Cant deside what to do keep my X58 setup or get new?

[Intelfreak]

Yeah i have gotten that sickness called upgrade.

 

Right now spec on my system is this:

Core i7 980X @ 4.42 GHz

Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler with 3 x noctua nf-f12 industrialppc-3000 pwm 120 MM fans.

ASUS P6X58D Premium second gen X58 motherboard (means it has USB 3.0 and sata 3 onboard) 

12 GB DDR3 memory Corsair 1600 MHz triple channel (6 x 2 GB)

Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD

CRUCIAL MX300 2 TB SSD

WD RED 4 TB HDD

WD AV-GP 2 TB HDD

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING

Thermaltake ToughPower 1500 Watt PSU

Antec Twelve Hundred with all stock fans replaced with Corsair ML120/ML140 PREMIUM/PRO fans and 3 x NZXT SENTRY 3 fan controllers mounted

Windows 10 PRO 64 bit

 

https://imgur.com/a/UB0q5gt#FSM6HK9

 

Some screenshot to give an idea of how my system performs right now.

 

Far Cry 5 at max setting in full HD and 1600P

 

Here is my thing then. I have been waiting for Nvidia 2000 series card and so far i am not that impressed by them. Seems RTX 2080 only is around 6 % faster than a stock GTX 1080 TI. Secondly RTX 2080 only has 8 GB vram all throw its faster ram but still only 8 GB. And it cost around the same as a GTX 1080 TI. I refuse to pay what a RTX 2080 TI cost. So i am going with the idea of getting me a second GTX 1080 TI for SLI. But here comes my old X58 as a problem. First of all I7 980X is not gear for GTX 1080 TI meaning it will be a bottleneck and motherboard only runs PCIe gen 2 and to make matter worse because i already have 2 PCI slots in use adding a second GTX 1080 TI will make the second card to only run X8 on PCIe gen 2. Not a good idea i think.

 

So i have only one thing to do and that is to upgrade and say goodbey to X58 (snif hulk) it has been a great run throw. So at first i where thinking on I9 9900K and a Z370 mobo but PCIe lanes aviable might be a problem for sli. AMD ryzen gen 2 seems alright but i want a CPU that also has strong cores and there intel has a upper hand in clock for clock also when it comes to threadripper (no bad words om AMD, there zen platform has really been great). So i am left with intel X299 platform. Why clock for clock or IPC is important for me is that besides video converting and things like that i also game on the same PC and games mostly benefits from cores with better IPC than more cores. Now i just cant deside shut i keep X58 a while longer and ad a second GTX 1080 TI any way but knowing that i will not be getting the optimal performance and wait to see Intels answer to AMD threadripper 2 cpu´s or maybe go for a I9 9900K its just the PCIe lanes might be a problem for SLI. The reason to get a 1080 TI now is because sooner or later 1080 TI will be sold out now and i would like to get a card that match my current card before its to late.

 

What would you guys do in my case?

 

Sorry the long thread. Im not so good at keeping it short.

[Jurrunio]

My suggestion will be waiting for 9900k and Z390 board, not buying any graphics card. SLI just isnt good value for what it costs and offers.

[Intelfreak]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

My suggestion will be waiting for 9900k and Z390 board, not buying any graphics card. SLI just isnt good value for what it costs and offers.

I have run SLI since 2009 and all the way to GTX 970. So i know what i am going in to with SLI. Its either a 2000 serie card or 1080 TI SLI. i cant keep high FPS at 4K with only one GTX 1080 TI. Some games really strangles is at 4k. Thats why i want a second card or something stronger, but 2000 series card just so far turned out to be a bit dissapointing with high prices, same or less vram at the same price and TDP are even higher than the same pascal driven model + raw performance seems not to live up to what i exspected al throw we have to see real reviews but the leaked bechmarks dosent impress me. That is not a good start i think.

 

I9 9900K is great if i just can be sure it has suficient pci lanes for sli.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Intelfreak said:

I have run SLI since 2009 and all the way to GTX 970. So i know what i am going in to with SLI. Its either a 2000 serie card or 1080 TI SLI. i cant keep high FPS at 4K with only one GTX 1080 TI. Some games really strangles is at 4k. Thats why i want a second card or something stronger, but 2000 series card just so far turned out to be a bit dissapointing with high prices, same or less vram at the same price and TDP are even higher than the same pascal driven model + raw performance seems not to live up to what i exspected al throw we have to see real reviews but the leaked bechmarks dosent impress me. That is not a good start i think.

