i5 7600k or 7600

[pechje;v]

so i wonder which one to buy, i will play counterstrike and h1z1 and some more games probably. Is it a big difference between them in fps games?

[CapitalistVN]

probably go with the 7600k. btw why not 8600k? huge performance boost

[Jurrunio]

why 7th gen at all?

 

depends on what mobo you have

[Klemmbrett]

23 minutes ago, pechje;v said:

so i wonder which one to buy, i will play counterstrike and h1z1 and some more games probably. Is it a big difference between them in fps games?

If you want max FPS at some point the CPU will be the limiting factor. The 7600K will give you more FPS if your card can handle it but you will need good cooling if you want a  stable OC at good temps. 

[LogicalDrm]

Not going to matter that much just between those two. Either will have possibility to upgrade to i7, but you should think again about buying old platform. Think what is highest CPU you can upgrade if needed. With that its same gen i7 as new gen needs new chipset.

[pechje;v]

37 minutes ago, Klemmbrett said:

If you want max FPS at some point the CPU will be the limiting factor. The 7600K will give you more FPS if your card can handle it but you will need good cooling if you want a  stable OC at good temps. 

is it big fps difference?

[Klemmbrett]

22 minutes ago, pechje;v said:

is it big fps difference?

If you play competitive FPS its important. But if you just play these 2 have no high refresh rate monitor you might be fine. But think about new Plattform  and maybe an i5 8400 ? or  8600k  

 

[pechje;v]

41 minutes ago, Klemmbrett said:

If you play competitive FPS its important. But if you just play these 2 have no high refresh rate monitor you might be fine. But think about new Plattform  and maybe an i5 8400 ? or  8600k  

 

okey, yea i have a 144 monitor  i've done some research and many say they have 200-300fps in cs with the i5 7600?

[Klemmbrett]

 

7 minutes ago, pechje;v said:

okey, yea i have a 144 monitor  i've done some research and many say they have 200-300fps in cs with the i5 7600?

200-300 fps in cs isnt hard but do you really play only these 2 and dont want to play some new games?  The next processor i will buy will be min 6 cores for now my i5 6600K overclocked is good enough to play everything i like but for the future 4c/4t i dont know. I think as soon as intel offers a consumer 8 core 16 thread processor im upgrading but when you consider upgrade now go for the 6 core i5 or do you already own a 270 series board ? 

[pechje;v]

7 minutes ago, Klemmbrett said:

 

200-300 fps in cs isnt hard but do you really play only these 2 and dont want to play some new games?  The next processor i will buy will be min 6 cores for now my i5 6600K overclocked is good enough to play everything i like but for the future 4c/4t i dont know. I think as soon as intel offers a consumer 8 core 16 thread processor im upgrading but when you consider upgrade now go for the 6 core i5 or do you already own a 270 series board ? 

yea ur right i will probably play other games :), i have this one MSI Z270-A Pro, Socket 1151, i just want a good budget cpu that can run with good fps

[Klemmbrett]

3 minutes ago, pechje;v said:

yea ur right i will probably play other games :), i have this one MSI Z270-A Pro, Socket 1151, i just want a good budget cpu that can run with good fps

If you already have that board why don`t get a 7700K for 100 dollar US more than the 7600K and i just chekced that 7600 non k sells for 10 dollar less than the 7600K atm so its obvious what you should do. 

[Princess Luna]

Neither get the i5 8400 obviously it is on pair with the i7 7700k for the same price, Kaby Lake is dead.

[Klemmbrett]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Neither get the i5 8400 obviously it is on pair with the i7 7700k for the same price, Kaby Lake is dead.

He already got a Z270 board and not enough money i guess to go for best ones. 

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Klemmbrett said:

He already got a Z270 board and not enough money i guess to go for best ones. 

Return it then, people who buy stuff first and THEN come to ask for advice makes me rather sick.

[pechje;v]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Return it then, people who buy stuff first and THEN come to ask for advice makes me rather sick.

my currently cpu is fkn shit  so i want to buy a good budget cpu, i dont have too much money

[pechje;v]

Just now, pechje;v said:

my currently cpu is fkn shit  so i want to buy a good budget cpu, i dont have too much money

i have played on this pc 4years so i want something new..

[Klemmbrett]

Can you afford 315 dollar for a i7 7700K ?
Or 215 for a 7600K dont save 10 dollars  to get a non K CPU. 

[pechje;v]

1 minute ago, Klemmbrett said:

Can you afford 315 dollar for a i7 7700K ?

hmm thats too much for me :/, isnt a i7 overkill for gaming? i7 is more into streaming and editing?

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, pechje;v said:

my currently cpu is fkn shit  so i want to buy a good budget cpu, i dont have too much money

Look the issue with Kaby Lake i5 is that it only features 4c/4t and this setting can only properly power up up to a GTX 1060 6gb ~ RX 580... if you put something better like a 1070 or Vega 56 you will be running into CPU bottleneck.

 

the i5 7600k is now nothing but an i3 8350k... and no a z270 is not out for 4 years already, if you bought it recently return it and get the cheapest z370 and the i5 8400 for the superior performance for the same cost.

 

If you'll insist on keeping the motherboard then get the i5 7600k if you really can't afford the i7 7700k and try to overclock it.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, pechje;v said:

hmm thats too much for me :/, isnt a i7 overkill for gaming? i7 is more into streaming and editing?

No friend this is what we're trying to explain to you, for the past 10 years we were stuck on quadcores, all kind of software is now great at using 4 cores therefore only having 4 cores is limiting, imagine your game wanting to fully use the 4 threads but then there is the system and background stuff using it too soon your CPU is pinned down on 100% usage choking.

 

This is why the configruation 4cores/4threads is now low end with Ryzen 3 and Core i3 processors featuring it and the new mainstream is 6 cores, these 2 extra cores makes a WORLD of difference, reason why the 6 cores / 6 threads i5 8400 is faster than even the 4 cores / 8 threads i7 7700k... that is why we're insisting you done really bad money management, times have changed.

[Klemmbrett]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Look the issue with Kaby Lake i5 is that it only features 4c/4t and this setting can only properly power up up to a GTX 1060 6gb ~ RX 580... if you put something better like a 1070 or Vega 56 you will be running into CPU bottleneck.

I disagree with that atm i run 1080Ti with a 6600K(that won the silicon lottery ok but still) and it bottlenecks the GPU 0 at non high refresh rates and even that is possible up to a certain point i can get for example 120-140 FPS at 1080p in PUBG with that old 4c/4t CPU and 500+ in CS. In heavy CPU intense games it might be but not experienced any hard bottle necking so far. But CPU and motherboard is my next in line for an upgrade not sure if i go for coffe lake or wait for the  next iteration.  

[pechje;v]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No friend this is what we're trying to explain to you, for the past 10 years we were stuck on quadcores, all kind of software is now great at using 4 cores therefore only having 4 cores is limiting, imagine your game wanting to fully use the 4 threads but then there is the system and background stuff using it too soon your CPU is pinned down on 100% usage choking.

 

This is why the configruation 4cores/4threads is now low end with Ryzen 3 and Core i3 processors featuring it and the new mainstream is 6 cores, these 2 extra cores makes a WORLD of difference, reason why the 6 cores / 6 threads i5 8400 is faster than even the 4 cores / 8 threads i7 7700k... that is why we're insisting you done really bad money management, times have changed.

okey  thank u