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Just came across this article. https://wccftech.com/nvidia-instructs-retailers-stop-selling-miners-sell-gamers/amp/

Basically, it seems like Nvidia is trying to prioritize gamers/pc builders over crypto miners. Thoughts or opinions on how this might turn out? Do you think retailers will adhere to Nvidia's request or keep selling to crypto miners? 

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They already made a post about this in the news section.

 

There isn't much of a way for a retailer to know what the customer is going to use it for, and it isn't really right for a company to say what you can/can't use something you bought for. However I do also see the side of miners completely destroying the GPU market, which needs to stop.

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How do they know who is a miner and who is a gamer?

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9 minutes ago, AtomicWaveBlast said:

Wait wait wait wait I can get a gtx 1080 for $549 on their site?

It's out of stock.

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This is nothing new outside of the US. In the UK a lot of retailers already limit GPU purchases not only to 2 per person, but household.

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Well, nice to hear they care.

 

That's also definitely an option, get a founder's edition card from them directly rather than trying to fight for a card or paying a high premium with retailers for one.

 

I'd prefer aftermarket though... aesthetics. Not that the founder's edition is ugly but... meh.

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1 hour ago, RyanEsau said:

Well, nice to hear they care.

 

That's also definitely an option, get a founder's edition card from them directly rather than trying to fight for a card or paying a high premium with retailers for one.

 

I'd prefer aftermarket though... aesthetics. Not that the founder's edition is ugly but... meh.

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It's not really something they can effectively do. Even if Nvidia magically doubled the amount of GPUs they could supply, it wouldn't make a huge difference to the gaming market. The only way the market will ever get fixed is if it becomes unprofitable to mine on graphic cards.

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2 hours ago, arnavvr said:

How do they know who is a miner and who is a gamer?

They dont

 

1 hour ago, Bhav said:

This is nothing new outside of the US. In the UK a lot of retailers already limit GPU purchases not only to 2 per person, but household.

For real?

its just a PR stunts nothing more.

1 hour ago, RyanEsau said:

Well, nice to hear they care.

 

That's also definitely an option, get a founder's edition card from them directly rather than trying to fight for a card or paying a high premium with retailers for one.

 

I'd prefer aftermarket though... aesthetics. Not that the founder's edition is ugly but... meh.

They dont

 

1 hour ago, Abyssal Radon said:

I like what nVidia is trying to do. This is what AMD more or less did with the bundles when they released the Vega cards. I'm not to sure how nVidia plans on accomplishing this, it will be interesting to say the least. I'm betting that nVidia is trying to do this when they release the consumer Volta cards, since the GPU market is so fucked.

 

2 minutes ago, hassam222 said:

It's not really something they can effectively do. Even if Nvidia magically doubled the amount of GPUs they could supply, it wouldn't make a huge difference to the gaming market. The only way the market will ever get fixed is if it becomes unprofitable to mine on graphic cards.

This thread is already been posted and discussed here

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/887877-nvidia-asks-retailers-to-stop-selling-gpus-to-miners/?do=getNewComment

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@Hiya! When new GPUs are released and pre ordered more than the supply, the retailers limit them to 2 per household to give everyone a chance of getting them. They can do the same if they are selling out due to miners, or any other reason, but for whatever reason this isn't an issue here and GPU stocks are abundant right now.

 

Also buying from the Nvidia or EVGA store in the UK / EU is pretty much always limited to 2 cards too.

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2 minutes ago, Bhav said:

@Hiya! When new GPUs are released and pre ordered more than the supply, the retailers limit them to 2 per household. They can do the same if they are selling out due to miners, or any other reason, but for whatever reason this isn't an issue here and GPU stocks are abundant right now.

owh i thought it was really happen.

Well for that it seems reasonable but as for those mining thingy its just stupid.

Its likely that the retailer care about it.

They need to make money so they have to sell them as fast as they can on top of that how they suppose to know if the buyer us a miner?

He could just buy 2 gpu and ask its for sli and he can brings a lot of friends too.

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1 minute ago, Hiya! said:

owh i thought it was really happen.

Well for that it seems reasonable but as for those mining thingy its just stupid.

Its likely that the retailer care about it.

They need to make money so they have to sell them as fast as they can on top of that how they suppose to know if the buyer us a miner?

He could just buy 2 gpu and ask its for sli and he can brings a lot of friends too.

That's also the thing, they can buy 2 from each store, or just buy from Amazon that doesn't put on those limits.

 

Its usually just the PC sites like Overclockers, Scan and Ebuyer that will limit GPU sales while supply isn't meeting the demand. Also nothing stopping them from going to PC world to buy more if they want.

 

But like I said, crypto mining isn't as prevalent here, or much of Europe to the point of causing GPU shortages, maybe because electricity is more expensive.

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it would be pretty easy to stop miners buying their cards. Nvidia and AMD if they don't know (and i'm sure they know) what miners don't want in a card just go to their forums and release cards with BIOS that go against their wishes. More latency for example, they hate that.

Then they could release the extra production cards gamers don't pick up and make special versions.

 

It's nice to say this as PR, but it's also BS as they do nothing to make cards less appealing to miners.

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3 hours ago, Bhav said:

This is nothing new outside of the US. In the UK a lot of retailers already limit GPU purchases not only to 2 per person, but household.

You know there way of getting around this is to have open order contracts which lets them buy in larger quantities and is nearly impossible for consumers to compete with that. So no matter what the website says it doesn't stop them from honoring their contracts since there not actually shopping from the website.

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Nobody seems to remember that nvidia sells literal crate loads of gpus to miners 

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it's probably because miners generally return the card; so it only costs them for the electricity.

 

Experienced it first hand, which is why the company I work for doesn't sell over 2 cards per person for high/mid range graphics cards.

 

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3 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Nobody seems to remember that nvidia sells literal crate loads of gpus to miners 

that's not the point. Gamers literally created the gpu market.

 

Imagine that you and you're friends go to lunch every day on the same restaurant since it opened, when no one went there, some day comes a VIP bunch loaded with money and the owner ask you to leave so he can serve them and make more money.  When the VIP's stop coming then he may loose you as a customer. People may start to eat at xbox or ps4 restaurants.

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26 minutes ago, asus killer said:

it would be pretty easy to stop miners buying their cards. Nvidia and AMD if they don't know (and i'm sure they know) what miners don't want in a card just go to their forums and release cards with BIOS that go against their wishes. More latency for example, they hate that.

Then they could release the extra production cards gamers don't pick up and make special versions.

 

It's nice to say this as PR, but it's also BS as they do nothing to make cards less appealing to miners.

It could be really easy to do since the way the card is used in way different fashion then say gamers.  So if the card is utilized for hash# it could incur a protection protocol in the bios to prevent if they really wanted too. But the truth is they don't care who is buying there gpus

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5 hours ago, Airdragonz said:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-instructs-retailers-stop-selling-miners-sell-gamers/amp/

 

7 minutes ago, asus killer said:

that's not the point. Gamers literally created the gpu market.

 

Imagine that you and you're friends go to lunch every day on the same restaurant since it opened, when no one went there, some day comes a VIP bunch loaded with money and the owner ask you to leave so he can serve them and make more money.  When the VIP's stop coming then he may loose you as a customer. People may start to eat at xbox or ps4 restaurants.

You fail to see my point.  Nvidia is currently being rather replaced, sure don't sell to the miners but well give them the majority of chips before they hit retail.

 

That's what I'm calling out.

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I hope you realize that the "Customer Limited to 2" or whatever the number is, its also a marketing gimmick. It gives a sense of limited quantity to the customer.

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