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[Bitter]

2 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

I'm sure you can find bits of one at a pull a part.

Which button do I press for doubt? 98-02, a Mazda, and the dopey 626 at that. Nah, what's rusting is the frame part of the uni-body in the back where they all rust, same as the Protege's rust since the 626 was just an engorged Protege basically. There's not usually 20+ year old cars in junk yards around here, especially not something that wasn't a million a year seller like a Civic or Camry. In 1998 Mazda sold a total of 240,000 vehicles in the US, the 626 was a paltry fraction of that vs the likes of the Miata, the Ranger, the MX6, etc. It wasn't even Japan built, it rolled out of the same factory that the Mustang did. Car's a bastard but it's been pretty cheap and reliable. Got a good enough stereo in it and some good headlights, heat is hot and the AC is cold.

I suspect when car prices drop to regular levels there's probably going to be a rash of good used cars come on the market from everyone who was waiting to buy a new car. I'll find something. Possibly considering a plug in hybrid if the prices are OK.

[jagdtigger]

10 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

then buying any car being able to go above speed limits should be illegal?

Dont imagine things into my post....

[JoaoPRSousa]

13 hours ago, jagdtigger said:

The car does not, but buying a car specifically to be able to break rules on the other hand.....

 

2 hours ago, jagdtigger said:

Dont imagine things into my post....

 

Didn't know going above the speed limit wasn't breaking rules. Well then, I'm going to blast down the city at 200kph, bye now

[jagdtigger]

9 minutes ago, JoaoPRSousa said:

Didn't know going above the speed limit wasn't breaking rules.

Seems like reading comprehension is luxury nowadays.....

[JoaoPRSousa]

So is having a brain

[JoaoPRSousa]

9 minutes ago, willies leg said:

Nope.

A car can now compute and is greater than either your PC or your phone. Get with the program.

 

Ok, so Tesla's "computers" are using better hardware (let me just say that it is nonexistant, Tesla isn't pulling hardware better than what's available out of their asses) than what a high end PC would have? I will press X for doubt on that one, with pleasure, and multiple times.

 

Also I love how Tesla """""fans""""" just plain and simply deny logic. You sure need an auto driving car (but not a Tesla) because without them you won't go very far.

[iDeFecZx]

25 minutes ago, JoaoPRSousa said:

Tesla isn't pulling hardware better than what's available out of their asses

Course they are, its tesla. Musks a time traveller from the future obvs

[Guest willies leg]

45 minutes ago, JoaoPRSousa said:

 

Ok, so Tesla's "computers" are using better hardware (let me just say that it is nonexistant, Tesla isn't pulling hardware better than what's available out of their asses) than what a high end PC would have? I will press X for doubt on that one, with pleasure, and multiple times.

 

Also I love how Tesla """""fans""""" just plain and simply deny logic. You sure need an auto driving car (but not a Tesla) because without them you won't go very far.

 

Yes, why yes they are building and using better hardware.

https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-custom-ai-chips-hardware-3/

 

"Compared to the competition, in terms of sheer computing power, the comparable NVIDIA Xavier system runs at 21 TOPS, whereas the FSD Computer runs at 144 TOPS, 7X faster."

 

And they have a better back end.

https://towardsdatascience.com/tesla-ai-day-2021-review-part-3-project-dojo-teslas-new-supercomputer-715d102dbb29

 

So while Honda, Toyota, Ford and others build a car, yank out the gas engine and parts and shoehorn in an electric motor and battery, Tesla is changing the world with their innovation. openness, and environmental responsibility.

 

[JoaoPRSousa]

40 minutes ago, willies leg said:

Yes, why yes they are building and using better hardware.

https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-custom-ai-chips-hardware-3/

 

"Compared to the competition, in terms of sheer computing power, the comparable NVIDIA Xavier system runs at 21 TOPS, whereas the FSD Computer runs at 144 TOPS, 7X faster."

