Your CPU of Choice for Gaming/Streaming/Productivity

[Andrew Park]

Your CPU of Choice for Gaming/Streaming/Productivity

 

I would personally get Ryzen 7 2700x 

[samcool55]

2700x, more cores and more threads. In streaming and productivity workloads those extra cores will be properly used.

[GoldenLag]

a rule of thumb.

 

For Amd: productivity, streaming and other core heavy tasks.

For Intel: Gaming, certain productivity tasks, stability in certain VM software and other specific task that dont react well to Ryzen due to bad optimization or other reasons

[Andrew Park]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

a rule of thumb.

 

For Amd: productivity, streaming and other core heavy tasks.

For Intel: Gaming, certain productivity tasks, stability in certain VM software and other specific task that dont react well to Ryzen due to bad optimization or other reasons

True, but since I'm a designer and a gamer at the same time i need to use those extra cores and the 4Ghz clock speed for some additional gaming performance at the same time.

[Blissed]

why it the 7700k even an option

Best regards

[wojtepanik]

i am rocking i7 920, x58 FTW

[Jurrunio]

8700k, unless you do all these things at once.

[AlTech]

2700X is dank but I already have a 1700X .

[Andrew Park]

13 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

2700X is dank but I already have a 1700X .

I'm building a new pc soz XDDDD

[GoldenLag]

41 minutes ago, Blissed said:

why it the 7700k even an option

Best regards

because last gen i guess. 4 core is out-dated this gen and is considered entry level. which it really should have been many years ago..........

[Pyramiden]

3 hours ago, wojtepanik said:

i am rocking i7 920, x58 FTW

Aww yess... Bloomfield/Lynfield present! My X3470 is still going strong 

On topic:
Personally I would pick the Intel, if money is not in the equation. If things are  well optimized then the Ryzen will be like 5% better. In all other situations that Intel is simply going to be faster since it is about 25% faster if you use a program that utilizes less than 12 logical cores.

However, you can't go wrong with either of them. Throw dice, pick a colour you like...

[Princess Luna]

I currently am rocking the locked i7 8700 as the way I see it offers more value than the unlocked variant.

[BarackOBatman]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I currently am rocking the locked i7 8700 as the way I see it offers more value than the unlocked variant.

you mean value for the money*

 

Technically the 8700k has a higher value.

 

Right?

[Razor Blade]

I currently have a R7 1700X for all but the streaming part. I picked 2700X because it is a bit better had it existed back when I built my system that would be my choice.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, BarackOBatman said:

Value for the money*

Technically the 8700k has a higher value.

Right?

Nah... value and cost are different things hehe, though yes "value for money" as the expression goes.

 

The i7 8700 can sustain 4.4ghz while using a cheap aftermarket cooler and a b360 board, it's good enough and money savings are real to the point it's the same cost effective as Ryzen.

 

And then you have the best of both worlds: i7 7700K stock single thread performance and Ryzen 7 1700X stock multi-threading performance... so yeah productivity? nah stay Intel just don't pay the premium pointless tag for overclocking any more.

[BarackOBatman]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Nah... value and cost are different things hehe, though yes "value for money" as the expression goes.

 

The i7 8700 can sustain 4.4ghz while using a cheap aftermarket cooler and a b360 board, it's good enough and money savings are real to the point it's the same cost effective as Ryzen.

 

And then you have the best of both worlds: i7 7700K stock single thread performance and Ryzen 7 1700X stock multi-threading performance... so yeah productivity? nah stay Intel just don't pay the premium pointless tag for overclocking any more.

I do not disagree and i see where you're coming from. One could argue that Value and Cost go hand in hand though.

 

By definition, to value something is: 

  verb

  estimate the monetary worth of (something).

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=VALUE&oq=VALUE&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l5.615j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[defozzyone]

Hey, just signed up to the form and not sure how to navigate it completely yet so i hope i'm not asking my question in the wrong place. 

 

I'm building my first gaming P.C and i'm not sure what processor to go with, I do know that i want it to be an Intel but I don't know should it be i5 or i7

 

Please help i'm getting overwhelmed.

[BarackOBatman]

12 minutes ago, defozzyone said:

Hey, just signed up to the form and not sure how to navigate it completely yet so i hope i'm not asking my question in the wrong place. 

