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I'm currently in the process of building my own pc and I have recently gatherd information from people on this form expressing their concerns of GPU's bottlenecking the 8700k.

 

I have a budget of around £1250-£1500 but cannot stretch over the £1500 mark. If it helps, I live in London (UK).

 

The build would be air cooled in a atx case (have not chosen a case yet). It's uses will be listed below*:).

 

*3d cad, video encoding, the entire adobe sweet, gaming*, VR, 4K-6K raw red footage ect (all of these are equally important and I would rather not sacrifice any performance)

 

*games include - Rise if the tomb raider, csgo, play unknowns battle grounds, rainbow six siege ect along with a few AAA titles.

 

I will more than likely run a 1440p or 1080p 32inch monitor for gaming along with a 4K monitor for productivity and / or another 1440p /1080p.

 

It would help if you could supply me with information on the coolers performance on a overclocked and stock 8700k. If the cooler is not great and / or you know of a better one please recommend it to me xD (would help if it had clearance for dominator platinum)

 

To clarify, dominator platinum ram is cheaper than any other kit from any other brand with the same speed and capacitys where I live. 

 

I have a few concerns I would love to share and would be more than appreciative if you could help with them! 

 

1 - Will these GPUs reach their full potential with the 8700k?

 

2 - What will my avg temp be under a heavy load?

 

3 - Any avg frames for gaming with the CPU at stock and overclocked?

 

 

This is my current spec list as of now. I am hoping the price of the CPU, motherboard and cooler will drop in 2018 to make room for a 1080ti.

 

Case - NA
 
Motherboard - Asus Maximus X hero wifi (or code upon release) - £259.98
 
CPU - i7 8700k  - £352.79 
 
CPU Cooler - CRYORIG R1 universal - £72.80
 
GPU - GTX 1070ti / 1080 / 1080ti founders edition - £419 / £519 / £679
 
RAM - Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz - £187.98
 
PSU - Corsair RM650x fully modular £85.02
 
SSD - Kingston 120gb - £36
 
HHD - WD/segate blue 1tb £38.97 
 
Thanks for the help, sorry for it being so long winded, I just want to ensure this build goes well xD.
 
 
 

 

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Thanks!,

you will be suprised to hear this but the 8700K is cheaper where I am currently xD (mind you it is only cheaper by £20)

 

Can I get the same and / or similar results from a 8700k? Or will I encounter this 'bottleneck hell' ?(as people in the forums have described it) xD 

 

Thanks for the help!

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I'm currently in the process of building my own pc and I have recently gatherd information from people on this form expressing their concerns of GPU's bottlenecking the 8700k.

 

I have a budget of around £1250-£1500 but cannot stretch over the £1500 mark. If it helps, I live in London (UK).

 

The build would be air cooled in a atx case (have not chosen a case yet). It's uses will be listed below*:).

 

*3d cad, video encoding, the entire adobe sweet, gaming*, VR, 4K-6K raw red footage ect (all of these are equally important and I would rather not sacrifice any performance)

 

*games include - Rise if the tomb raider, csgo, play unknowns battle grounds, rainbow six siege ect along with a few AAA titles.

 

I will more than likely run a 1440p or 1080p 32inch monitor for gaming along with a 4K monitor for productivity and / or another 1440p /1080p.

 

It would help if you could supply me with information on the coolers performance on a overclocked and stock 8700k. If the cooler is not great and / or you know of a better one please recommend it to me xD (would help if it had clearance for dominator platinum)

 

To clarify, dominator platinum ram is cheaper than any other kit from any other brand with the same speed and capacitys where I live. 

 

I have a few concerns I would love to share and would be more than appreciative if you could help with them! 

 

1 - Will these GPUs reach their full potential with the 8700k?

 

2 - What will my avg temp be under a heavy load?

 

3 - Any avg frames for gaming with the CPU at stock and overclocked?

 

 

This is my current spec list as of now. I am hoping the price of the CPU, motherboard and cooler will drop in 2018 to make room for a 1080ti.