 

And they have a better back end.

https://towardsdatascience.com/tesla-ai-day-2021-review-part-3-project-dojo-teslas-new-supercomputer-715d102dbb29

 

So while Honda, Toyota, Ford and others build a car, yank out the gas engine and parts and shoehorn in an electric motor and battery, Tesla is changing the world with their innovation. openness, and environmental responsibility.

 

I'll wait patiently sitting in a comfortable chair for that to be released and actually hold true to what is being said and announced. Not usually the case with Tesla.

 

Innovation, pfft.

Openness to take your money and make false promises. And also open to racial discrimination. Innovation that excites.

https://www.protocol.com/workplace/tesla-fremont-racism-discrimination
Environmental responsibility, yeah, right.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/elon-musk-confesses-to-lithium-coup-in-bolivia-20200725-0010.html

https://catapa.be/en/lithium-exploitation-is-drying-out-the-worlds-driest-desert/

[AlwaysFSX]

11 hours ago, Bitter said:

Which button do I press for doubt? 98-02, a Mazda, and the dopey 626 at that. Nah, what's rusting is the frame part of the uni-body in the back where they all rust, same as the Protege's rust since the 626 was just an engorged Protege basically. There's not usually 20+ year old cars in junk yards around here, especially not something that wasn't a million a year seller like a Civic or Camry. In 1998 Mazda sold a total of 240,000 vehicles in the US, the 626 was a paltry fraction of that vs the likes of the Miata, the Ranger, the MX6, etc. It wasn't even Japan built, it rolled out of the same factory that the Mustang did. Car's a bastard but it's been pretty cheap and reliable. Got a good enough stereo in it and some good headlights, heat is hot and the AC is cold.

I suspect when car prices drop to regular levels there's probably going to be a rash of good used cars come on the market from everyone who was waiting to buy a new car. I'll find something. Possibly considering a plug in hybrid if the prices are OK.

Look I never said you're finding a whole body. Just bits of them. I imagine your welding skills are good enough to piece a Frankenstein vehicle together.

 

Never put much thought towards used hybrids, I have no idea how their batteries hold up over time.

1 hour ago, willies leg said:

and environmental responsibility.

Hey have Tesla managed to figure out how to make materials for batteries without destroying the environment from their sources yet? Haven't heard anything on that so far.

[AlwaysFSX]

23 minutes ago, PandaCopyRight said:

it will NEVER be able to do what a pc does for the reason that it never was meant to.

I dunno about you but I can't wait to mine bitcoin while driving and reduce my range to 5 miles total.

[PandaCopyRight]

8 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

I dunno about you but I can't wait to mine bitcoin while driving and reduce my range to 5 miles total.

Only 5 miles, that's a steal 

[Radium_Angel]

So over the xmas break, I bought a neighbor's car for 200$ (2005 suzuki reno)

She's a smoker (ugh)

Anyone have any *firsthand* experience removing the smell? I'm considering an ozone generator but I'd like to work with something less dangerous...

[Guest willies leg]

31 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Look I never said you're finding a whole body. Just bits of them. I imagine your welding skills are good enough to piece a Frankenstein vehicle together.

 

Never put much thought towards used hybrids, I have no idea how their batteries hold up over time.

Hey have Tesla managed to figure out how to make materials for batteries without destroying the environment from their sources yet? Haven't heard anything on that so far.

 

Yes, why yes they have.

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf

 

[iDeFecZx]

17 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

So over the xmas break, I bought a neighbor's car for 200$ (2005 suzuki reno)

She's a smoker (ugh)

Anyone have any *firsthand* experience removing the smell? I'm considering an ozone generator but I'd like to work with something less dangerous...

Strip all the interior and go full racecar

[AlwaysFSX]

6 minutes ago, willies leg said:

 

Yes, why yes they have.

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf

 

When you actually look past the Tesla fluff, no, they haven't, lol. I'd be interested to see what materials engineers from Tesla are actually doing to use different battery materials for sustainability.

[PandaCopyRight]

5 minutes ago, willies leg said:

 

Yes, why yes they have.