 

I'm building my first gaming P.C and i'm not sure what processor to go with, I do know that i want it to be an Intel but I don't know should it be i5 or i7

 

Please help i'm getting overwhelmed.

Welcome to the forum!

 

Not trying to further overwhelm you, but this question could probably go in  "New Builds and Planning" on the forum.

 

To answer your question. It depends... 

 

Which games, what frame rates to target, are there any other things you want to use your pc for? (example: video rendering, CAD, or Streaming to twitch)

 

But for a run of the mill entry-mid level gaming only PC, I'd recommend an Intel 8th gen i3 or i5 (or 7th gen and earlier i5.) Since you know for sure you want intel, i wont recommend anything from AMD.

 

Be sure you get a compatible motherboard!

 

[defozzyone]

9 minutes ago, BarackOBatman said:

Welcome to the forum!

 

Not trying to further overwhelm you, but this question could probably go in  "New Builds and Planning" on the forum.

 

To answer your question. It depends... 

 

Which games, what frame rates to target, are there any other things you want to use your pc for? (example: video rendering, CAD, or Streaming to twitch)

 

But for a run of the mill entry-mid level gaming only PC, I'd recommend an Intel 8th gen i3 or i5 (or 7th gen and earlier i5.) Since you know for sure you want intel, i wont recommend anything from AMD.

 

Be sure you get a compatible motherboard!

 

Hey,

 

thanks for the speedy reply on this. I knew I'd post in the wrong place. I'll head over there and ask in the proper chat. Thanks so much for the help

 

 

[Andrew Park]

13 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Nah... value and cost are different things hehe, though yes "value for money" as the expression goes.

 

The i7 8700 can sustain 4.4ghz while using a cheap aftermarket cooler and a b360 board, it's good enough and money savings are real to the point it's the same cost effective as Ryzen.

 

And then you have the best of both worlds: i7 7700K stock single thread performance and Ryzen 7 1700X stock multi-threading performance... so yeah productivity? nah stay Intel just don't pay the premium pointless tag for overclocking any more.

 

13 hours ago, Pyramiden said:

Aww yess... Bloomfield/Lynfield present! My X3470 is still going strong 

On topic:
Personally I would pick the Intel, if money is not in the equation. If things are  well optimized then the Ryzen will be like 5% better. In all other situations that Intel is simply going to be faster since it is about 25% faster if you use a program that utilizes less than 12 logical cores.

However, you can't go wrong with either of them. Throw dice, pick a colour you like...

all right boys..this is not intel or ryzen fan wars alright? I love both companies and I know that Intel is more optimized  for gaming. but for me I prefer the 2700x because of the 2 extra cores. I wont be overclocking the cpu over it's usual limits which would be 4ghz in the r7 2700x. I'm enough with that. I don't want to risk anything else. Jesus..just don't argue about which is better or not. Both are great companies and I know that Intel give more performance but I do productivity at the same. I'd use the 2700x for my useage which is productivity/gaming/streaming. gaming will take up the 4 cores and other 4 cores will do the encoding when streaming at 6mbps with x.264 encoder on OBS for me so those extra cores are essential for me. Look at the question on the pol i posted. The question here is which one will you choose if you are going to do gaming/streaming/productivity. by means not the clock speed or the performance..it's most likely to be the cores. 8700k is really good and I'd get it but the extra 2 cores really kills it for me. It's your opinions here so I wont say any more but anyways just don't argue with the fan boy wars XDDDDD

[Pyramiden]

3 hours ago, Andrew Park said:

 

all right boys..this is not intel or ryzen fan wars alright? I love both companies and I know that Intel is more optimized  for gaming. but for me I prefer the 2700x because of the 2 extra cores. I wont be overclocking the cpu over it's usual limits which would be 4ghz in the r7 2700x. I'm enough with that. I don't want to risk anything else. Jesus..just don't argue about which is better or not. Both are great companies and I know that Intel give more performance but I do productivity at the same. I'd use the 2700x for my useage which is productivity/gaming/streaming. gaming will take up the 4 cores and other 4 cores will do the encoding when streaming at 6mbps with x.264 encoder on OBS for me so those extra cores are essential for me. Look at the question on the pol i posted. The question here is which one will you choose if you are going to do gaming/streaming/productivity. by means not the clock speed or the performance..it's most likely to be the cores. 8700k is really good and I'd get it but the extra 2 cores really kills it for me. It's your opinions here so I wont say any more but anyways just don't argue with the fan boy wars XDDDDD

