Canadian Music Group Proposes ‘Copyright Tax’ on Internet Use

[Andreas Lilja]

7 hours ago, Rodinski said:

Tax more, give less services.  Typical Canadian socialist policies.  Makes zero sense why anyone supports this crap.

When was the last time that they raised taxes?

[derr12]

15 hours ago, Raskolnikov said:

When was the last time that they raised taxes?

Right after they came into power.  nuked the income splitting that the cons put in and gave back in tax credits a little.  Claimed they lowered taxes on the middle class, fraser institute ran the numbers and concluded that middle class canadians on average are paying 800 dollars a year more in taxes.  They continue to spout their line as gosphel to this day when it is demonstrably false (by a liberal think-tank none the less.)

 

Dont get me started on this carbon tax business...  what a scam. 

 

[dalekphalm]

6 minutes ago, derr12 said:

Right after they came into power.  nuked the income splitting that the cons put in and gave back in tax credits a little.  Claimed they lowered taxes on the middle class, fraser institute ran the numbers and concluded that middle class canadians on average are paying 800 dollars a year more in taxes.  They continue to spout their line as gosphel to this day when it is demonstrably false (by a liberal think-tank none the less.)

 

Dont get me started on this carbon tax business...  what a scam. 

 

Let's be clear, income splitting was used by a tiny fraction of Canadians - most of which who were already in the upper income bracket. So nuking that did not hurt the Middle Class as a whole.

Also the Fraser Institute has a centre-right bias, as they are a conservative think-tank. That doesn't make their numbers wrong necessarily, but we must keep that bias in mind, as they may try to spin numbers to fit their world view.

[derr12]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

Let's be clear, income splitting was used by a tiny fraction of Canadians - most of which who were already in the upper income bracket. So nuking that did not hurt the Middle Class as a whole.

Also the Fraser Institute has a centre-right bias, as they are a conservative think-tank. That doesn't make their numbers wrong necessarily, but we must keep that bias in mind, as they may try to spin numbers to fit their world view.

Pardon my candor but, bullshit.  i made 55k the year it was in use.  When my wife and i were having kids (irish twins) she worked very little that year.  My returns went from 500 dollars back to over 3 thousand dollars. It made a significant impact keeping us fed during some of the more austere months.  The child tax credits that JT and crew put back in did help, but it equates to about half of what i was getting back under income splitting.

I will cede my opinion on the Frasier institutes political leanings tho.  I had heard them referred to as left leaning by other peoples on them internets.  Honestly i never vetted it.

Their math checked out in my case...

[dalekphalm]

9 minutes ago, derr12 said:

Pardon my candor but, bullshit.  i made 55k the year it was in use.  When my wife and i were having kids (irish twins) she worked very little that year.  My returns went from 500 dollars back to over 3 thousand dollars. It made a significant impact keeping us fed during some of the more austere months.  The child tax credits that JT and crew put back in did help, but it equates to about half of what i was getting back under income splitting.

I will cede my opinion on the Frasier institutes political leanings tho.  I had heard them referred to as left leaning by other peoples on them internets.  Honestly i never vetted it.

Their math checked out in my case...

If the child tax benefits are not enough, you should lobby your local MP to have the child tax benefits increased.

 

Income splitting was being absurdly abused by businesses by doing things like paying a 3 year old baby a $30,000/yr salary so that they could reduce their taxes. That's the main reason why the rules were changed.

[Franck]

On 10/6/2018 at 5:04 PM, Upierczi said:

So, if I buy a game on steam, e.g. GTA V and download it, then I'm pirating their music? What if someone watches Netflix on a daily basis in their 4k TV? This makes no sense whatsoever. It's like you see a house on fire, and someone is setting up their barbeque five blocks away and you blame them for the fire.

I like that analogy. Someone who have basic netflix account will use lets say 6 gb data but the 4k user who watches the same exact show will eat over 40 gb and will be taxes. This simply won't pass. It's marginalizing a group of people saying they are worst over another comparative group doing the exact same thing. Luckily we have consumer laws to protect and put their nose into all this mess / stupid idea.

[Nowak]

what happened in this thread lol

[Wintyr]

look the industry need to pay its lawyers somehow. too keep sueing old grandma's

[derr12]

On 10/29/2018 at 10:38 AM, dalekphalm said:

If the child tax benefits are not enough, you should lobby your local MP to have the child tax benefits increased.

 

Income splitting was being absurdly abused by businesses by doing things like paying a 3 year old baby a $30,000/yr salary so that they could reduce their taxes. That's the main reason why the rules were changed.

Honestly, if they could get child-care costs under control so it doesn’t cost my wife money to work a 22/hr job when you factor in gas, I wouldn’t need the child tax benefits. And I don’t mean subsidy’s for parents. seriously need to invest in day care centres and available staff (paying them more than 14/hr who just spent 10k+ in schooling would be a good start). We’d rather have us working than waiting till school age to get off the government teat. This isn’t really about what we are or aren’t getting. I’m more mad about being lied to, repeatedly, about the math. It’s not like I’m an outlier either. We are dreadfully average.