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CUTTING OPEN A LASER KEYSWITCH! - Bloody Gaming LK Switch Showcase

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*Talks about response time*

*Doesn't actually test it*

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Thread posted 13 min. ago, YouTube notification from 14 min. ago... We're not special enough to get early releases here anymore! :(

 

But A4Tech.. Aren't those the same guys from that mouse that has built in macros that can be used to use hacks in games, undetected..? I didn't know they made their own keyswitches too.

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The response time claims are bs, this is not at all "stepping up to higher refresh rate" 

The sensors under each key still need to be polled in order to detect a keystroke, just like a physical switch.

There is literally no difference other than replacing the 1 and 0 from a physical switch with a 1 and 0 (not literally) from an optical sensor, if anything the optical sensor will have a longer latency to change output.

 

Now instead of a robust metal contact "wearing out" or "corroding" (lol, when has that ever happened to a cherry keyboard) you need to worry about a laser dying which has a limited lifespan of a few thousand or tens of thousands of hours.

 

Sure it may be able to do 100 million keystrokes, if those keystrokes are all done within a few years.

Over-complicated, reinventing the wheel. At least they're trying new things.

Pro tip: just because it has 'lasers' in it does not mean it is good.

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35 minutes ago, Enderman said:

The response time claims are bs, this is not at all "stepping up to higher refresh rate" 

The sensors under each key still need to be polled in order to detect a keystroke, just like a physical switch.

There is literally no difference other than replacing the 1 and 0 from a physical switch with a 1 and 0 (not literally) from an optical sensor, if anything the optical sensor will have a longer latency to change output.

 

Now instead of a robust metal contact "wearing out" or "corroding" (lol, when has that ever happened to a cherry keyboard) you need to worry about a laser dying which has a limited lifespan of a few thousand or tens of thousands of hours.

 

Sure it may be able to do 100 million keystrokes, if those keystrokes are all done within a few years.

Over-complicated, reinventing the wheel. At least they're trying new things.

Pro tip: just because it has 'lasers' in it does not mean it is good.

It is possible that a mechanical switch could have a longer delay than this "Laser" switch. The polling rate is defined by the manufacturer and the maximum rate that USB defines. Windows automatically defines low speed (USB 1.1) devices with a 125Hz (8 ms) polling window. It is possible, if Bloody is being legit, that a mech switch could take multiple polling windows while the Bloody switch could virtually make every single one.

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43 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

It is possible that a mechanical switch could have a longer delay than this "Laser" switch. The polling rate is defined by the manufacturer and the maximum rate that USB defines. Windows automatically defines low speed (USB 1.1) devices with a 125Hz (8 ms) polling window. It is possible, if Bloody is being legit, that a mech switch could take multiple polling windows while the Bloody switch could virtually make every single one.

Mechanical gaming keyboards typically have a 1000hz polling rate (1ms) over USB.

I'm talking about the polling rate of the keyboard controller, which is what detects a keypress by analyzing whether each individual switch is open or closed.

Usually keyboard controllers run at several khz or mhz.

 

Yes it is possible that this "laser" keyboard has a faster controller but that would only make a difference of a few microseconds, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's using a "laser" switch. It still needs to check each individual sensor for a high or low signal.

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1 hour ago, Enderman said:

Mechanical gaming keyboards typically have a 1000hz polling rate (1ms) over USB.

I'm talking about the polling rate of the keyboard controller, which is what detects a keypress by analyzing whether each individual switch is open or closed.

Usually keyboard controllers run at several khz or mhz.

 

Yes it is possible that this "laser" keyboard has a faster controller but that would only make a difference of a few microseconds, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it's using a "laser" switch. It still needs to check each individual sensor for a high or low signal.

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Am I the only one excited about the NumPad on the left side? I hate the numpad for gaming but need it for music production and also prefer it generally when entering numbers in documents/forms/etc.

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17 hours ago, chckovsky said:

Am I the only one excited about the NumPad on the left side? I hate the numpad for gaming but need it for music production and also prefer it generally when entering numbers in documents/forms/etc.

i think you can buy seperate numpads.. 

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16 hours ago, BachChain said:

No MX Brown equivalent?

that's what i was surprised by too. i love mx brown's. 

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4 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i think you can buy seperate numpads.. 

Yeah, but that means either twice the cables or a shitty wireless one that feels like death to type on. at least form what's available in my country.

 

There's basically only two options that I like: A TKL gaming keyboard + a Ducky mechanical Numpad, or the Asus Claymore. I whish there were more options, as both are expensive AF.

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3 minutes ago, chckovsky said:

Yeah, but that means either twice the cables or a shitty wireless one that feels like death to type on.

oh okay, i get it. the numpad on my keyboard doesn't bother me but i don't play competitive games or something either so.. i guess if you need the space on the right side it could be handy, 

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