You literally quote me writing: "However, you can't go wrong with either of them. Throw dice, pick a colour you like...", and the other users say the differences are minimal as well, so I really don't get why you call it a fan war, since it looks like a normal discussion, and not a fan war at all ;-)

Preferring Ryzen because you prefer the color red or  likewords that contain a "Y" would make perfect sense. However, picking Ryzen because it has more cores does not. Those extra cores will simply not make a difference in terms of performance, because the overall performance of the chip at full load is very similar.

People answered your question: "The question here is which one will you choose if you are going to do gaming/streaming/productivity." However it appears they did not give the answer you wanted to have. If I would have to guess I would say that you had already picked the Ryzen, and just wanted to justify your choice.

[Andrew Park]

1 hour ago, Pyramiden said:

You literally quote me writing: "However, you can't go wrong with either of them. Throw dice, pick a colour you like...", and the other users say the differences are minimal as well, so I really don't get why you call it a fan war, since it looks like a normal discussion, and not a fan war at all ;-)

Preferring Ryzen because you prefer the color red or  likewords that contain a "Y" would make perfect sense. However, picking Ryzen because it has more cores does not. Those extra cores will simply not make a difference in terms of performance, because the overall performance of the chip at full load is very similar.

People answered your question: "The question here is which one will you choose if you are going to do gaming/streaming/productivity." However it appears they did not give the answer you wanted to have. If I would have to guess I would say that you had already picked the Ryzen, and just wanted to justify your choice.

Lol thanks for sharing that. Yes I already chose ryzen but at the same time I want intel's gaming performance..I would like to get upto 5ghz on gaming rather than 4.3ghz max boost on the ryzen but with extra 2 cores. I have to choose which to use. I don't want to have two systems for streaming which is better if I'll be streaming though. But for productivity I want those extra cores of ryzen so it just gives me a conflict on which one so that's why I posted this pole to see what would people choose.

[Pyramiden]

11 minutes ago, Andrew Park said:

Lol thanks for sharing that. Yes I already chose ryzen but at the same time I want intel's gaming performance..I would like to get upto 5ghz on gaming rather than 4.3ghz max boost on the ryzen but with extra 2 cores. I have to choose which to use. I don't want to have two systems for streaming which is better if I'll be streaming though. But for productivity I want those extra cores of ryzen so it just gives me a conflict on which one so that's why I posted this pole to see what would people choose.

They will both perform fine for both gaming and streaming... You spend about €330 on a high-end CPU... Of course it will be sufficient...
Honestly, I think both of those CPU's are probably overkill for what you are going to use them for. You are not going to bottleneck on either playing any modern game on high settings. I even use that Xeon X3470 for gaming, which is 3.5x as slow as the Ryzen, and I run most games on high or ultra with plenty FPS. Unless you are going to edit 4K video or edit or render massive CAD files I doubt you will get close to the full potential of the processor.

[Andrew Park]

6 minutes ago, Pyramiden said:

They will both perform fine for both gaming and streaming... You spend about €330 on a high-end CPU... Of course it will be sufficient...
Honestly, I think both of those CPU's are probably overkill for what you are going to use them for. You are not going to bottleneck on either playing any modern game on high settings. I even use that Xeon X3470 for gaming, which is 3.5x as slow as the Ryzen, and I run most games on high or ultra with plenty FPS. Unless you are going to edit 4K video or edit or render massive CAD files I doubt you will get close to the full potential of the processor.

I wont be playing most games in high settings since I like being competitive which means that I will be using the settings that is good for spotting enemies. So I won't be really caring about graphics. I just need most of the games that I'll play will go over 144fps since I will be using a 144hz gaming monitor with the max fps set to 144fps for the games so that I wont have to use V sync but at the same time get the full potential of 144hz

[sample text]

2700x will be better at rendering and softwares which are coded for multi threading

i7 8700k will be "better" on more or less games and softwares which are designed for lower cores

idk if you will even notice a difference between 2700x and 8700k in gaming..maybe 5-6 fps difference on some games,but that's nothing.I never had Intel cpu and I'm using 2700x atm..it just does perfect job for me