When you just need more eyes - LG's V40 with its total of 5 cameras unveiled in full

[D13H4RD]

6 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

yea, but after Nokia (original) and MS killing the name then some random company picking the mobile name up from the mud pile Nokia and MS left it in... I wouldn't ask the tiny company (which sounds like it is owned or started by Nokia) to make such a drastic design, if the name was still owned by either Nokia or MS then I would.

HMD Global, you mean?

 

They're technically made up by many veteran Nokia employees, so I think they can do it. They also revived that Zeiss partnership

[Egg-Roll]

5 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

HMD Global, you mean?

 

They're technically made up by many veteran Nokia employees, so I think they can do it. They also revived that Zeiss partnership

Ah ok, but still I wouldn't expect them doing something as extreme as such, as it would be a pricey gamble esp considering all the pseudo logic with current cameras in the phones being the best of the best...

Yes, I'm mocking every phone on the planet 

[DocSwag]

50 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Reviews so far say that while it's not very bright, it's much better than its prior generation

Do they say anything about black crush and black smear? Honestly I think that was one of the big issues with the previous generation pOLED displays that really didn't get talked about much at all by most of the media.

[D13H4RD]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Do they say anything about black crush and black smear? Honestly I think that was one of the big issues with the previous generation pOLED displays that really didn't get talked about much at all by most of the media.

Nothing much about it. I think they've finally managed to work out the kinks.

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Nothing much about it. I think they've finally managed to work out the kinks.

I'd imagine there'd still be some black crush no? iPhone X gets closest to almost none, but there's still a tiny bit. The new Samsung phones do have a bit of black crush though it's not as bad as previous gen pOLED displays. Probably we'll just have to wait for reviews from Anandtech.

[squallmx]

My next phone... a year from now... Meanwhile my V30 is good enough.

[D13H4RD]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I'd imagine there'd still be some black crush no? iPhone X gets closest to almost none, but there's still a tiny bit. The new Samsung phones do have a bit of black crush though it's not as bad as previous gen pOLED displays. Probably we'll just have to wait for reviews from Anandtech.

That's what I'm waiting for.

 

It should still be better than the V30 because if it isn't, then we have a problem.

[Mooshi]

I have the V30 currently. By the time I actually need a new phone, I might go iPhone since the trend is pretty much copy Apple. LG and Samsung aren't going to hold out forever.

[D13H4RD]

7 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

I have the V30 currently. By the time I actually need a new phone, I might go iPhone since the trend is pretty much copy Apple. LG and Samsung aren't going to hold out forever.

If that's happening, I might as well do the same. 

[dizmo]

2 hours ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Maybe Nokia could do it?

I think they're going to go with the more common many small camera design, just more of them. In a few years they might try to differentiate themselves with a super camera phone, and with phones like the 808 Pureview in their past, it wouldn't be surprising to see; I don't see them doing something with a foldable display, so maybe that'll be their way to set themselves apart. Especially since they've revived the Pureview name.

 

I hope they team up with a cameracentric company again.

1 hour ago, Egg-Roll said:

The Stylo 3 is a great phone (far better than the Stylo 2 Plus) I only pays $450 with tax with a case for it, it's the batteries that suck badly lol... I own and use 2 10,000 mah Battery Banks (typically just one because the other is usually lost), great for the times I need my phone for more than 2 hours but imo I shouldn't be forced to rely on them for 2+ hours of gaming after 1 year. (the banks would last me a full day or more in game) Tho to give credit considering the abuse I do to the battery losing about 45 minutes of in-game time (I got 3 hours if lucky when brand new, typically 2.5-2.75) isn't too bad and it has been at 2 hours for a few months now.

 

I think LG's issue is limited advertising which on their end makes sense, the issue is placed like LMG simply don't review LG/Others phones and when they do it's only the top tier ones, where as if you look at how many Sammy videos LMG has done for reviews(including the active and edge units)... Linus should try a model round up of everything mid range, he might even find some of them are decent daily drivers that act like top tier phones for half of the price (if not less)...

 

After Windows? Do you want to see the company get murdered/commit suicide?

Something like the Asus Zenfone 3 is about the same price, but IMO significantly better. Plus the 5000mah battery lasts days. I think most phones will struggle getting more than 2 hours of gaming in, though, as it's pretty intensive on the device. They're not really made for that.

 

Haha, perhaps, but without investment in advertising, you're going to simply fade away. It's a slow fade, but a fade non-the-less.

Linus isn't really a phone reviewer; I don't think it'd make a great deal of sense for him to invest in that.

 

Nokia's doing pretty well recently. They're getting more and more bold with their designs, and they themselves had said that they'll try more experimental designs this year as they've become more reestablished. With rumors of 5 cameras on the rear of the Nokia 9, I have no doubt they'll return to their former glory sooner rather than later.

[Bouzoo]

1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

Do they say anything about black crush and black smear? Honestly I think that was one of the big issues with the previous generation pOLED displays that really didn't get talked about much at all by most of the media.

