Ampere computing will ship their 32 core 3.3Ghz ARM Server CPU this week

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Not really. 32 cores at 3.3GHz.

32 cores at that frequency just doesn’t impress me anymore. They could probably do better for server-grade hardware.

[mynameisjuan]

I am really interested in performance. I am still on edge about ARM VS X86 

[DrMacintosh]

Maybe Apple should get into the ARM server market? 

[mynameisjuan]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Maybe Apple should get into the ARM server market? 

Is there a single post where you have not mentioned Apple. That is one unhealthy relationship dude

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Is there a single post where you have not mentioned Apple. That is one unhealthy relationship dude

Apples makes some of the best ARM chips in the industry, it’s a logical connection to make in a thread like this. 

 

And yes yes there threads I have been in that aren’t about Apple. Visit my profile and even maybe give me a follow so you can see them all  

[mynameisjuan]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Apples makes some of the best ARM chips in the industry, it’s a logical connection to make in a thread like this. 

 

And yes yes there threads I have been in that aren’t about Apple. Visit my profile and even maybe give me a follow so you can see them all  

Yes they make ARM but just because its the best in a phone doesn't scale to servers. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

Yes they make ARM but just because its the best in a phone doesn't scale to servers. 

Of course not. But any company with as much capital as Apple could certainly get a foot in the market. 

[Drak3]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Yes they make ARM but just because its the best in a phone doesn't scale to servers. 

It's also not exactly easily to verify performance comparisons between Apple A series SoCs and literally any other ARM CPU/SoC. There's too many uncontrolled variables.

 

For all we know, the A12 could be slower than an SD810 and Android is just bloated as hell.

[mynameisjuan]

6 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

For all we know, the A12 could be slower than an SD810 and Android is just bloated as hell.

Well Huawei did show the potential of the chips and they kick ass fully unlocked and beat the A11 by a good amount in CPU and are around the same in gfx

[Drak3]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Well Huawei did show the potential of the chips and they kick ass fully unlocked and beat the A11 by a good amount in CPU and are around the same in gfx

Again, we don't have any comparisons where the only variable is the SoC, meaning numbers are basically speculation to hardware performance.

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Again, we don't have any comparisons where the only variable is the SoC, meaning numbers are basically speculation to hardware performance.

But its a fact...geekbench proved the ipad pro was faster than an i7 MacBook. Its all about the number

 

/s

[Drak3]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

But its a fact...geekbench proved the ipad pro was faster than an i7 MacBook. Its all about the number

Given how the MBP throttles, pretty sure Samsung's Note 8.0 is faster than an i7 MacBook Pro.

 

/s

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Given how the MBP throttles, pretty sure Samsung's Note 8.0 is faster than an i7 MacBook Pro.

 

/s

ooooooooooo

 

But I would like to see raw numbers, OS aside of ARM server vs say 845, A12 and 8700k. A dream that will never come true. 

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

ooooooooooo

 

But I would like to see raw numbers, OS aside of ARM server vs say 845, A12 and 8700k. A dream that will never come true. 

3245, 654, 7, Orange Monkey. Happy?

 

'Bout as valid as what Geekbench would give you.

[Granular]

Why the hell do they not mention anywhere, what the core architecture is? They only mention it's ARMv8 instruction set. Surely, they don't have their own unheard-of arch, so it's almost certainly one of ARM's designs.

Inb4 it's 32 Cortex A35s.

[Master Disaster]

7 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Renée James is a woman.

Oh shit, really. That's pretty unusual in the tech industry but actually good for her for reaching the very top.

[jagdtigger]

7 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

didn't they have server rack systems earlier on in history? o_o

Yes they did:

 

[Trixanity]

3 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Oh shit, really. That's pretty unusual in the tech industry but actually good for her for reaching the very top.

Thought it'd be funny to point it out. Almost went SJW-style on you like @valdyrgramr for the fun of it but opted not to. 

