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Well i cant replace my CPU by HP Is "Impossible" Why?!? but cant replace my GPU Also By HP I Can't replace thats fuzed in the Motherboard Really Thats not a Good Answer i want to have new ram and hard drive and CPU But that's impossible But Nvidia is Ruining My experiencing to Get a GTX 1080 Chip Nope Thay dont Make it For Laptops Really Yes thay do So I Cant do nothing about it

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Actually, they do make the 1080 for laptops.

 

The 1080M.

 

Good luck soldering it on with a $10k USD solder ball machine :P

 

Also you could replace all of that. With the 10k solder machine

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???? Did you think laptops used desktop components? Even when they use the same type of chip the laptop versions are tweaked to account for thermals and power limitations, in other words it is not possible to give you a new chip that doesn't exist also it wouldn't be compatible anyway, the pin layout is different.

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38 minutes ago, Expert Wha said:

Well i cant replace my CPU by HP Is "Impossible" Why?!? but cant replace my GPU Also By HP I Can't replace thats fuzed in the Motherboard Really Thats not a Good Answer i want to have new ram and hard drive and CPU But that's impossible But Nvidia is Ruining My experiencing to Get a GTX 1080 Chip Nope Thay dont Make it For Laptops Really Yes thay do So I Cant do nothing about it

Here's what you do:

 

http://www.theportablepc.com/

 

Best of both worlds :)

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36 minutes ago, Expert Wha said:

Well i cant replace my CPU by HP Is "Impossible" Why?!? but cant replace my GPU Also By HP I Can't replace thats fuzed in the Motherboard Really Thats not a Good Answer i want to have new ram and hard drive and CPU But that's impossible But Nvidia is Ruining My experiencing to Get a GTX 1080 Chip Nope Thay dont Make it For Laptops Really Yes thay do So I Cant do nothing about it

There's a significant difference in power consumption between different video cards for laptops... for example gtx 1050 / 1050 ti mobile may use up to 40w , gtx 1060 may use up to 70-80w , gtx 1070 could be 120w, gtx 1080 could be 200-250w ... i don't know, pulled the numbers out of my ass.

The basic idea is that each video card uses a different amount of power and in order to save space in the laptop (which can be used for more battery for example) often they design the power delivery circuit (the vrm for the video card) to handle just a bit more than what the video card installed could handle... also they make the heatsink with just enough heatpipes and fan with just the right fan rotation speed curves to keep the specific video card cooled.

If you desolder the video chip and replace it with a better one, the power circuit won't be able to keep it fed with energy. Also, the "bios" of the video card would have to be rewritten and some video card chips expect certain configurations (for example gtx 1060 3 gb uses 192 bit bus (so 6 memory chips) while gtx 1050 uses 128 bit (so 4 memory chips) and gtx 1070/ gtx 1080 has 256 bit bus, so it needs 8 chips to work.

 

The processor uses less power than video cards, and most processors which can be installed in a laptop are within a narrow range of power, for example let's say 10w .. 35w, so it's much easier to simply design everything for 35-40w and that gives use option to replace cpu. everything else is also standardized when it comes to cpus (they all use so-dimm ddr4 and all that, one or two memory channels etc)

 

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First to address the CPU. All modern laptop CPU SKUs are soldered to the mainboard. That's just standard from AMD and Intel, in an effort to reduce Z-height.

 

As for GPU... it's not that simple. Making an upgradable GPU would require much more space in order to make it upgradable as well as accomodate cooling and whatnot. PCIe express would be way too big to be used. Nvidia had the whatever MXM thing but replacement GPUs for that cost a fortune, plus you would need a card of a similar TDP or you'll run into huge thermal issues.

 

Laptops aren't like desktops and there's a reason for that.

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58 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

First to address the CPU. All modern laptop CPU SKUs are soldered to the mainboard. That's just standard from AMD and Intel, in an effort to reduce Z-height.

 

As for GPU... it's not that simple. Making an upgradable GPU would require much more space in order to make it upgradable as well as accomodate cooling and whatnot. PCIe express would be way too big to be used. Nvidia had the whatever MXM thing but replacement GPUs for that cost a fortune, plus you would need a card of a similar TDP or you'll run into huge thermal issues.

 

Laptops aren't like desktops and there's a reason for that.

 

 

Not really my CPU Socket unscrews so i can get it out 

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sell the laptop and build a desktop rig, you already have the CPU and graphics card lol

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7 hours ago, aezakmi said:

sell the laptop and build a desktop rig, you already have the CPU and graphics card lol

Not on 2k

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10 hours ago, Expert Wha said:

 

 

Not really my CPU Socket unscrews so i can get it out 

How old is your laptop?

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23 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

I love how everyone is giving these reasonable explanations for why a modern laptop isn't upgradable, and then you come out with:

Go troll elsewhere. 

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1 hour ago, Expert Wha said:

 

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lol no wonder. Mobile CPUs nowadays are soldered but they weren't then.

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18 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

lol no wonder. Mobile CPUs nowadays are soldered but they weren't then.

No i can get it out by un screwing the CPU Socket

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4 minutes ago, Expert Wha said:

No i can get it out by un screwing the CPU Socket

I'm just curious where you got the idea that you could potentially upgrade this laptop to something that's usable today.  It's not going to be compatible with anything you want to put inside it.  In other words, you cant* put an i7 or gtx 1080 in there.  Even if a modern cpu physically fits in the socket, it wont turn on.

Sometimes I get builder's itch

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16 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

I'm just curious where you got the idea that you could potentially upgrade this laptop to something that's usable today.  It's not going to be compatible with anything you want to put inside it.  In other words, you cant* put an i7 or gtx 1080 in there.  Even if a modern cpu physically fits in the socket, it wont turn on.

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5 minutes ago, Expert Wha said:

Yes it Will i want a AMD A9-7890 

You need to learn the fundamentals first bro. 

You can't throw any cpu in just any socket.  There's rules to this stuff.  Look up guides or ask a friend to help you.

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1 hour ago, Expert Wha said:

No i can get it out by un screwing the CPU Socket

Wait, so the CPU is still soldered to the socket but you can pull out the socket?

1 hour ago, Expert Wha said:

Yes it Will i want a AMD A9-7890 

You can't just replace it with anything... the socket and chipset is completely different.

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33 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Wait, so the CPU is still soldered to the socket but you can pull out the socket?

You can't just replace it with anything... the socket and chipset is completely different.

no IT's not Solderd to the socket It has a CPU Holder on top of it

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1 hour ago, Expert Wha said:

no IT's not Solderd to the socket It has a CPU Holder on top of it

.... you seriously have no idea how cpu's work do you...

 

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This thread should be in off topic for laughing purposes :3

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he is talking about these sort of laptops http://mylaptop101.blogspot.com/2012/09/step-by-step-procedure-in-replacing.html

I suggest you look up your exact laptop model and get the best possible that is compatible with off ebay if you really want to upgrade it to something slightly better. But if you want something that will make you notice a difference then just buy a new computer. Either laptop or PC. 

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12 hours ago, Expert Wha said:

no IT's not Solderd to the socket It has a CPU Holder on top of it

Do you mean to say the cpu is in a socket but is screwed into the socket?

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