Just to be clear, it was early P-OLED with issues. Later batches were more than fine, without issues. I'm waiting for proper review myself, but seeing how they made some OLED panels for iPhone XS Max, I'm gonna assume they did pretty well this time. 

[aezakmi]

mobile manufacturers reached the point where they don't really know what the fuck to add to devices but do it anyway so the money pump keeps working

all of these smart phones look the same and are made to last like what, 2 years?

 

same happened to PC hardware, there haven't been significant changes like new slots (except for M.2 maybe) or new ports so they just started adding crap like "RGB headers" or "wifi ac" just for the sake of adding something and have a reason to raise the prices, not to mention the shitty heatsink models or that chunk of metal over the rear ports that offer no actual performance increase over classic models

[Egg-Roll]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Something like the Asus Zenfone 3 is about the same price, but IMO significantly better. Plus the 5000mah battery lasts days. I think most phones will struggle getting more than 2 hours of gaming in, though, as it's pretty intensive on the device. They're not really made for that.

 

Haha, perhaps, but without investment in advertising, you're going to simply fade away. It's a slow fade, but a fade non-the-less.

Linus isn't really a phone reviewer; I don't think it'd make a great deal of sense for him to invest in that.

 

Nokia's doing pretty well recently. They're getting more and more bold with their designs, and they themselves had said that they'll try more experimental designs this year as they've become more reestablished. With rumors of 5 cameras on the rear of the Nokia 9, I have no doubt they'll return to their former glory sooner rather than later.

Perhaps, but next to the 2 units I bought earlier this year I avoid ASUS due to past issues with their products... Plus I'm set on using the Stylo 3 Plus for another year in hopes a better phone for the price comes out by then. The difference between the 2 and 3 where big enough to justify the upgrade after a year(mainly LTE on the 3 and a crappy fingerprint sensor on the 2), the newer versions not so much.

 

True, but equally can't blame them since it's a failing sector on their end, tho it really shouldn't be. While Linus isn't mainly a phone reviewer a yearly round up of say the 5 best spec phones for x year within a price range of 300-500 USD or something might not be a bad video to do, even if each unit is only used for a week. However Linus has a tendency of stating things that are obviously going to be missing as a disadvantage, which he should really not do... Even if the video only got 200,000 views (which is lower than the WAN show) ad sense alone would likely cover most of the phones purchase price... Tho I would at least try to do a budget phone round up once since they seem to have a spike of 200K views more at least (on average) than the other daily videos upon initial release. The reason why the Alcatel and Blackberry failed in views hard was due to $150 put into the title (should have been budget) and the face Linus put on the click bait image giving a initial negative impression causing a less likely to click to view video. In modern YouTube it comes down to titles and images for views, if Linus used the titles "Best Phones For Your Buck" with a image of him holding 5 phones smiling, how many would click it to watch?

 

It's good to hear they are bringing it back to life and willing to take risks, I stopped following them since they did Windows. So maybe my next phone will be theirs

[Bouzoo]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

I've owned a few of their phones. They're ok, but there's things like battery size and more importantly battery life that just fall short of the competition.

It depends on which phone you look at. V30 has I reckon the best battery life since G2 and it blew away every single flagship from last year with the same 3.300 mah. According to GSM Arena tests, it's on the same level as Mate 10 Pro or Pocophone F1 which come with 4.000 mah batteries and trust me, it really is that good. And after that G7 was fairly worse. 

 

 

If I can keep the bar to hide to notch the whole time, in normal usage and movies as well, I would consider upgrading, but I'm still on the fence. Too expensive at this point, disappointed on battery life, no Iris (wannabe Samsungs intelligent scan), lock button was moved from back, currently GCAM not available for SD845, only 64GB storage for the price. Launch it at $600-$700 and it's good. You can almost get Note 9 for current price. 

[Bouzoo]

2 hours ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

HMD Global, you mean?

 

They're technically made up by many veteran Nokia employees, so I think they can do it. They also revived that Zeiss partnership

Zeiss partnership is pure marketing nowadays. It has been long time since that branding has made any reassurance you'll get real quality. And I am sad, since I had few Nokia phones with Carl Zeiss optics a decade ago. I'd even go as far to say that Leica branding on Huawei phones is more trustworthy in this regard.

[D13H4RD]

29 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Zeiss partnership is pure marketing nowadays. It has been long time since that branding has made any reassurance you'll get real quality. And I am sad, since I had few Nokia phones with Carl Zeiss optics a decade ago. I'd even go as far to say that Leica branding on Huawei phones is more trustworthy in this regard.

Been a long while since the 808 PureView days...... 

 

I miss those times 

[dizmo]

22 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Perhaps, but next to the 2 units I bought earlier this year I avoid ASUS due to past issues with their products... Plus I'm set on using the Stylo 3 Plus for another year in hopes a better phone for the price comes out by then. The difference between the 2 and 3 where big enough to justify the upgrade after a year(mainly LTE on the 3 and a crappy fingerprint sensor on the 2), the newer versions not so much.