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf

 

ahh yes .. lets make the numbers wrong by saying *lifetime environmental change* and not include the resource gathering and manufacturing of the batteries and will just list the manufacturers that tesla gets the batteries from .... all i can say is that it looks like teslas marketing fluff is working on some 

[Guest willies leg]

2 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

When you actually look past the Tesla fluff, no, they haven't, lol. I'd be interested to see what materials engineers from Tesla are actually doing to use different battery materials for sustainability.

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exclusive/exclusive-teslas-secret-batteries-aim-to-rework-the-math-for-electric-cars-and-the-grid-idUSKBN22Q1WC

 

They're world leaders, again.

[techswede]

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Fanboying is looked down upon.

Car guys respect other car guys. If you are into Americana,Japanese cars or european cars or anything in between you are welcome

And respect other peoples opinion. I do not like the 2JZ. You might. And there is nothing wrong with that

Blatantly bashing any cars from a certain market. Be it american cars,Japanese cars or european cars. without basis is dumb. And should not be done in this thread.
This is mostly because it's tiresome to read through and can start an argument. Debate is fine. Arguments are just a waste of time.

 

Now what was that about reading comprehension 

[Bitter]

Alternator pivot bolt needed torch to free it and then all 300 beans of my DeWalt Atomic mid torque.

[Bitter]

25 minutes ago, iDeFecZx said:

Except electric isnt clean either? You still have to produce it in significant quantities one way or another and EVs still arent a feasible option for a significant amount of people in the world

Centrally generated power is easier to regulate and 'cleanify' than individual burners. It easier to swap the coal plant to natural gas to wind/solar than it is to swap 1000's of cars from gas to electric or to hybrid or to whatever. You can pick where you want to put the coal or natural gas emissions,your car just farts everything everywhere it goes. It's not perfect but it's incrementally better and it's better than doing nothing.

[Radium_Angel]

19 minutes ago, PandaCopyRight said:

BMW i3, although not the best example cause of the ways BMW operates ... the car itself is supposedly a really nice one

I took one for a test drive...it's really weird.

That automatic braking threw me off. That and the price of tires.

Those two things aside, I'd love to have one, but it;s a BMW, repair costs will be stratospheric.

[PandaCopyRight]

5 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I took one for a test drive...it's really weird.

That automatic braking threw me off. That and the price of tires.

Those two things aside, I'd love to have one, but it;s a BMW, repair costs will be stratospheric.

Yeah the regenerative braking (i think thats what you are referring to) will throw most people off ... and the tires are just a stupid custom size that originally was made by 1 specific brand that BMW had a deal with

but yeah, its a BMW something will decide to go wrong and then the BMW will be expensive 

[Radium_Angel]

1 minute ago, PandaCopyRight said:

Yeah the regenerative braking (i think thats what you are referring to) will throw most people off ... and the tires are just a stupid custom size that originally was made by 1 specific brand that BMW had a deal with

but yeah, its a BMW something will decide to go wrong and then the BMW will be expensive 

The regen braking, yes correct term, my Honda CR-Z uses it but not nearly to the abrupt/aggressive limit that BMW does.

It's a shame (IMO) the EVs I;ve run across are so...un car-like. CAddy made an ill-fated one that drove and acted like a normal car, everything else I;ve encountered seems to be going out of its way to scream "look at me! I'm different!"

 

Again, IMO, you need to ease people, especially gear heads, into EVs, jarring shifts like the I3 is not the way to win friends.

 

[PandaCopyRight]

5 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

The regen braking, yes correct term, my Honda CR-Z uses it but not nearly to the abrupt/aggressive limit that BMW does.

It's a shame (IMO) the EVs I;ve run across are so...un car-like. CAddy made an ill-fated one that drove and acted like a normal car, everything else I;ve encountered seems to be going out of its way to scream "look at me! I'm different!"

 

Again, IMO, you need to ease people, especially gear heads, into EVs, jarring shifts like the I3 is not the way to win friends.

 

regarding gearheads ... if you are into motorcycles ... look at Zero motorcycles and Energica motorcycles .. they are freaking cool. Similar tech to what EV cars have, yet in the 2 wheeled form. But generally i agree, from what i know most EV cars tend to be targeted to be appliances not cars