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[8tg]

Internet on the 21 year old S30 acquired

new problems, I can visit some sites but anything with time verification doesn’t work, the bios time is wrong and the bios is in Japanese and finding the date/time settings is gonna be a pain, but I guess google translate can fix that for me

 

other new problem, no Firefox 52 ESR because this 600mhz Pentium 3 doesn’t have SSE2, I have to use internet explorer, Netscape or k-meleon.

third new problem, I’m struggling to find programs that can play mp4 video on here, everything requires sse2 or just doesn’t want to play nice otherwise

so I’m just gonna convert everything to WMV I guess

this is a weird little niche era for XP I’m just not used to, right after this were the Pentium 4 mobile and then the Pentium M, 2 gigabytes of ram, more than 4MB of video memory being normal, etc 

but this is right before all of that, this shipped with the earliest consumer release of windows xp, and hardware was still moving fast 

so it all works sort of how I expect it to? but also just differently enough that some stuff throws me off like, “oh that’s right, this can’t play a lot of games because it has 4MB of video memory instead of 64mb shared in igpu”

[SimplyChunk]

47 minutes ago, 8tg said:

Internet on the 21 year old S30 acquired

 

new problems, I can visit some sites but anything with time verification doesn’t work, the bios time is wrong and the bios is in Japanese and finding the date/time settings is gonna be a pain, but I guess google translate can fix that for me

 

other new problem, no Firefox 52 ESR because this 600mhz Pentium 3 doesn’t have SSE2, I have to use internet explorer, Netscape or k-meleon.

third new problem, I’m struggling to find programs that can play mp4 video on here, everything requires sse2 or just doesn’t want to play nice otherwise

so I’m just gonna convert everything to WMV I guess

this is a weird little niche era for XP I’m just not used to, right after this were the Pentium 4 mobile and then the Pentium M, 2 gigabytes of ram, more than 4MB of video memory being normal, etc 

but this is right before all of that, this shipped with the earliest consumer release of windows xp, and hardware was still moving fast 

so it all works sort of how I expect it to? but also just differently enough that some stuff throws me off like, “oh that’s right, this can’t play a lot of games because it has 4MB of video memory instead of 64mb shared in igpu”

Here's an MP4 plugin for Winamp 2.1 if that helps

 

https://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Plugins/MP-Input-Plugin-for-Winamp.shtml

 

 

[Kilrah]

1 hour ago, 8tg said:

new problems, I can visit some sites but anything with time verification doesn’t work, the bios time is wrong and the bios is in Japanese and finding the date/time settings is gonna be a pain, but I guess google translate can fix that for me

Setting the time in Windows will set the BIOS time, no need to actually go in the BIOS

[Bitter]

2 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Setting the time in Windows will set the BIOS time, no need to actually go in the BIOS

Not sure it works that way on older hardware, but windows time servers should work for XP still I think or you can manually set the system time. The Google Translate app does work pretty good for reading and translating text live though, I've used it a bunch of times.

[da na]

2 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Not sure it works that way on older hardware, but windows time servers should work for XP still I think or you can manually set the system time. The Google Translate app does work pretty good for reading and translating text live though, I've used it a bunch of times.

Just tried, still works

[Bitter]

I see me, trippy! I bet the non MS time server still works too! https://www.nist.gov/pml/time-and-frequency-division/time-distribution/internet-time-service-its

[Kilrah]

2 card slots!

 

[da na]

1 minute ago, Kilrah said:

2 card slots!

 

 

Ahh the nice iPaq!

I bought one a few months ago, IDK if I posted it here, but it wasn't the model the seller described - only 1 SD slot isntead of a CF and SD. (And the backup battery was dead, and the main battery... and the screen wasn't in good condition...)

Do both take SDIO? 

[da na]

Bought an Athlon XP 2600. Replacing a dead 3200+ AFAIK but those are way too expensive.

Thought the board was dead since it wouldn't post with the CPU (thought I botched the cap replacement) but I bought a new old stock tested board and it also didn't work with that CPU. Both boards did the same thing with the CPU in that they did with it removed, spun the fan once and then nothing else when the PSU was turned on. Hope this works.

 

It'll go in a case (probably) along with my NOS Radeon 9200 AGP and a Sound Blaster. I have yet to put the discs in the drive, want to keep it a surprise until the card is up and running but there are demos apparently - I can't find any other 9200 demos online, just 9700/9800 demos so if they're different I'll image the discs. 

I'd love to have a Radeon 9700 so I could run the Animusic demo on original hardware...

Also, I may stick my PhysX card in that system if I get it working. Total overkill but why not. 

[Kilrah]

16 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Ahh the nice iPaq!

I bought one a few months ago, IDK if I posted it here, but it wasn't the model the seller described - only 1 SD slot isntead of a CF and SD. (And the backup battery was dead, and the main battery... and the screen wasn't in good condition...)

Do both take SDIO? 

Don't have anything SDIO, but doesn't seem to be intended for it since the slots are on the side so anything sticking out would be awkward. And the bottom slot is miniSD, doubt there's anything SDIO in that form factor...

 

It's really in good shape cosmetically, the E key unfortunately seems to be dead though, the battery was dead but agreed to come back to life. It's one of those extended ones so it's chonky...

 

[da na]

Just now, Kilrah said:

Don't have anything SDIO, but doesn't seem to be intended for it since the slots are on the side so anything sticking out would be awkward. And the bottom slot is miniSD, doubt there's anything SDIO in that form factor...