 

Case - NA
 
Motherboard - Asus Maximus X hero wifi (or code upon release) - £259.98
 
CPU - i7 8700k  - £352.79 
 
CPU Cooler - CRYORIG R1 universal - £72.80
 
GPU - GTX 1070ti / 1080 / 1080ti founders edition - £419 / £519 / £679
 
RAM - Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz - £187.98
 
PSU - Corsair RM650x fully modular £85.02
 
SSD - Kingston 120gb - £36
 
HHD - WD/segate blue 1tb £38.97 
 
Thanks for the help, sorry for it being so long winded, I just want to ensure this build goes well xD.
 
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Any of these GPU's is fine with that cpu

 

Temps will also be fine, but I don't have a figure for you. Maybe like 60°C.

 

Just look at benchmarks from the cards, cpu OC won't benefit too much.

 

 

Why are you going with this cheap ass SSD though but chose a way too expensive motherboard?


The ram is also kinda slow. You sure there's no 'normal' ram at 3000 or up mhz that is cheaper?

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37 minutes ago, Alexander Underwood said:

Can I get the same and / or similar results from a 8700k? Or will I encounter this 'bottleneck hell' ?(as people in the forums have described it) xD 

The 8700k can handle any high  end GPU, you will have 0 bottlenecking issues

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53 minutes ago, Alexander Underwood said:

 

 

You'd need about 8 1080Tis before you'd really start to wonder if a very single-threaded beast of a 6-core is a bottleneck.

 

I kid, but no, no current GPU is going to be an issue with the best CPU you can buy.

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That's bullshit. The only game in which 8700k bottlenecks the GPU is City Skylines. In other cases, not even 2 1080ti in SLI would lead to CPU bottleneck.

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I'm currently in the process of building my own pc and I have recently gathered information from people on this form expressing their concerns of the 8700k bottlenecking GPUs. 

 

I have a budget of around £1250-£1500 but cannot stretch over the £1500 mark. If it helps, I live in London (UK).

 

The build would be air cooled in a atx case (have not chosen a case yet). It's uses will be listed below*:).

 

*3d cad, video encoding, the entire adobe sweet, gaming*, VR, 4K-6K raw red footage ect (all of these are equally important and I would rather not sacrifice any performance)

 

*games include - Rise if the tomb raider, csgo, play unknowns battle grounds, rainbow six siege ect along with a few AAA titles.

 

I will more than likely run a 1440p or 1080p 32inch monitor for gaming along with a 4K monitor for productivity and / or another 1440p /1080p.

 

I have a few concerns I would love to share and would be more than appreciative if you could help with them! 

 

1 - Will these GPUs reach their full potential with the 8700k?

 

2 - What will my avg temp be under a heavy load?

 

3 - Any avg frames for gaming with the CPU at stock and overclocked?

 

Just to clarify, dominator platinum is cheaper where i live than any other ram from any other company at the same speeds and capacity. 

 

This is my current spec list as of now. I am hoping the price of the CPU, motherboard and cooler will drop in 2018 to make room for a 1080ti.

 

Case - NA

 
Motherboard - Asus Maximus X hero wifi (or code upon release) - £259.98
 
CPU - i7 8700k  - £352.79 
 
CPU Cooler - CRYORIG R1 universal - £72.80
 
GPU - GTX 1070ti / 1080 / 1080ti founders edition - £419 / £519 / £679
 
RAM - Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz - £187.98
 
PSU - Corsair RM650x fully modular £85.02
 
SSD - Kingston 120gb - £36 (May change to higher quality and capacity) 
 
HHD - WD/segate blue 1tb £38.97 
 
Thanks for the help, sorry for it being so long winded, I just want to ensure this build goes well xD.
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i7 8700k won't bottleneck any modern GPU

Temps depend on your OC

Average frames for "gaming"? what? We need some games, just look up a game you want to play and the GPU you're using for a general idea

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I was informed of the 'bottneck' from this forum when i posted my original parts list incorporating a 1070ti (i had asked for people opinions ect) 

 

I wouldn't have thought the 8700k would bottleneck any of the GPUs higher than the 1070ti, thanks for clarifying this with me! xD 

 

Out of interest, would the 1080ti be bottle-necked by 1080p / 1440p ? 