 

I9 9900K is great if i just can be sure it has suficient pci lanes for sli.

just wait for benchmarks on the 2000 series, the ti might be a good amount faster, we don't know.

 

Lanes will be fine on z390. You have 8x per cpu plus the chipset lanes for the other devices. Sli will use nvlink.

[Intelfreak]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

just wait for benchmarks on the 2000 series, the ti might be a good amount faster, we don't know.

 

Lanes will be fine on z390. You have 8x per cpu plus the chipset lanes for the other devices. Sli will use nvlink.

I really hope Z390 will have sufficient lanes cause I9 9900K really seems like a great CPU for my needs.

 

Only 2000 series cards will use Nvlink. Pascal still uses the old SLI connection as far i know.

 

2080 Ti might be fast but also very exspensive and more exspensive than a 1080 TI cost specially if the 1080 TI is used. That is the problem. 2000 serie card prices are really bad. I am not gonna pay 999 or more for at single card that potentially only gives 20-25 % better performance over a GTX 1080 TI. Only time can tell that, GTX 2080 non ti is out cause the price, less vram that 1080 TI (and for 4K i do want as much vram as possible) and only seems to be a bit faster than a stock 1080 TI.

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I really hope Z390 will have sufficient lanes cause I9 9900K really seems like a great CPU for my needs.

Well it has the exact same amount as z370 and z270, and that amount is fine.

 

3 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

2080 Ti might be fast but also very exspensive and more exspensive than a 1080 TI cost specially if the 1080 TI is used. That is the problem. 2000 serie card prices are really bad. I am not gonna pay 999 or more for at single card that potentially only gives 20-25 % better performance over a GTX 1080 TI. Only time can tell that, GTX 2080 non ti is out cause the price, less vram that 1080 TI (and for 4K i do want as much vram as possible) and only seems to be a bit faster than a stock 1080 TI.

Just wait and see what the real prices are and what the performance really is.

[Intelfreak]

21 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Well it has the exact same amount as z370 and z270, and that amount is fine.

 

Just wait and see what the real prices are and what the performance really is.

You properly right. But.if review dosent come out soon, i will be getting a 1080 ti before they are sold out.

[Electronics Wizardy]

6 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

You properly right. But.if review dosent come out soon, i will be getting a 1080 ti before they are sold out.

The reviews should be out in about mid setember.

 

The 1080ti's should only get cheaper, the used cards should keep getting cheaper.

[bimmerman]

I'm in the same boat as you. I've got an X58 system, was waiting for and have been underwhelmed by the 20 series so far in existing game performance, and am appalled at the price for the GPUs. $800 for a card that is reportedly negligibly faster than a $600 1080ti? $1200 for a card that will be ~35% faster for 100% more money? Hell no.

 

Here's my suggestions, take them for what you will.

 

A) tinker a bit more with BCLK on your i7. You're getting ~10 cb points in single core lower than I am, at similar frequencies. I run 215x21.

B) if you go with a new mainstream Intel board and then run SLi, you're running 8x/8x of PCIe-3, which is the exact same bandwidth/performance as 16x/16x PCIe-2. Not a huge issue IMO.

C) try removing/moving/consolidating some of the expansion cards that you have installed into lower priority PCIe sockets, if SLI is really worth it to you.

D) Definitely consider Ryzen/TR, especially with 7nm chips coming out in ~7-8 months. You (and I) have waited this long! If you can't wait, the current AMD stuff is doing ~40 more cinebench points in single core than the X58 stuff. Unless you must run Ultra-all-the-things and 300fps-all-the-things, in which case....you can't do that now so why focus on it?

 

Personally, my plan is 7nm ThreadRipper next year, and hopefully AMD will show up with a competitive GPU sometime soon. Otherwise, 1080ti for me as well.

[Xplo1t]

My old x58 system just boomeranged back to me after a family member didn't want it anymore.   I gave it away 8 years ago I believe.  Surprised anyone would use one in this day and age.  Any of the newer chipsets will be a welcome upgrade with NVme, USB 3.1 and a ton of SATA connections.