Who is the 9900K for?

[Streetguru]

With the coming launch I have to ask, who exactly is the 9900K for?

 

price with basic cooler, higher end board for easier overclocking, still at least near $700 for the set up
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s9BDMZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s9BDMZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($529.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.26 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($179.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $734.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-11 20:56 EDT-0400

Ryzen Value option with like 80% of the performance, should still be doing 4.1-.2 ghz on that board
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6fn8Y
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z6fn8Y/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($265.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($103.13 @ Amazon)
Total: $368.13

12 core X399 option for general production performance

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dy7KXP
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dy7KXP/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5GHz 12-Core Processor  ($449.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MA621P TR4 53.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.35 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X399M Taichi Micro ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($303.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $793.32
 

Or just stick to an 8700K for like 90-95% of the gaming performance

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CrnTNQ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CrnTNQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($379.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.26 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $554.24
 

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So who exactly is going to be buying the 9900K? Especially over the 8700K if you really want an intel CPU? Maybe it'll be really good at premiere due to quick sync?

I'm pretty sure they didn't release an 8700K successor just to try and clear stock, doubt I'd ever recommend the 8 core/8 thread CPU they're releasing.

 

[agent_x007]

Ryzen 2700X buyers with cash to burn and/or need for 5GHz clock in CPU-z on Octa Core CPU.

[Jimkirk363]

I second the Ryzen 2700x.

[Slottr]

I think it's just lazy competition, they know they're Intel so they can sell a processor with a value increase that checks all the same boxes as the 'lesser' brand.

[Vegetable]

People like my brother lol. Back in 2015 he bought a 980 ti HOF and an i7 4790k, which was the best shit for gaming back then. He paired it with a 1600x900 60hz monitor he got for free from our hs. I always told him that it wasn't a good value proposition, but he said and I quote: "I don't care if it makes sense. I don't care if I could get better price/performance. I just want the best." - My older brother circa 2015

[TahoeDust]

It's for people who want the fastest gaming processor and/or the fastest non HEDT processor and will never miss the few hundred dollar.  Honestly if you are doing a high-end build, $350 can get lost in the shuffle.  You can spend that in fittings on a nice custom loop.

 

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

It's for people who want the fastest gaming processor and/or the fastest non HEDT processor and will never miss the few hundred dollar.  Honestly if you are doing a high-end build, $350 can get lost in the shuffle.  You can spend that in fittings on a nice custom loop.

 

 

Unless that extra 5-10% headroom really matters, an 8700K would get you a better GPU up to the 1080ti vs only getting a GTX 1070ti/1080 with the 9900K

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

9900k is for a new gamer who originally wants to buy a 9700k but find out it does not support hyper thread / SMT. and he must have very high end GPU and monitor first

[TahoeDust]

7 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Unless that extra 5-10% headroom really matters, an 8700K would get you a better GPU up to the 1080ti vs only getting a GTX 1070ti/1080 with the 9900K

What if you didn't have to chose 9900k/1080 or 8700k/1080ti and could afford a 9900k/1080ti (or god forbid a 2080ti) without it ever affecting your life?

 

Believe it or not there are enthusiasts who see this as a cheap hobby.  Plenty of car guys burn the cost of a full blown 9900k/2080ti rig on one track day.

 

Not all enthusiast/hobbyist are limited by budget to the same extent...and the 9900k is an enthusiast's chip.

[Hi P]

2 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

9900k is for a new gamer who originally wants to buy a 9700k but find out it does not support hyper thread / SMT. and he must have very high end GPU and monitor first

Do games support HT? (I didn't know)

[Xplo1t]

8 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

What if you didn't have to chose 9900k/1080 or 8700k/1080ti and could afford a 9900k/1080ti (or god forbid a 2080ti) without it ever affecting your life?

 

Believe it or not there are enthusiasts who see this as a cheap hobby.  Plenty of car guys burn the cost of a full blown 9900k/2080ti rig on one track day.

 

Not all enthusiast/hobbyist are limited by budget to the same extent...and the 9900k is an enthusiast's chip.

Exactly my thought as well.  Spending $5-6k a year on pc builds a year is the cheapest hobby I've had in a long time.  It was costing me $40-50k a year for car racing on top of the $65k car sticker price and $50k of modifications.  That was starting to get crazy and I'm finding this hobby much more enjoyable all around.

