WITH THIS (CPU will be upgraded later):

 

Motherboard: Asrock AB350M-Pro4 Motherboard - $68
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=39617

RAM/Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) CMK8GX4M2B3000C15 DDR4 3000MHz Vengeance LPX DIMM Black - $125
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=32756

SSD: Kingston UV500 2.5in SATA SSD 120GB - $45
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42518?PPC=Y&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsMDeBRDMARIsAKrOP7EOihPcNqA0JeNEAsfU7iigm5FkFutbdZgBQZXP_bwMNE59kna8jEAaAgorEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

GPU/Graphics Card: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 ROG Strix OC 4GB Video Card - $199
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/asus-amd-radeon-rx-570-rog-strix-oc-4gb-video-card-ac03494

Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE 500w Power Supply - $50
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=44221

CPU: AMD Athlon 200GE 3.2Ghz 2 Cores Radeon Vega Graphics AM4 CPU - $78
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/amd-athlon-200ge-3.2ghz-2-cores-radeon-vega-graphi/YD200GC6FBBOX

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3 Mini Tower - $49
https://www.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=36739

TOTAL:
$614

[Duky]

18 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

R3 1200 does come with an CPU cooler, but it appears pcp AU is bugged again. It hasnt updated properly. 

 

So yes. Grab the 2200G to provide a more permanent solution, or the athlon 200GE to upgrade later on. 

Sorry to message AGAIN, but will i need any extra case fans with this build?

[GoldenLag]

17 minutes ago, Duky said:

Sorry to message AGAIN, but will i need any extra case fans with this build?

Case fans arent neccesary. Most budget builds have a single casefan

[NelizMastr]

41 minutes ago, Duky said:

ALRIGHT! SO THANKS TO EVERYONES HELP I'VE COME UP WITH THIS (CPU will be upgraded later):

Word of warning. Ask the retailer you're getting the board from to update the BIOS for you. That 200GE will very likely not boot without the update.