 

Thanks for the help! 

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that is BS. i would get a OC 1080ti strix if i where you. it has impecable cooling and is very fast. and rgb. and has a backplate. and will sync with your motherboard.

 

a quadro would be much, more effective at rendering

 

and how the hell would 1080p or 1440P "bottleneck" a 1080 ti?!?!?!?!?!?

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the CPU temp depends on a LOT of different variables.  all the questions about the temps are ridiculous. i would get a h115i or some other water cooler though. other than that the build looks great

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29 minutes ago, Alexander Underwood said:

I'm currently in the process of building my own pc and I have recently gathered information from people on this form expressing their concerns of the 8700k bottlenecking GPUs. 

 

I have a budget of around £1250-£1500 but cannot stretch over the £1500 mark. If it helps, I live in London (UK).

 

The build would be air cooled in a atx case (have not chosen a case yet). It's uses will be listed below*:).

 

*3d cad, video encoding, the entire adobe sweet, gaming*, VR, 4K-6K raw red footage ect (all of these are equally important and I would rather not sacrifice any performance)

 

*games include - Rise if the tomb raider, csgo, play unknowns battle grounds, rainbow six siege ect along with a few AAA titles.

 

I will more than likely run a 1440p or 1080p 32inch monitor for gaming along with a 4K monitor for productivity and / or another 1440p /1080p.

 

I have a few concerns I would love to share and would be more than appreciative if you could help with them! 

 

1 - Will these GPUs reach their full potential with the 8700k?

 

2 - What will my avg temp be under a heavy load?

 

3 - Any avg frames for gaming with the CPU at stock and overclocked?

 

Just to clarify, dominator platinum is cheaper where i live than any other ram from any other company at the same speeds and capacity. 

 

This is my current spec list as of now. I am hoping the price of the CPU, motherboard and cooler will drop in 2018 to make room for a 1080ti.

 

Case - NA

 
Motherboard - Asus Maximus X hero wifi (or code upon release) - £259.98
 
CPU - i7 8700k  - £352.79 
 
CPU Cooler - CRYORIG R1 universal - £72.80
 
GPU - GTX 1070ti / 1080 / 1080ti founders edition - £419 / £519 / £679
 
RAM - Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz - £187.98
 
PSU - Corsair RM650x fully modular £85.02
 
SSD - Kingston 120gb - £36 (May change to higher quality and capacity) 
 
HHD - WD/segate blue 1tb £38.97 
 
Thanks for the help, sorry for it being so long winded, I just want to ensure this build goes well xD.

Wait for Zen+, it releases in 2 months (suppossdly) the 2800X will go up to 4.4-4.6GHz and have a 10-15% IPC Improvement. For the GPU I would get a 1080 or 1080Ti (if the budget allows it) because the 1070Ti uses regular GDDR5 instead of GDDR5X, so the 1070Ti is starved for bandwidth, also 1080 has the full GP 104. Pair that with 32GB of DDR 4 3200MHz (2x16GB) or (4x4GB).

 

Also the Founder`s Edition`s are slower, have worse thermals and cost more.

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7 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

Threads merged, making multiple threads about the same topic isn't allowed.

Ah, explains the multiple OP posts.

 

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If the i7-8700K is less expensive, I would get it as it is 100MHz faster at stock. But you will have to factor in the added cost of a cpu cooler. The k7-8700 comes with an Intel cooler that is sufficient to needs. (Although many prefer to get a better aftermarket cooler.)

 

As a general rule of thumb I suggest getting the most powerful gpu one can afford. Presuming the rest of the system is not shorted in doing so. Even if the gpu is far more powerful than needed today, it just means that in a couple of years it will still provide excellent performance in newer titles.

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