 

So for me, building a new 9900k + 2080Ti system to replace my 2700x + 1080 Ti SLI is an upgrade and something I look forward to doing. 

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Hi P said:

Do games support HT? (I didn't know)

hyperthreading/SMT is meaningless for what you're asking.

 

If you mean do games support or use more than 6 threads well, Then the answer is not really in most cases.

 

Ass creed unity scaled all the way to a 16 core 1950X, but the intel lower core count CPUs were still ahead

 

because most of the work rendering a game is on Core 0 and Core 1

[TahoeDust]

Just now, Xplo1t said:

Exactly my thought as well.  Spending $5-6k a year on pc builds a year is the cheapest hobby I've had in a long time.  It was cost me $40-50k a year in car racing on top of the $65k sticker and $50k of modifications.  That was starting to get crazy and I'm finding this hobby much more enjoyable all around.

 

So for me, building a new 9900k + 2080Ti system to replace my 2700x + 1080 Ti SLI is an upgrade and something I look forward to doing. 

Bingo. 

 

There are plenty of people out here that don't have to compromise, so why shoud they?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Xplo1t said:

 

Couldn't you dump that like $5k into the stock market or something instead?

Besides, that's certainly not the majority of people.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

3 minutes ago, Xplo1t said:

Exactly my thought as well.  Spending $5-6k a year on pc builds a year is the cheapest hobby I've had in a long time.  It was costing me $40-50k a year for car racing on top of the $65k car sticker price and $50k of modifications.  That was starting to get crazy and I'm finding this hobby much more enjoyable all around.

it make much sense if the just release a limited edition for this purpose instead of following apple and nvidia path. 

[TahoeDust]

Just now, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

it make much sense if the just release a limited edition for this purpose instead of following apple and nvidia path. 

What exactly are you trying to say here?...

 

 

[Xplo1t]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Couldn't you dump that like $5k into the stock market or something instead?

Besides, that's certainly not the majority of people.

And the 9900k is not meant for the majority of people just like most people aren't driving around a Rolls Royce or taking trips in a private plane.  The silicon is not high yield so Intel is charging a premium over something that is more easy to produce like a lower clock, 8-core 2700x without an iGPU.

 

Also, dumping $5k into the stock market would be a trivial, so no.

[TahoeDust]

Waiting for that 9900k...

 

[Streetguru]

28 minutes ago, Xplo1t said:

And the 9900k is not meant for the majority of people just like most people aren't driving around a Rolls Royce or taking trips in a private plane.  The silicon is not high yield so Intel is charging a premium over something that is more easy to produce like a lower clock, 8-core 2700x without an iGPU.

 

Also, dumping $5k into the stock market would be a trivial, so no.

M8 if $5k is pocket change to you feel free to toss some my way...

I suppose a proper title is what average consumer or enthusiast would buy a 9900K?

[TahoeDust]

11 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I suppose a proper title is what average consumer or enthusiast would buy a 9900K?

The average consumer 1000% should not buy the 9900k.  It would be a complete and total waste on them.  The average gamer or value oriented enthusiast, should probably not buy it either.  The people that can afford it and want the best are who should buy it.

 

[danrey84]

Don't forget you have them people aswell who may have not upgraded say since the 4790k and don't upgrade yearly but say every 3 to 5 years so when they do upgrade they buy the best irrespective if they need it or not. Personally IMHO if you have an 8700k you have no need to upgrade to this and if you did need more cores or threads all I would say to them is this. Why didn't you go x299 or even threadripper at the tine of you choosing the 8700k ??? Cause let's face it there was no guarantee that last year when the 8700k was launched that intel would bring an 8 core 16 thread cpu to the mainstream line up. Cause the 8700k did amazing in gaming, performed very well in creation and productivity. 

[Streetguru]

22 minutes ago, danrey84 said:

 

The 47xxK with an overclock is still perfectly fine for even 120hz gaming

[danrey84]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The 47xxK with an overclock is still perfectly fine for even 120hz gaming

I never said it wasn't...at what part in my statement did you see me say it wasn't?? 

[Streetguru]

Just now, danrey84 said:

I never said it wasn't...at what part in my statement did you see me say it wasn't?? 

Just a point for owners of that CPU

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

26 minutes ago, danrey84 said:

Don't forget you have them people aswell who may have not upgraded say since the 4790k and don't upgrade yearly but say every 3 to 5 years

3-5 years for an i5 user makes more sense, I7 shall be upgraded in 5-8 yrs