Plattsburgh, N.Y to take legislative against crypto mining.

[done12many2]

10 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Which is not what is happening in this scenario.....

 

At this point you are skewing this to make a point. 

 

He clearly said that he had to keep turning off the 2000w space heater, but didn't have to do so with the 800w computer. 

 

He was turning off the space heater because its 2000w produced enough BTUs to satisfy his desired temperature.  Because an 800w computer consumes much less energy than a 2000w electric heater (for obvious reasons I hope), the 800w computer has to run for a much longer time to produce the same amount of heat.  Roughly 2.5 hours for each 1 hour of the electric heater to reach the same temperature. 

 

The very simple fact is this. A computer pulling 800w from the wall will output the same amount of heat as an electric heater pulling 800w from the wall.  You can spin it however you want, but those facts won't change. 

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

The very simple fact is this. A comper pulling 800w from the wall will output the same amount of heat as an electric heater pulling 800w from the wall.  You can spin it however you want, but those facts won't change. 

Its a good thing I was never trying to say that, rather I was proving a point as you already pointed out

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

At this point you are skewing this to make a point.

 

[ARikozuM]

I love how we're attacking miners, but what about making solar and wind power more accessible? It took me 8 panels to produce enough electricity to support the four 24/7 servers (F@H, Steam VM, file servers, surveillance) without gouging my wallet every month. 

[leadeater]

18 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Which is not what is happening in this scenario.....

Well we're talking about, for example sake a heater that draws 100W of power and produces 100W heat versus a GPU that draws 100W of power and produces 99.99W of heat. There are zero fans on my GPUs and are water cooled, I also run my system near passive so I'd say about 3-5W of fans power.

 

So for an 800W system it'll be outputting about 795W of heat.

 

As for why I turn the heater down or off, that's because the room gets warm enough. 800W (795W) is enough to keep it at a constant warm temperature. Overall I'd say they use the same amount of power when you factor in the room getting cold, me turning the heater up to full for a while till I go "Damn it's hot" then turning it down or off.

[Arika]

Anyone want to start up a salt based crypto-currency with me? there is quite a lot in this thread from both sides that will give us a decent initial investment.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Fox said:

Anyone want to start up a salt based crypto-currency with me? there is quite a lot in this thread from both sides that will give us a decent initial investment.

Iodised or non-iodised salt? Or will it fork later so we can have both options?

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Iodised or non-iodised salt? Or will it fork later so we can have both options?

I only use chicken salt.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, leadeater said:

Iodised or non-iodised salt? Or will it fork later so we can have both options?

Call me when the iodine fork hits betadine. 

Spoiler

I'll see myself out. 

 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Fox said:

Anyone want to start up a salt based crypto-currency with me? there is quite a lot in this thread from both sides that will give us a decent initial investment.

 

I'm in as long as I get a pre-mine all to myself for a few days. 

[Arika]

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Iodised or non-iodised salt? Or will it fork later so we can have both options?

iodised of course. It is saltier after all

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Sierra Fox said:

iodised of course. It is saltier after all

Do we get saltcoins or weeptokens? ASIC or GPU? There are so many questions! My body isn't ready for this! 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Do we get saltcoins or weeptokens? ASIC or GPU? There are so many questions! My body isn't ready for this! 

 

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/salt/

 

Salt coin is out (already done) so... 

 

Whatever we call it, make it ASIC resistant and bring on the GPUs! 

[leadeater]

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Do we get saltcoins or weeptokens? ASIC or GPU? There are so many questions! My body isn't ready for this! 

MSG overload?

[Arika]

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Do we get saltcoins or weeptokens? ASIC or GPU? There are so many questions! My body isn't ready for this! 

 

Yes!

 

and this ladies and gentlemen is what we call a

 

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, Sierra Fox said:

Yes!

 

and this ladies and gentlemen is what we call a

 

Very well executed may I add 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, leadeater said:

MSG overload?

Monosodiu... WHat'd you call me!? You wanna go? I can do finstacuffs! 

 

[Tellos]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

I love how we're attacking miners, but what about making solar and wind power more accessible? It took me 8 panels to produce enough electricity to support the four 24/7 servers (F@H, Steam VM, file servers, surveillance) without gouging my wallet every month. 

Issue is sun and wind are not availible in abudance everywhere. Also many places because people dislike their veiws being blocked including super eco friendly libral east coast places they have prevented construction. reason. "even tohugh it is 50 miles off the coast I worry it'll mess up my veiw." bascially NIMBY not in my back yard! So yeah the pipe dream of a solar/wind on every hosue is not happening. Also the panels needed to directly convert to electricity are not the only solar others take solar heat and use it to boil water and use steam basciallyl iek nuke plants do. Trouble is takes ALOT of space. In the end yes we need more energy but we also need people to stop just sucking energy up endlessly. Or build nuke plants.

[Tech_Dreamer]

lmao 20%!! that's pretty shocking.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Tellos said:

Also the panels needed to directly convert to electricity are not the only solar others take solar heat and use it to boil water and use steam basciallyl iek nuke plants do

Solar hot water tubes are actually very efficient and much cheaper than PV panels. If a house uses a lot of hot water those would actually be a better spend than PV to heat the water with electricity. They are also far less sensitive to sun angel and don't reflect light back like PV panels do which is why a lot of people object to them being installed in the neighborhood.

 

 

[vorticalbox]

On 10/03/2018 at 12:19 AM, RadiatingLight said:

oof.

 

It's definitely not an illusion, and it's not a waste either -- they're securing the bitcoin network.

However, bitcoin is built in a way that will use tons of power. other coins, like NANO, have their entire network using only a few watts, and have instant/feeless transactions.

IMO 1st gen cryptos will get phased out slowly.

Chai from the creator of bit torrent Bram Cohen that uses proofs of time and storage. 

[leadeater]

4 minutes ago, vorticalbox said:

Chai from the creator of bit torrent Bram Cohen that uses proofs of time and storage. 

I've seen quite a few storage based coins come up recently, wonder if they will catch on/how quickly.

[mr moose]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Solar hot water tubes are actually very efficient and much cheaper than PV panels. If a house uses a lot of hot water those would actually be a better spend than PV to heat the water with electricity. They are also far less sensitive to sun angel and don't reflect light back like PV panels do which is why a lot of people object to them being installed in the neighborhood.

 

 

 

I am looking at this right now.  It cost my family $50 a month to heat water.

[leadeater]

5 minutes ago, mr moose said:

I am looking at this right now.  It cost my family $50 a month to heat water.

I assume it should actually be really good option in Aus, heat/sun prevalence and all. Whats the pricing like for you, something similar to the pic I posted is about $5.5k (inc install) here.

[mr moose]

25 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I assume it should actually be really good option in Aus, heat/sun prevalence and all. Whats the pricing like for you, something similar to the pic I posted is about $5.5k (inc install) here.

Not sure,  I can get a 315L Natural gas boost unit for $3990 so add a G for install and it probably works out about the same.  It'd take about 10 years to pay for itself.

[vorticalbox]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

I've seen quite a few storage based coins come up recently, wonder if they will catch on/how quickly.

they look like they will be the way to go, storage is far cheaper and far less power hungry that using work based proof.