 

It's really in good shape cosmetically, the E key unfortunately seems to be dead though, the battery was dead but agreed to come back to life. It's one of those extended ones so it's chonky...

 

Ah integrated camera. Probably no SDIO then. 

[Kilrah]

Interestingly there's absolutely nothing in the stock ROM regarding the camera, guess the software for it was on the CD and you had to install it separately. Will see if I can reuse some of the apps that came with my rx3715...

[Fnige]

6 hours ago, Kilrah said:

2 card slots!

 

[da na]

Upgraded my XP system to a real Sound Blaster today. One of the two low profile Creative Sound Blasters ever AFAIK. This is the Audigy SE SB0570.

It sounds much better than other Sound Blasters I own for MIDI, and even just for MP3s I notice a massive difference. Much cleaner sound. Low noise floor. On the onboard sound, you could just plug headphones in with nothing playing and the interference would sound like a group of 20 hamsters fighting a few feet away, it was quite bothersome. 

This card actually sounds better than my Sound Blaster 32 and Live! for midi, the Live! doesn't have onboard MIDI hardware so just uses the SW synth (and it doesn't sound great). And of course the 32 being a slightly older card it doesn't have as many voices/instruments.

Sounds almost as good for MIDI as my Sound Blaster Z in fact. Quite impressed with this card. Only complaint is it uses that stupid proprietary header, and it doesn't want to drive my PC's internal speaker (it's quite good sounding and rather loud, not a piezo but a full paper cone. It faces the outside but has open case room to echo and sounds pretty nice)

[8tg]

posting this from the thinkpad s30

in a survival situation, one could use this for daily internet browsing

[8tg]

[da na]

15 minutes ago, 8tg said:

posting this from the thinkpad s30

in a survival situation, one could use this for daily internet browsing

I use my XP system for internet browsing and YouTube pretty frequently... slightly beefier than the thinkpad though, P4 HT

[SimplyChunk]

8 minutes ago, 8tg said:

Are the new Thinkpads any good @8tg ?  My Step Dad needs a new laptop (he gave up on the Surface idea) and a referbished X250 has come up for £350.

 

His prerequisit is no bigger than 13" screen and my advice was he needs 8GB of RAM (cause he'll be using autocad)  

[8tg]

8 minutes ago, SimplyChunk said:

Are the new Thinkpads any good @8tg ?  My Step Dad needs a new laptop (he gave up on the Surface idea) and a referbished X250 has come up for £350.

 

His prerequisit is no bigger than 13" screen and my advice was he needs 8GB of RAM (cause he'll be using autocad)  

Absolutely, a lot of people seem to dislike so called newpads due to a lot of design changes that aren’t reminiscent of the old thinkpads design, but they’re still super solid business machines.

I daily use an X1 nano, about as newpad as it gets in the 13” form factor, and it’s an absolutely fantastic machine.

Here it is alongside the S30

The x250 is solid, multiple drive capability with 2.5” and an m.2 sata slot, up to 16gb of ram without having to do bios mods (you can put 32gb in an X220), the 768p screen is kinda meh so definitely aim for a 1080p one.

 

Though if he wants an actual workstation, toss out that 13” requirement and get a P50/51.

Mobile Xeon quadcores, maxwell nvidia quadro’s, 64gb of ecc ram, etc

[SimplyChunk]

3 hours ago, 8tg said:

Absolutely, a lot of people seem to dislike so called newpads due to a lot of design changes that aren’t reminiscent of the old thinkpads design, but they’re still super solid business machines.

I daily use an X1 nano, about as newpad as it gets in the 13” form factor, and it’s an absolutely fantastic machine.

Here it is alongside the S30

-snip

The x250 is solid, multiple drive capability with 2.5” and an m.2 sata slot, up to 16gb of ram without having to do bios mods (you can put 32gb in an X220), the 768p screen is kinda meh so definitely aim for a 1080p one.

 

Though if he wants an actual workstation, toss out that 13” requirement and get a P50/51.

Mobile Xeon quadcores, maxwell nvidia quadro’s, 64gb of ecc ram, etc

Thanks man.  I don't think he wants to ditch the 13" requirement.  The Autodesk is just hobby level.  He used to run one of the drawing rooms for the MOD over here and i think he just wants to play with some of his teams old designs.  I think the one that has come up is a FHD variant with a 5300U and 8GB of RAM so i think it'll suit him down to the ground.  Thank you

[da na]

May be the best place for this question.

installed my new athlon xp 2800 today. Board 1, did nothing. Tried board 2. Without even hitting power it started to boot, showed 00 post code, then started clicking near cpu area and then something went pop, sounded like the cpu itself but couldn’t see under the heatsink. Shut it off.

What happened? Everything was correctly plugged in. Are both boards really dead?

[Bitter]

F to pay respects.

[da na]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

F to pay respects.

What I feared... 

[luckybob77]

Show us the carnage at least.

[da na]

Free speakers I’ve collected over the past week, going to compare soon. I think the dells will be the best just on looks, weight, and they’re the only name brand here - from their appearance and color scheme they match the Pentium 4 era optiplexes, grey curved ones. The thin formerly white ones probably suck, they don’t even feel shielded, beige boxes may have a chance. There’s one that’s an orb, like the creative pebble speakers, but has a massive plate with the company logo right over the single driver so it probably sounds awful, just picked up since it looks kinda cool.