 

True, but equally can't blame them since it's a failing sector on their end, tho it really shouldn't be. While Linus isn't mainly a phone reviewer a yearly round up of say the 5 best spec phones for x year within a price range of 300-500 USD or something might not be a bad video to do, even if each unit is only used for a week. However Linus has a tendency of stating things that are obviously going to be missing as a disadvantage, which he should really not do... Even if the video only got 200,000 views (which is lower than the WAN show) ad sense alone would likely cover most of the phones purchase price... Tho I would at least try to do a budget phone round up once since they seem to have a spike of 200K views more at least (on average) than the other daily videos upon initial release. The reason why the Alcatel and Blackberry failed in views hard was due to $150 put into the title (should have been budget) and the face Linus put on the click bait image giving a initial negative impression causing a less likely to click to view video. In modern YouTube it comes down to titles and images for views, if Linus used the titles "Best Phones For Your Buck" with a image of him holding 5 phones smiling, how many would click it to watch?

 

It's good to hear they are bringing it back to life and willing to take risks, I stopped following them since they did Windows. So maybe my next phone will be theirs

I highly doubt he makes that much from AdSense Perhaps, but he just doesn't have the experience other users do; MKBHD and other YouTubers that test a wide variety of phones simply have more to offer in terms of a valuable, useful opinion.

 

Aye, they're relatively affordable and actually quite nice, though the mid range phones have ECC memory instead of UFS and that bothers me. Their top rangers have been so-so, nothing extremely stand out about them (though the Nokia 8 Sirocco is sexy AF). The refreshes have proven to be substantially better though.

5 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

It depends on which phone you look at. V30 has I reckon the best battery life since G2 and it blew away every single flagship from last year with the same 3.300 mah. According to GSM Arena tests, it's on the same level as Mate 10 Pro or Pocophone F1 which come with 4.000 mah batteries and trust me, it really is that good. And after that G7 was fairly worse. 

Ehhh not exactly. The Mate10 Pro destroys the V30 in battery life. The V30 has better stand by time, and that's where it gains it's higher rating; if one were to use the phone, the Mate10 would last quite a bit longer. The Pocofone lasts much longer when browsing, not as good in video. I mean, it's not as bad as I remember it being, but it could still use work; there's absolutely no reason web browsing should eat battery like that.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Is that top tiny thing supposed to function as a stereo speaker?

 

I don't see how that is working.

 

Notch is bad enough, but if it has the rest (including stereo sound) I can at least shrug the other way. If that isn't a decent stereo setup though, auto dis-recommendation considering the rest.

 

NOTE: Decent for phones isn't a high bar, I just don't want it sounding overly tinny.

[D13H4RD]

Welp, it's not coming to Canada 

 

https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/10/03/lg-v40-thinq-not-coming-to-canada/

[D13H4RD]

7 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Is that top tiny thing supposed to function as a stereo speaker?

 

I don't see how that is working.

 

Notch is bad enough, but if it has the rest (including stereo sound) I can at least shrug the other way. If that isn't a decent stereo setup though, auto dis-recommendation considering the rest.

 

NOTE: Decent for phones isn't a high bar, I just don't want it sounding overly tinny.

Nope, it's an earpiece.

 

It has a killer headphone jack and a resonance chamber though. 

[mrchow19910319]

ugly af.... 

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Nope, it's an earpiece.

 

It has a killer headphone jack and a resonance chamber though. 

Oh yay! resonance chamber. Cause that replaces stereo sound imaging for sure.... Not. Ouch, that is disappointing.

 

The DAC setup is nice enough, but I think I'll stick to the s9+ then which has a merely perfectly adequate headphone jack.

[D13H4RD]

5 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Oh yay! resonance chamber. Cause that replaces stereo sound imaging for sure.... Not. Ouch, that is disappointing.

 

The DAC setup is nice enough, but I think I'll stick to the s9+ then which has a merely perfectly adequate headphone jack.

Missed opportunity for a killer all rounder media experience. 

 

That resonance chamber is actually quite novel though. Although I have no idea whether it affects the battery capacity and if so, by how much. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

2 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Missed opportunity for a killer all rounder media experience. 

 

That resonance chamber is actually quite novel though. Although I have no idea whether it affects the battery capacity and if so, by how much. 

Definitely missed opportunity.

 

It is novel... for a smartphone... TV's have been using them for years, but I see scarily little actual comparison except claims against probably only down-firing standard phones.

[D13H4RD]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

It is novel... for a smartphone... TV's have been using them for years, but I see scarily little actual comparison except claims against probably only down-firing standard phones.

That's probably because there are now very few actual phones with dual front firing speakers. 

 

Except the Razer Phone and a few others plus Pixel 2.