Don't sweat it but double 'e' names (or words) are usually the feminine variant as far as I know. Just like fiancée. Probably due to the French origin.

[Master Disaster]

34 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Thought it'd be funny to point it out. Almost went SJW-style on you like @valdyrgramr for the fun of it but opted not to. 

Don't sweat it but double 'e' names (or words) are usually the feminine variant as far as I know. Just like fiancée. Probably due to the French origin.

Hey I'll admit it, I made an assumption and I shouldn't have but thanks for pointing it out respectfully.

[Trixanity]

18 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I've got a meme for that.

[Linus_torvalds]

I do not think this to be better option then Ryzens

looking at this

AMD's High-Performance Desktop CPUs
	Cores/ Threads	Base/ Turbo	L3	DRAM 1DPC	PCIe	TDP	SRP	Retail Price
TR 2990WX	32/64	3.0/4.2	64 MB	4x2933	60	250 W	$1799	$1799
TR 2970WX	24/48	3.0/4.2					$1299	-
TR 2950X	16/32	3.5/4.4	32 MB			180 W	$899	$899
TR 1950X		3.4/4.0		4x2667			$799	$720
TR 2920X	12/24	3.5/4.3		4x2933			$649	-
TR 1920X		3.5/4.0		4x2667			$399	$449
TR 1900X	8/16	3.8/4.0	16 MB				$299	$308
Ryzen 7 2700X	8/16	3.7/4.3	16 MB	2x2933	16	105 W	$329	$319
Ryzen 7 1800X	8/16	3.6/4.0	16 MB	2x2667		95 W	?	$244

For 900$ you get 16 core 32 thread 3.5GHz to 4.4GHz chip. I do not think ARM can compete with x86 at all clock by clock. And difference between those chips at same price are 1.1 GHZ. Also as it's known hyperthreading gives 30% more performance. It can be told that 16 core chips has performance as if it had 21 cores. Those differences between frequency are enough to equal this 21 core with ARM 32 cores and then there is difference in the architecture. This is all theories and very bad examples but i do not think that 800$ is good price for that chip. I think if it was about 500$ would be better.

[Trixanity]

5 minutes ago, mate_mate91 said:

I do not think this to be better option then Ryzens

looking at this

AMD's High-Performance Desktop CPUs
	Cores/ Threads	Base/ Turbo	L3	DRAM 1DPC	PCIe	TDP	SRP	Retail Price
TR 2990WX	32/64	3.0/4.2	64 MB	4x2933	60	250 W	$1799	$1799
TR 2970WX	24/48	3.0/4.2					$1299	-
TR 2950X	16/32	3.5/4.4	32 MB			180 W	$899	$899
TR 1950X		3.4/4.0		4x2667			$799	$720
TR 2920X	12/24	3.5/4.3		4x2933			$649	-
TR 1920X		3.5/4.0		4x2667			$399	$449
TR 1900X	8/16	3.8/4.0	16 MB				$299	$308
Ryzen 7 2700X	8/16	3.7/4.3	16 MB	2x2933	16	105 W	$329	$319
Ryzen 7 1800X	8/16	3.6/4.0	16 MB	2x2667		95 W	?	$244

For 900$ you get 16 core 32 thread 3.5GHz to 4.4GHz chip. I do not think ARM can compete with x86 at all clock by clock. And difference between those chips at same price are 1.1 GHZ. Also as it's known hyperthreading gives 30% more performance. It can be told that 16 core chips has performance as if it had 21 cores. Those differences between frequency are enough to equal this 21 core with ARM 32 cores and then there is difference in the architecture. This is all theories and very bad examples but i do not think that 800$ is good price for that chip. I think if it was about 500$ would be better.

I doubt servers would use Threadripper. So you need to look at EPYC instead.

 

However I agree that EPYC is likely to be the better buy.

When Rome launches I think it's absolutely no contest at all.