Posted December 6, 2013 This is a personal opinion I'd like to share. For me it seems most modern games graphics are trying to be too fancy. The result is that the visual becomes too unreal. For instance, Crysis 3 which although is incredibly advanced with all the particles and stuff it looks really fake. The game looks good definitely, awesome even but they look fake. Too plasticy. Battlefield 4 visuals for me suffers the same problem. Although it looks very advanced and great something is just so off it doesn't look real at all. Unreal Engine is also a great example. Actually any game I can think of powered by Unreal Engine looks more unreal than any other game powered by frosbite or cryengine. But the engine IS called "unreal" engine so I guess it does make sense... The game I actually HAVE seen trying to look real is the original Crysis. Personally I think in certain scenarios vanilla Crysis 1 looks more real than Crysis 3. And with all the great mods there is for it it's unbelievable how a modded 2007 game looks so much more realistic than a triple A 2013 title. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7-hTVP9AE The only recent game I can think of that actually tries to look real is Metal Gear Solid 5 powered by fox engine. Sadly that's exclusive to consoles so their hardware is holding it's visuals back. What do you guys think? Do you think the direction game visuals is heading toward is fine? Or do you prefer it to head toward trying to replicate real life rather than being too fancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 This is a personal opinion I'd like to share. For me it seems most modern games graphics are trying to be too fancy. The result is that the visual becomes too unreal. For instance, Crysis 3 which although is incredibly advanced with all the particles and stuff it looks really fake. The game looks good definitely, awesome even but they look fake. Too plasticy. Battlefield 4 visuals for me suffers the same problem. Although it looks very advanced and great something is just so off it doesn't look real at all. Unreal Engine is also a great example. Actually any game I can think of powered by Unreal Engine looks more unreal than any other game powered by frosbite or cryengine. But the engine IS called "unreal" engine so I guess it does make sense... The game I actually HAVE seen trying to look real is the original Crysis. Personally I think in certain scenarios vanilla Crysis 1 looks more real than Crysis 3. And with all the great mods there is for it it's unbelievable how a modded 2007 game looks so much more realistic than a triple A 2013 title. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7-hTVP9AE The only recent game I can think of that actually tries to look real is Metal Gear Solid 5 powered by fox engine. Sadly that's exclusive to consoles so their hardware is holding it's visuals back. What do you guys think? Do you think the direction game visuals is heading toward is fine? Or do you prefer it to head toward trying to replicate real life rather than being too fancy? I think I prefer anime styled games anyway. Also cartoon styled games rock. I'm not a major fan of games that try to look real, though I do play some like BF for the gameplay. (crysis sucks ass though, can't keep me entertained.) Spoiler CPU: R5 1600 @ 4.2 GHz; GPU: Asus STRIX & Gigabyte g1 GTX 1070 SLI; RAM: 16 GB Corsair vengeance 3200 MHz ; Mobo: Asrock Taichi x470; SSD: 512 gb Samsung 950 Pro Storage: 5x Seagate 2TB drives; 1x 2TB WD PurplePSU: 700 Watt Huntkey; Peripherals: Acer S277HK 4K Monitor; Logitech G502 gaming mouse; Corsair K95 Mechanical keyboard; 5.1 Logitech x530 sound system 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110000 01110010 01101111 00101110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 yea i thjink we are in the age of gaming where shiny and bright objects are considered more realistic. and some cases its true but alot of the times its just over saturation and rarely appealing to the eye (at least for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 Have you played Metro: Last Light? That game at max settings on a 1440 display looks extremely real TorCorsair Obsidian 650D - Intel 4770K CPU - Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 - ASUS GTX 780 Direct CU 2 - Kingston Beast Hyperx Beast 16 GB RAM - Corsair AX 1200i PSU - Samsung EVO drive 750 GB - Corsair AF series 120mm fans - Corsair H100i - Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 edition - Razer Ouroboros - Razer Manticor - Windows 7 - Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 I know what you mean, I think realistic graphics only look best on sports titles and racing games. One of my fav franchises is the Zelda series and honestly, I'd much rather see more games like this and even more JRPGs vs another semi-realistic shooter. If I wanted realistic HD graphics, I'd go outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 I do agree to cryengine and frosbite but I dont agree to unreal engine Metro last light on ultra 1440p just looks as realistic as it can get with games these a day. BTW I dont mind the way its heading I like how BF4 and Crysis 3 look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 I think that if they changed their color palate to match what real life is like, people wouldn't like the games because they're monotone or colors slur together. I don't like the way they're going with graphics but trying to have it match real life isn't the solution either. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 I know what you mean, I think realistic graphics only look best on sports titles and racing games. One of my fav franchises is the Zelda series and honestly, I'd much rather see more games like this and even more JRPGs vs another semi-realistic shooter. If I wanted realistic HD graphics, I'd go outside. +1 Spoiler CPU: R5 1600 @ 4.2 GHz; GPU: Asus STRIX & Gigabyte g1 GTX 1070 SLI; RAM: 16 GB Corsair vengeance 3200 MHz ; Mobo: Asrock Taichi x470; SSD: 512 gb Samsung 950 Pro Storage: 5x Seagate 2TB drives; 1x 2TB WD PurplePSU: 700 Watt Huntkey; Peripherals: Acer S277HK 4K Monitor; Logitech G502 gaming mouse; Corsair K95 Mechanical keyboard; 5.1 Logitech x530 sound system 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110000 01110010 01101111 00101110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 Have you played Metro: Last Light? That game at max settings on a 1440 display looks extremely real Especially those stripper scenes CPU:Intel Core i7-3770k@4.5Ghz |GPU: EVGA GTX 670 FTW B) Signature 2 |Motherboard: MSI Mpower Z77 Big Bang |RAM: 16GB G.skill Ripjaws X @ 1600 MHz |HDD: WD 2TB|Case: Corsair Obsidian 800D | PSU: Corsair TX850|Mouse: Logitech G400 + Steelseries Qck Heavy |Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow |Monitor: X-Star DP2710 1440p :rolleyes: || Headies: CM Storm Sirus S 5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 Computer games are another method of telling a story, i think computer games need to go back to their roots rather than just looking flashy Character artist in the Games industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 Especially those stripper scenes Is there anything else in the game? Oh and another thing: The Witcher 2 still looks extremely good Especially the cutscene when you go to meet the king in the morning The Witcher 3 will then be even better TorCorsair Obsidian 650D - Intel 4770K CPU - Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 - ASUS GTX 780 Direct CU 2 - Kingston Beast Hyperx Beast 16 GB RAM - Corsair AX 1200i PSU - Samsung EVO drive 750 GB - Corsair AF series 120mm fans - Corsair H100i - Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 edition - Razer Ouroboros - Razer Manticor - Windows 7 - Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 6, 2013 Coming from console gaming on ps3 and 360, im loving the way visuals are looking. Have you played bf4 side by side ps3 and on pc on highest settings? Played the beta on both side by side seeing the ps3 version a almost threw up lol. Assassins creed 4 also looks amazing. I played the previous AC games all on my 360 and what a difference AC4 looks maxed out on my rig. The way the rain affects in game I thought water was about to leak through my TV Steam and origins ID: Erebus305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 7, 2013 If I wanted realistic HD graphics, I'd go outside.How irrelevant. I personally don't enjoy 9-string guitars, but that doesn't change the fact that they look awesome as hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 7, 2013 No. Crysis 3 looks better than real life. Much beautiful. Need For Speed : Most Wanted looks better than real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 7, 2013 For me, the problem isn't that these games are going to far with graphics and making things look too real but they are kissing something's that we have in real life. Like on my PC, skyrim with about 100 mods that enhance the graphics of the game makes it look great but with a couple of mods that make things like grass and hair move and interact with the world around them I feel way more immersed in the game and I overall have a better experience. But after I got a better graphics card for my PC and I could run skyrim with both sets of mods it looks better then either one separately. So I think that making the graphics better by using bigger textures and more detailed worlds is great but developers should also focus on the physical properties abd interactions of everything in the worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 I kinda liked the way thing looked like before, I very rarely like new graphics I do think they look too plasticy, but I guess there's nothing you can do MSI Z87-GD65 - GTX 760 DirectCU II - i5 4670k @4.0GHz - 16GB Corsair Vengeance @1866 MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 I kinda liked the way thing looked like before, I very rarely like new graphics I do think they look too plasticy, but I guess there's nothing you can do when was before? graphics have gone up quite a few generations now. Spoiler CPU: R5 1600 @ 4.2 GHz; GPU: Asus STRIX & Gigabyte g1 GTX 1070 SLI; RAM: 16 GB Corsair vengeance 3200 MHz ; Mobo: Asrock Taichi x470; SSD: 512 gb Samsung 950 Pro Storage: 5x Seagate 2TB drives; 1x 2TB WD PurplePSU: 700 Watt Huntkey; Peripherals: Acer S277HK 4K Monitor; Logitech G502 gaming mouse; Corsair K95 Mechanical keyboard; 5.1 Logitech x530 sound system 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110000 01110010 01101111 00101110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 This is a personal opinion I'd like to share. For me it seems most modern games graphics are trying to be too fancy. The result is that the visual becomes too unreal. For instance, Crysis 3 which although is incredibly advanced with all the particles and stuff it looks really fake. The game looks good definitely, awesome even but they look fake. Too plasticy. Battlefield 4 visuals for me suffers the same problem. Although it looks very advanced and great something is just so off it doesn't look real at all. Unreal Engine is also a great example. Actually any game I can think of powered by Unreal Engine looks more unreal than any other game powered by frosbite or cryengine. But the engine IS called "unreal" engine so I guess it does make sense... The game I actually HAVE seen trying to look real is the original Crysis. Personally I think in certain scenarios vanilla Crysis 1 looks more real than Crysis 3. And with all the great mods there is for it it's unbelievable how a modded 2007 game looks so much more realistic than a triple A 2013 title. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7-hTVP9AE The only recent game I can think of that actually tries to look real is Metal Gear Solid 5 powered by fox engine. Sadly that's exclusive to consoles so their hardware is holding it's visuals back. What do you guys think? Do you think the direction game visuals is heading toward is fine? Or do you prefer it to head toward trying to replicate real life rather than being too fancy? It's a simple reason Crytek explains that often in Interviews. Reality looks boring! As long as we don't have Ray/Path Tracing they will try to go for a more CGI Animated style, because it will give the best looking result. And even then we will still be full of color filters and lens flares. RTX2070OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 I think we should stop worrying about graphics and and put more time into the game worlds, one of the most annoying things to me in GTA V or any GTA for the matter is 95% of all the stores/house/buildings are "closed" off because the interiors were never made Case: NZXT Phantom PSU: EVGA G2 650w Motherboard: Asus Z97-Pro (Wifi-AC) CPU: 4690K @4.2ghz/1.2V Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Ram: Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB 1866mhz GPU: Gigabyte G1 GTX970 Storage: (2x) WD Caviar Blue 1TB, Crucial MX100 256GB SSD, Samsung 840 SSD Wifi: TP Link WDN4800 Donkeys are love, Donkeys are life. "No answer means no problem!" - Luke 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 -snip- Check out Arma 3. http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?132745-Is-Arma-3-authentic You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.Users cannot, and will not securely manage key material. Most users can't and the ones that can, wont. Ask me about Bitcoin, Litecoin, Crypto-Currencies, and/or Mining them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 I do agree to cryengine and frosbite but I dont agree to unreal engine Metro last light on ultra 1440p just looks as realistic as it can get with games these a day. Metro LL doesn't use Unreal engine.It uses their own engine, 4A. Back to topic,I prefer more "unreal",fantasy-like games.A recent triple A title that looks like that is Bioshock Infinite.It looks so awesome because it doesn't look like reality,and I love it.However, the story is amazing too,and that's what matters.After you finish a game you're left with the story and some gameplay impressions. I think games should split up in two different genres : gameplay and story. "Gameplay" games should be just like current games : games made for you to have fun. "Story" games would be more like interactive movies.It would be the easiest way to live in a presented world.Books are too hard to understand for some people(you only have the ideea,no visuals,no sound,etc), most movies are just too average now, and these games would give you the oportunity to choose what you want to do. This is what I think. i5 4670k @ 4.2GHz (Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo); ASrock Z87 EXTREME4; 8GB Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3 RAM @ 2133MHz; Asus DirectCU GTX 560; Super Flower Golden King 550 Platinum PSU;1TB Seagate Barracuda;Corsair 200r case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 Skyrim+Mods Stalker series <p>Eryi's Action Rule#2 - "Dont jump on the green mushroom" Ministry of StopIt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 when was before? graphics have gone up quite a few generations now. I would say everything up until around 2010, after that there's really few art styles I liked from games, I think they make it too shinny and it gets to a point where it looks unreal, there are some games that I think look quite nice tho, I'm not saying I don't like them I just think they're going in the wrong direction, because they try to make all the models and animations so real, that when the art is unreal, it just doesn't fit in. MSI Z87-GD65 - GTX 760 DirectCU II - i5 4670k @4.0GHz - 16GB Corsair Vengeance @1866 MHz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 9, 2013 some time ago i saw the faceworks demo from nvidia, in which they were all happy about simulating so good the human face and expressions... is it just me, or they fell right in the deepest, darkest, undisclosed zone of the uncanny valley? that can't be the future http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvaGd4KqlvQ anyway, i think that reality simulation is cool and i like to see what an amazing job hw/sw can do nowadays, but that's not what makes a game's visual experience memorable the ones who make you sit back and say "woah" are not the programmers throwing in more polygons and better shaders, but the level designers, putting beauty inside of games edit: yep i don't know how to embed a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 10, 2013 An issue with games and in game graphics is something called: "The Uncanny Valley" Graphics are Outstanding but developers dont want to go any higher because of it... If they push too hard they could fall in to the "Valley" and the game would feel creepy and wont sell. If they push to little the game feels childish and comes across more like "Southpark"of "Family guy" Polly did an interesting article on it all a few months back: http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/4/4695108/video-games-flattening-the-uncanny-valley a small explanation aswell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVIkLuuW7zw#t=23 Character artist in the Games industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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